May the Lord judge between me and you Jeremy and deal with you Himself if what you say about me is not true.

I leave you in God's hands.

Carlos

Indeed a spirit is speaking through you, but Carlos, how can you possibly think that the saints of God are going to believe that it is the Spirit of the meek and lowly Lamb of God whom we follow, and whose voice we know, how can we possibly turn from the voice of the Holy One who has our best interests at heart, and longs to fellowship with us and He in us with each other in love and humility? Can you not see that we just want to keep our lamps trimmed and our virgin hearts prepared for the Bridegroom? How can we possibly do that if we listen to the voice of satan, man, self or the world? We want the Lord Jesus whom we adore. I'm never afraid of the imposter, he is always easily discernable, I am always slow to speak, and quick to listen, because what I am afraid of is the imposter in me. And you should be, too.

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R. Evan Gombach

Hi Carlos,

I read your other post... I had to log in just to comment.

I'm not sure i got what it was that you are asking for here,, but the experience you shared there is very touching.

It's wonderful how the Holy Spirit works in us, so I'd just like to encourage you to keep keeping your eyes focused on Jesus through it all.

This is a wonderful site as far as have experienced here so far, with the audio sermons especially. But as everything else with human involvement, we can't expect perfection from it. Even the term perfection it's self is flawed in common definition.

Being new myself I read alot of discussions and almost always have a comment or two that i sometimes first compose, edit several times and eventually end up canceling. Sometimes it's because I consider the yellow highlight above the submit button and I find my post (or myself) lacking in enough insight to serve and edify others, as many here seem so much more mature.

I then resort to listening to the wonderful collection of audio sermons that challenge me so much in my day to day walk with Christ. Some I even play on repeat:-)

My point is, you're not alone in not having your expectations met, but if you take a closer and deeper look... There is so much more that you can take away from here so I hope you don't deprive your spirit just because of offense from people with their own experiences and journeys.

I'm not saying that you should shy away from posting as I sometimes do, just that there's so much more to this site than the forums that you might find very edifying especially in your current circumstances.

You are still breathing, still searching for God and still blessed with internet access so hold on to Jesus for dear life and see how he will transform you.

PS: I know a bit about difficult times from my childhood so this is the best time to rejoice in Christ because he's all you've Got right now, and what a joy. Resist dampening that peace from the Lord you experienced, with nostalgia, remorse and all that is self. Right now, acknowledge that you knkw, nothing. Nothing except that It is finished.

You'll be in my prayers tonight.

Showers of Love fron Namibia,
Etuna:-)

I just checked in to see if there were any posts that I needed to respond to and found some more comments on this thread.

I have only one question for those of you who are inclined to continue beating up on me spiritually so to speak.

Where is the sin?

In my life?

That warrants your words to me?

One person said I that I do not have a teachable spirit. Could be. I don't feel convicted of that but it still could be and I could just be deceived.

So regarding a lack of teachable spirit...teach me. Show me what it is that I said or what I have done, spell it out, that shows a lack of teachable spirit. If you do and it is true I will be the first to confess my fault before you all.

Several of you are all up in arms about my saying that I am a prophet or gifted to be a prophet. Do you even know why I said that?

Was it a sin for me to say that?

I said that to make the point that prophets speak. That is what they do. They open their hearts to express God's heart into a situation or to highlight God's ideals.

I did that in so far as I knew how to by starting threads here and otherwise speaking what the Lord impressed my heart to say.

Was that a sin?

How?

Show me my sin? Make it plain. Don't just accuse me of this or that. That's Satan's way.

Lay it out for me. Teach me. Show it to me from the Word.

Help me see my sin...if indeed there really is any.

All I have heard to now is just accusation after accusation and condemnation of my person or what I have done here trying to share God's heart.

Where is the sin?

If there is no sin then why are some of you making me out to be in sin?

Carlos

Greetings Carlos

I just wanted to respond in love to your last post while referencing this first one. I don't know about others, why they felt led to respond to you as they did but I can share with you about how I felt after reading this fist post at the beginning of this thread :)

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You wrote:But it is a bit disappointing too in that I so want to discuss things in depth until the Lord leads us to some steps of conviction together or things that we can apply in what we are discussing.
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My response: It can sometimes be disappointing to share what the LORD puts on your heart only to have others not see the same things you are seeing. I have over the years learned to just post as the LORD leads me and leave the rest to HIM. Honestly even if only three people read my post then they were the only ones GOD wanted to have read it and that is great right? Try not to get discourage or disappointed but continue to share in love and leave the rest to GOD.
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You wrote:But what happens here is that people will come into a thread that I begin, say something...usually very insightful and wonderful, perhaps over several posts (allelujah!) and then when I get all excited and start sharing more...they seem to disappear and I start talking to myself.

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my response: topics move pretty fast around here sometimes. I myself have read a thread and there are times I feel no leading from the HOLY SPIRIT to respond then there are other times when I will be compelled to drop everything and post...I think what will help you as you share here is to learn that just as GOD is giving you leading to share HE is also working in the lives of others here in leading their actions also. Again do not get discourage trust in the LORD that each topic or thread will go exactly as HE has planned for it to, but remember that may not be the vision you had for it. Share the things the LORD gives you and then rest in HIM.

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you wrote:There are two threads where this is happening now.

I am just wondering, for those of you that have been in the threads I began, is it me somehow?

If not is there some way to encourage more in depth discussion?

Is the internet not conducive to that type of discussion?

I just don't know.

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my response: Perhaps you are attempting to force the discussion to go further then the LORD is leading others in at that moment.(I am not saying that you are doing this just giving you something to consider) I have seen threads drop off topic only to come back months later as the LORD opens the door to others to read and grow. Don't get discouraged and don't try to force deeper discussions if they don't happen. Share as you are lead and then trust in HIM :)

Also you might find it beneficial to visit other threads started by other members.Pray on those topics as well see what the LORD leads you to share. Often I have found that some of the deeper discussions and threads that have caused me the most growth were not even started by me. Be ready and willing to learn we are all here to do the same things you are share what GOD gives us with one another, grow in HIM and further the KINGDOM of CHRIST!!

I realize I repeated myself a few times but I just really wanted to drive the point home that things happen when we leave them to GOD and don't try to be in control. :)

God Bless
maryjane

Edit: Carlos I did struggle at one time with feeling discouraged but remember GOD is in control. Trust HIM to let the discussion flow as HE leads. That is what really helped me :)

Hi Mary Jane,

Wonderful points made by you. And yes...I do have a tendency to grow discouraged when no one changes their mind on things I might post about or where a thread doesn't seem to go anywhere with respect to having us all, including me, come to a place of learning something from whatever discussion is occurring to apply.

I eagerly read all posts made on any thread I participate in and pick up things from this or that person, and often say so, so this is not all about me and what I post.

But I do tend to share more often about what God has laid on my heart to share as that tends to excite me. I make no apology for that unless someone can show me where that is sin.

But let's not kid ourselves Mary Jane. While your points are well taken by me and are things I need to keep in mind and will (by God's grace) there is no sin (unless it is the tendency to get discouraged) in what you responded to.

The question I asked about was respecting accusations of my being unteachable, a prophet wanna be, having ulterior motives than just sharing what God lays on my heart, wanting to promote self, not being a Christian and so on and so forth.

I am still waiting for those of you who have accused me of such to lay out where the sin is? Where the substance of your accusations can be supported by anything I have said and done here.

If you cannot show me my sin and if there is no sin then may I say that you are walking in unrighteousness to so accuse me and insinuate evil about me.

I especially would like to hear from the person who accused me of being unteachable given that I am sitting here waiting with all ears to be taught about my sin and sincerely so. If there is wrong in me I want to know it and confess it before God and you all.

God gives grace to the humble and opposes the proud. I do not wish to be opposed by God but rather to place myself under His continuing grace.

So I will admit whatever sin there is in my life or heart if those of you who have accused me will do the honorable and godly thing and help me see it.

Carlos

I appreciate the input Approved (don't know what else to call you) and will check out the place you mentioned but may I ask...

With all due respect when have I EVER said that I want to be the teacher in an in-depth discussion??

What leads you to believe that I am this big, teacher person who is overinflated with a sense of his own importance and ability to teach others the truths of God?

Others have accused me of such but that is simply not true.

I want an in depth discussion so that I might carefully check what I believe the Lord has given me understanding of through others in the Body. For my own protection and that of others I might pass those things along to. I can think of few better ways to check on what I want to share from God than to have others on Christian forums give me their input that may reveal a less than perfect understanding on my part.

That is the primary purpose for which I want in depth discussion.

Secondary to that I want to pass along what the Lord has shared with me about a topic in the event that it is indeed right on. For the benefit of others in the Body.

Is either of those motives sinful in some way?

Is either of those motives indicative of a lack of submission (something I have also been accused of here for who knows why)?

Carlos