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jochbaptist
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 Vain Oblations - what does it mean?

I received these 2 words -vain oblations- during worship on Sunday, and was wondering how to interpret it ...

I know it is from Isaiah 1:13. Is it vain (arrogant), or vain (useless)? What is modern-day "oblations"?

Has the Lord spoken to anyone on these lines?


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 2011/10/25 3:08Profile
lylewise
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 Re: Vain Oblations - what does it mean?

There is an inate desire of the believer to be obedient and please the Lord, being motivated by His love for us. To operate in the Spirit and not in the flesh would be a modern day application for the believer if we are looking for an application of the words given you, (vain oblations). How many things we are capable of doing in the flesh and not the Spirit? That may be what God would have you meditate on. We should be constantly aware of this, all of us, as we fight back the flesh daily and live guided by the purity provided the Spirit. Being priests of the Most High, we should be most concerned by this subject, for there are so many ways we can operate out of the Spirit.

 2011/10/25 10:16Profile
jochbaptist
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Dear lylewise

Thank you for putting into words what was brooding in my spirit. For me, the "sign" that shows when I start doing things in the flesh, is a feeling of emptiness. As opposed to the amazing sincere life there is in operating in the Spirit.

What amazes me though, is that when people operate in the flesh, (during a worship service, for instance)they carry on as if they are in the Spirit, try even harder to churn up the Spirit and forces the immature to join them in "forcing" it in the flesh.

May we all master the grace of keeping in step with the Spirit.

Blessings

Joch


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 2011/10/25 16:57Profile
Christinyou
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Galatians 5:22-23 But <de> the fruit <karpos> of the Spirit <pneuma> is <esti> love <agape>, joy <chara>, peace <eirene>, longsuffering <makrothumia>, gentleness <chrestotes>, goodness <agathosune>, faith <pistis>, Meekness <praotes>, temperance <egkrateia>: against <kata> such <toioutos> there is <esti> no <ou> law <nomos>.

Joy:
Strong's Greek Dictionary
5479. chara
Search for G5479 in KJVSL
cara chara khar-ah'
from 5463; cheerfulness, i.e. calm delight:--gladness, X greatly, (X be exceeding) joy(-ful, -fully, -fulness, -ous).

See Greek 5463

temperance:
Strong's Greek Dictionary
1466. egkrateia
Search for G1466 in KJVSL
egkrateia egkrateia eng-krat'-i-ah
from 1468; self-control (especially continence):--temperance.

See Greek 1468

I see no IHOP or Vain Oblations here.

In Christ: Phillip


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