hi kk, i hope my computer doesnt go crazy again. 'i pray in the Spirit and pray in the understanding also.1cor.14... would someone who is not in their 70s delete the duplicated posts.

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Lisa

Lysa,

I dont believe I am confused on this at all. :-)

Unknown tongue can be Chinese. The passages you quoted are not saying anything about there being a special "prayer language". This is presuming upon scripture. It's taking something we have reasoned out on our own... and making scripture say what we believe.

In fact, I've heard people pray in their "prayer language" and then get up in church and speak in tongues to the congregation... and it's the same exact thing.

When I was a young Christian I heard some people speak in tongues and pray in tongues so much that I could imitate them and sound exactly the same.

Still can.

Let me make this very clear and plain to everyone... I believe tongues is a gift for today! Absolutely.

Let me also make this very clear and plain to everyone... I believe tongues is widely abused, and much of what passes for tongues is merely gibberish. I dont believe it's demon inspired, I believe it people inspired.

Krispy

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Michael Liao

Krispy,

All I know to tell ya is to pray for the baptism of the Spirit (if you haven't) and see for yourself! See if it's a prayer language to you or not. Some things you just have to experience for yourself b/c no one can explain it enough to satisfy. (I'm off to work now!!)

God bless ya,
Lisa

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Lisa

Quote: Krispy wrote;

"""You can pray in the Spirit in a language you dont understand... such as Chinese. There is nothing here that says there is a "prayer language"."""

This is proved in Acts 2:7-11, They were not praying in any language, they were understanding the Gospel spoken by Peter and others that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.

They understood in their own Language, "how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?"

This is where tongues started and it is for spreading the Gospel. I believe it can still be used in this day, but with very strict overseeing by the Holy Spirit.

Prayer language? "pray in this manner", ""Our Father"", this I understand.

In Christ: Phillip

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Phillip

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal." (1 Corninthians 13:1).

What is Paul referring to in this verse when he speaks of praying in the tongue of angels? Could this possibly be a tongue that no human can comprehend or uderstand. My take on it is this, that if we are praying in the tongues of angels then it is to God and only God can understand it.

When the Holy Spirit was poured out at Azusa Street, many men and women that were called to be missionaries believed that the Holy Spirit was giving them the native language of the peoples that they were sent to evangelize.

I have been in meetings where in the gathering there were people there from other countries, and some of the messages that came forth were spoken in their native languages, and many of them were praises unto God.

Praying in the Spirit offends the human intellect. This is one of the reasons why it is resisted by so many men and women that see it as foolishness. Of course the enemy is behind all of the confusion and strife over the issue of praying in the spirit.

"For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful."(1Corinthians 14:14).

Mike

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Mike

Michael:

If you will examine closely 1 Cor. 12-14 you will notice that in chapter 14 Paul makes some very precise statements about tongues and interpretation. He says that in the context of the gift of tongues being in operation in order to bring a message to the assembly that an interpretation is required. Otherwise what good does the message do? If the purpose of God giving the gift in the context of the local body is for Him to speak to the body, then it makes sense that an interpretation is necessary otherwise nothing meaningful was communicated. But you will also notice several scriptures dealing with a prayer in tongues. Paul contrasts his own prayer life with the gift operating in an assembly. He says that he is thankful that he prays in tongues more than any of them, yet in the assembly he would rather speak with the understanding. Obviously from what he has said there was no interpretation required in the sense of praying in tongues. For when we pray in tongues, scripture says, our spirit prays but our understanding is unfruitful. But the point is not a message from God to the assembly but simply the ability to pray out of a place that surpasses my own limited intellect. Jesus is always interceding at the throne. I believe that when I pray in tongues I can enter into agreement with that intercession, praying the perfect wisdom of God in a situation. I believe 1 Cor. 2 bears this out.

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Travis

hi, if you pray in chinese that you do not know than chinese is your prayer language.or prayer tongue...whatever you do,do it unto the Lord.