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neemia
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 Children who die in infancy?

What happens to children who die at birth or while they are very young in unchristian families? Where will they spend eternity?


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Vlad Stepanov

 2011/11/15 10:33Profile
Lysa
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 Re: Children who die in infancy?


They are not accountable at all. They will spend eternity with God.

God bless,
Lisa


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Lisa

 2011/11/15 10:46Profile









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I agree with Lysa... I would not venture to guess when a child is old enough to be accountable before God. Thats up to God, but infant or toddler obviously are not aware.

They sin! For we are all born in sin and in a fallen condition. Even an infant is a sinner. Thats our natural state. But I believe there is a certain stage at which they do become accountable.

God has revealed Himself to all men thru nature, etc so that none are without excuse. But obviously an infant is not capable of seeing that.

This is one of those things better left to God since the Bible does not specifically address it. No one here can answer this question pertaining to the age of accountability with certainity.

Krispy

 2011/11/15 11:25
ginnyrose
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"This is one of those things better left to God since the Bible does not specifically address it. No one here can answer this question pertaining to the age of accountability with certainty."

AMEN!

We cannot do anything to change its outcome, either. The Catholic church addressed this issue by stipulating that infants get baptized. We know baptism does not save - it is an act of obedience to the LORD that one submits to it. Babies do not have that ability. All they can do is cry, eat, sleep and soil their diaper!


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Sandra Miller

 2011/11/15 11:42Profile









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We are close friends with a Catholic family... I call them "super-Catholics". They are extremely devout.

One time when their 5th child was just a week or so old she stopped breathing. Paramedics were called, and long story short everything was ok and she is 8 years old now. We were there when this happened...

Obviously as parents if freaked them out naturally, but it also scared the parents to death because she had not yet been baptised... and they were extremely scared that she might die without being baptised... and not get into heaven.

The mother was sobbing "she hasnt been baptised... she hasnt been baptised..."

I truly HATE Catholicism. It is an evil.

Krispy

 2011/11/15 11:46
dietolive
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 Re: Krispy

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"The mother was sobbing "she hasnt been baptised... she hasnt been baptised..."

I truly HATE Catholicism. It is an evil."


The original Catholic Church believed very differently:

"...and when a child is born to any one of them, they praise God, and if again it chance to die in its infancy, they praise God mightily, as for one who has passed through the world without sins.”

- Aristides' Defense Addressed to the Emperor Hadrian in 125 A.D.

 2011/11/15 11:52Profile









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That was pre-300AD... you're only talking about 2 generations after Christ. That was not the Catholic Church that formed after Constantine.

Krispy

 2011/11/15 11:57
dietolive
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"That was pre-300AD... you're only talking about 2 generations after Christ. That was not the Catholic Church that formed after Constantine."

That is correct dear Brother. However, the early Church was truly "catholic", according to their own definition of the term. In those days, the true "universal" church was distinguished from all the gnostic false churches by their belief in the apostles' simple, straight-forward doctrine, and their literal obedience to the apostles' tradition and practices.

The term "catholic" (like so many other terms), was later assumed by others who saw the psychological value in continuing to use the mere term, but did not value continuing to agree with the early Church who actually coined it.

However, there is no need to quibble over this term.

The important thing is that we believe what the apostles actually wrote to us.

Be well Brother,
Doug

 2011/11/15 12:14Profile









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Nothing to quibble about, you are correct in that. That can be confusing sometimes, the double use of the term Catholic. I assumed you meant the Catholic Church as we know it today.

The term catholic church as mentioned by you, and in the creeds does indeed simply mean "universal", as in all Christians everywhere.

We're on the same page.

The Catholic Church needs to give that word back to us and go find another one. A word like "False" might be a good one for them to use... lol

Krispy

 2011/11/15 13:10
Miccah
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Baby goes to heaven.

Reference King David speaking about his 1st male child that died after being born to Bathsheba.

Blessings!


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Christiaan

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