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| i am possible = quantum = illuminati | | Recently, i watched a christian channels, and there's a teacher... well he claimed to be a very christian teacher, he said that every person can be as success as he is, by saying I am possible. You just need to imagine things u want constantly, and those things will be given to you. He also quoting verses in the bible, but at the end.. God has opened my eyes that this teaching was just a renaming of quantum, illuminati, and new age. I wonder how many ppl in this website, are realizing this..
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| 2012/4/29 10:34 | Profile |
| Re: i am possible = quantum = illuminati | | Quote:
God has opened my eyes that this teaching was just a renaming of quantum, illuminati, and new age. I wonder how many ppl in this website, are realizing this.
Just about everybody!
Though not necessarily in the precise terms you have stated.
Any teaching which begins and ends with the word's "i am" as a necessary objective is best tested against the words spoken to Moses on the mount.
"But Moses said to God, Who am I, that I should go to Pharaoh, and that I should bring the sons of Israel out of Egypt? 12 And He said, Certainly I will be with you, and this shall be the sign to you that it is I who have sent you: when you have brought the people out of Egypt, you shall worship God at this mountain. 13 Then Moses said to God, Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, The God of your fathers has sent me to you. Now they may say to me, What is His name? What shall I say to them? 14 God said to Moses, I AM WHO I AM; and He said, Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I AM has sent me to you". Exodus 3: 11-14
Only God is "I Am".
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| 2012/4/29 11:10 | |
| Re: i am possible = quantum = illuminati | | "You just need to imagine things u want constantly, and those things will be given to you." petrajordan
There is a very, very large Korean ministry that is founded on these exact same principles. It is called "guided Imagery/visualization faith", and it's roots are grounded deep in mystical Babylonian witchcraft. In this ancient Meditative Practice people actually visualize an object of their desire; like money,or success, or things like a bicycle. They "see" themselves owning it, and, for many, it works. It does come to pass.
These things also are manifested in the spiritual realm. "See yourself with Jesus!"....and you do. These are counterfeit Revelation; bearing a look of Godliness, but possessing a substance of the devil. This is the nature of deception.
I think of the recent book; "THE SHACK"; in which the entire enterprise is visualized, and spiritual ideas are impressed upon the Naive as Godly. I think of Lakeland and Todd Bentley and his many trips to the Heavenly city with long talks with the Patriarchs, and even Jesus. These were born out of this same process; VISUALIZATION AND GUIDED IMAGERY; and it is deeply tied in to "Contemplative, or Meditative prayer.
It is also related, in a back door kind of way, to WORD OF FAITH [WOF] theology; "name it and claim it" theology. By you speaking it as your own, you then possess it; whether it be material, [ Lord, won't you give me a Mercedes Benz !...."let us visualize it!"], to all manner of blessings and health "promises".
Jesus is alive now, and sits at the right Hand of the Father; EVER ALIVE to intercede to the Father. To Him, outwardly and directly do we [Christians] pray, and it is clear that those things that are of lust and presumption are not granted by God. We do not own God; We submit our petitions to a loving Father, and with Him, a "YES' is as good as a "NO".
There is no manipulation our pulling on our part. Our submitted petitions are in His hand, to do as He sees fit, and He is worthy to be worshipped, whether He grants them, or does not. |
| 2012/4/29 12:22 | | sermonindex Moderator

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Online! | Re: | | Most of these false teachers and teachings are thriving not because of an illumanti system which we do not condone conversations about on the forums here because of the unfruitfulness of such talk. But these false teachers are thriving because of Christians not living as they should in Christ Jesus and especially not reading and knowing the word of God and practicing it.
If all the Christians just simply cursed the darkness and spoke against all that was wrong in it then we would be not only fixated on the darkness but just glorifying it also. I attribute this to the great rise in these type of teachers and teachings is the spirit-filled segment of the church is actually helping popularize them. We should simply in most cases ignore such things, warn the saints briefly and move onto the true work of the Gospel.
We should not even be surprised that in the end times many will come and say: At that time if anyone says to you, Look, here is the Christ! or, There he is! do not believe it." (Matthew 24:23) or even rather "I AM He" but do not believe it.
May God personally keep us promoting Jesus Christ and never even spending time watching these false teachers.
_________________ SI Moderator - Greg Gordon
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