Bless you Linda7 for that post.

Edit to include.
(not sure whether I should post the below, but this song has been running through my head for the last few hours and maybe I'm suppose to post this. Just hope that it will bless and help).

In His Time (He makes all things beautiful), by Maranatha Music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjab00qQG3k

In His time,
In His time,
He makes all things beautiful, in His time.

Lord please show me everyday,
As Youre teaching me Your way,
That You do just what You say,
In Your time.

In Your time,
In Your time,
You make all things beautiful, in Your time.

Lord my life to You I bring,
May each song I have to sing,
Be to You a lovely thing,
In Your Time

BIBLE VERSE DERIVED FROM:
"He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men," Ecclesiastes 3:11.

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geraldine

John, you have shown in your last post that you do have some discernment. That is good. I also like the addition of punctuation, as Brothertom said. Very refreshing. : )

Linda gave some good advice in her post and i would follow her lead and leave behind the Pentacostal traditions and just focus entirely on CHRIST. I also want to point out the following:

QUOTE: "i sought for help a whole week and nothing got better then when i stopped trusting everything else and began just trusting God i was delivered and then it started to come back a few hours later..."==BIBLE4LIFE


John, there is a contradiction here (please someone correct me if i am wrong in this); you say you were "delivered" yet it came back a few hours later. Well, that is not deliverance then. Does God give only halfhearted deliverances? Anyone have anything to add on this? Does God only deliver halfway or only 8%? I know that David was often delivered out of the clutches of Saul only to have to flee again another day, but still, he had more than a "few hours" of deliverance each time.

The Word talks of Jesus being tempted in the wilderness and after the final rebuke of the devil by the Lord he left him "until a more opportune time" or another day. The Lord was not possessed, however. He was simply being tempted and/or harrassed. So John i think this is what you may be experiencing. Oppression. Have you tried the suggestions i gave of:

1. Praising the LORD JESUS CHRIST, OUT LOUD, every single time a thought or event arises?

2. Playing and listening to praise music daily/often or even all day playing it softly in the background??

Hey brother i think what God did was show me through delivering me for the short period of time was to let me know what was going on and possibly so i could take up my defense against the devil, which when they tried to come back into my mind i resisted them, and actually what helped me resist them was remembering how Christ had all authority over the demons and that they obeyed him, that really helped me resist them, within a week the attacks basically stopped, here and their the devil would try again to come back, but i knew it was him. Before, i thought i really was losing my memory. I remember i had to call off two days of work because of the attacks on my mind. I barely could remember anything, but God came to my rescue. Most would have thought it was physical, but it wasn't. But, to your questions, no i have not praise God when a thought or event arises. I have a hard time praising God when my heart isn't meaning it. I mean not to say i haven't praise God when i have prayed at times or occasionally over the past year, but i have not used that technique since you wrote it. Their was one time while at work months ago, sometime last year that i was getting attacked extremely bad that i began to sing a praise hymn in tears and i did feel a peace come upon me for like ten minutes or so. Your second question, I actually a few mornings and nights have put on some worship music to go to bed to and also a deliverance prayer cd. This morning i tried to go to sleep listening to a sermon to.

Delete. Posted twice in error.

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Linda

TO Learn,

In His time,
In His time,
He makes all things beautiful, in His time.

Lord please show me everyday,
As Youre teaching me Your way,
That You do just what You say,
In Your time.

In Your time,
In Your time,
You make all things beautiful, in Your time.

Lord my life to You I bring,
May each song I have to sing,
Be to You a lovely thing,
In Your Time
Based on Ecclesiastes 3:11.

This is most lovely, a place in God where complete trust has come about in the believer.

Words of Jesus who has come to comfort all that mourn;

"To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness, that they might be called trees of righteousness,the planting of the LORD, that He might be glorified." Isa 61:3

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." Jer. 29:11

May God's will be done in you Bible4life. All of this is a prayer for you.

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Linda

I wanted to tell you guys something that happened today. As you all know i have been trying to figure out what was wrong with me exactly and over the past week i have had a few weird experiences that i am not sure what to think of.
My friend was talking to me on the phone last week and he had something about leaving our parents when you get married, and as you know i am still living with my parents. Well after he got off the phone with me i asked God if the problem was that i was staying with my parents and that he wanted me to leave and it was as soon as i said that i got strong out of nowhere physically, a little later that strength left me. So i really didnt think anything of it.
Then i was on the phone with a deliverance minister last friday and he was rebuking the demons bothering me and afterwards he asked me what my relationship with my parents was and i get really strange feeling and it was really strange like he had hit it right on the head. He also had said that their might be some generational curse. But, i prayed about it and nothing came of it.
Then today i started feeling a little better late tonight and my wife and i were talking about my problem and about me going to the doctor. She also was talking about how she missed the old me and everything. I was walking around the room and i felt something almost try to twist my head or my neck area and i just began to say what is the problem to God? what is causing this? My wife and i started of crying and i bowed my knee and prayed holding her hand while we cried together. We finished praying and she told me she felt a really good feeling. I went outside and i came back in and she told me she prayed to God that he would set me free and that if he wanted us to move out of my parents house that he would show her a sign by their being an m80 go off within ten minutes. And she told me that one went off and she felt these chills going down her body and she told me she had only felt that one time in her life and it was 5 years ago while in my old townhome she asked Jesus to save her and the same feeling she got then.

I am not trying to be superstitious, but just wanted to tell you what was going on in my life and was wondering maybe God is telling me i need to move out of my parents house.

Hey John, glad to hear that you're feeling a little bit better.

Two things really quick though.

One:

i appreciate your wisdom that this might not be a sign. I wanted to point out the deliver minister did tell me that Christ's blood cleanses us from all our sin. But, i don't understand how it seems you guys dont seem to understand that i been having something actually hit me in my neck area and back area and it usually happens when i start resisting them. I remember one time when i started resisting them and i began to start feeling better and then something i felt push my head forward and tonight i felt something almost try to twist neck or something while i was walking around. I am not talking about just having a back problem or problem with my thoughts, i am actually talking about something afflicting me from the outside and i am actually feeling it happen. Something is dead set on hurting me.

Edit: I updated my post below and included a bit more info.

hey brother i am sorry for my tone earlier. I just wanted to say that their very well could be a problem mentally where i need to go see a doctor, but i was just pointing out the fact i have been feeling oppression on the outside with things hitting my neck and back area at times. Also my wife five years did asked to be saved, but really didnt see anything different since then that made me to believe she was, so i have always held that she wasnt, so tonight when she told me these things it was unsual. But, anyways guys i dont want to continue on with this much longer, i can only just seek the Lord and hope he delivers me. I would have to agree that the same seemed to happen with me is that i seemed to get oppressed when i began to fall into sin. I will listen to that sermon.