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 Obama pastor: Occupiers on Wall Street 'stand with Jesus'


A member of President Obama's controversial faith council has implied the Occupy Wall Street movement stands with Jesus, while asking church members to bring pizza and casseroles to the protesters.

"The occupiers' desire for change and willingness to take action to do something about it should be an inspiration to us all," wrote Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners, a ministry professing a devotion to the pursuit of "social justice."
Wallis was appointed to in February 2009 to the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, a White House group replete with advocates for using religion to advance "social justice."

Wallis reportedly is a spiritual adviser to Obama and has known the president for years. ...

read more: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=353857


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 2011/10/10 20:25Profile
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 Re: Obama pastor: Occupiers on Wall Street 'stand with Jesus'

How ridiculous!

This "Wallis" guy is steeped in "Liberation Theology" that tries to make it the government's responsibility to give money, goods and services to the "poor" (and "poor" by American standards is rarely "poor" by world standards) and then claim that it is a "spiritual" calling.

I read some newspaper articles about this and most of the young people have no idea why they are there. They believe some "class warfare" propaganda and many have said that they are participating for food, sex, alcohol and drugs.

I can't provide a link to these articles, because they included images of the protesters that were quite vulgar.


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Christopher

 2011/10/10 20:44Profile









 Re: Obama pastor: Occupiers on Wall Street 'stand with Jesus'

arent you the guy that "hates money"? and what happpened to Jesus' saying, "Blessed are the poor"......?

the hypocrisy is so thick you could it with a knife. You say the church is too worldy, but you stand with the Herodians? and begrudge fellow believers the right to bless others with food?...and some of these who dont know Messiah, might be so touched at a Matthew 25 gesture, they lost their reflexive assumption that christians stand with monied interests?

shameful.

 2011/10/10 20:59
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Hi HezWelling,

I don't know if you are speaking to me. However, there is certainly a call by the Church to help the poor. However, "Liberation Theology" makes it the GOVERNMENT'S job. It is taking a Biblical concept and giving the responsibility to politicians in the government.

I don't think that this is a "Herodian" thing at all. The "Occupy Wall Street" group is literally a group of people (mostly young people) who seem to lack a legitimate agenda to begin with. They can point their fingers at a faceless entity known as "Wall Street" or "Big Insert-Name-Here," but they forget that a majority of Americans work for companies (large and small) and most of us get our goods and services from those companies.

Likewise, the poor in this nation aren't the "poor" as measured by Biblical standards. The poor here largely have their needs and wants cared for by fellow taxpayers. 47% of Americans have no federal tax liability. The richest Americans are paying the vast majority of taxes...of which much of that money goes to social welfare programs. So, in essence, the people are calling for the "wealthy" to do more of what they are already doing.

Still, it isn't a "Biblical" mandate to try and make it the government's responsibility to answer a command made explicitly to the church. It is a great thing to help the "poor" (even if very few are "poor" in a Biblical-times sense). That is certainly morally commendable -- but it isn't the same as what those who advocate Liberation Theology are calling for. It is simply taking a Biblical command and giving it to a secular government.

I understand your love for those who are hurting and a desire to help those who are poor...and the government tries to do that. Still, Greg (SermonIndex) simply posted an article. However, on a personal level, I commented that this small "occupy Wall Street" protest is fleeting by the very fact that no one seems to have a real agenda except to stereotype the successful as having done so on the backs of those who aren't as successful.

I wish that I could give you the links to the various news reports and interviews. However, there is so much vulgar and nude images that it probably isn't very wise.

May the Lord bless you exceedingly.


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 Re: Obama pastor: Occupiers on Wall Street 'stand with Jesus'

I believe that the bible says somewhere that if the people don't want to work, then don't let them eat either. "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat." (2 Thessalonians 3:10).

These people want a free hand out, and President Obama encourages these protests because of his philosophy of the redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor.

Yes, the Church should feed the poor, but that does not include those that have an entitlement mentality and are too lazy to work.

Mike


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Mike

 2011/10/10 21:19Profile









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its neil Chris, and dont worry about anything; its too late, the die is cast, Judgement is coming, America will be salted with fire, God has been "played" long enough in America ,too long, used for man's dark heart and desires and His Hand shall not be turned back. No more intercessory prayer, no more conferences, no more "revivals", no more religious shows, God has said "enough", annoint ourselves for burial.

 2011/10/10 21:23





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