I know you deleted your post, but I have kept it open in a word document working on it while working, sleeping and cooking!! I hope you do not mind me replying to it now.I agree thoroughly that suicide is a lack of faith in God but instead of hyper-focusing on a persons lack of faith and condemning them to hell for it; wouldnt it far better to ask what war is (or was) going on in that persons life that so over took their mind? Because honestly I do not believe that someone who takes their own life CAN BE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND. (Im not yelling, just providing an exclamation for that point!)I have counseled with those contemplating suicide. Number one, I was honest with them that had I gone through with my own plans, I did not know where I would have gone eternally. I didnt tell them this but to be quite honest, rdg, I was hurting so bad I didnt care where I would go, so I can say that sadly, THAT is not what kept me from taking my life.There were a few reasons but the main one was a vision that Christ gave me one night of where I was in the scheme of this world and how in my minds eye, I couldnt see around the corner but He was in a jumbo jet and could see to the end of my life; and He showed me that it was all going to be ok.I will be honest with you, I am not stuck in the mud on this, if my Jesus shows me that I am wrong on this, I will change what I believe and shout it from the rooftops!Until then, God bless you,Lisa ------i actually deleted the post because i realized i should not have come into this thread, but you saw it and were working on a reply before I could edit so its my own fault. lesson learned for me to be way more mindful and in prayer before i post. i don't have any other thoughts on this matter so i will just leave it there.God bless you as wellrdg