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 what do you think about this prophetic word about japan?

http://www.morningstartv.com/prophetic-perspective-current-events/japanese-earthquake-prophesied-20-years-ago-part-1

 2011/3/23 23:47Profile
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 Re: what do you think about this prophetic word about japan?

I got as far as, "Hello, I'm Rick Joyner..." and then I knew that it wasn't any sort of prophecy that I need to give ear to.

Also, Mr. Joyner has no active relation to Japan that I'm aware of. God will raise up His own prophets for us here. If he was a prophet for this country, he would have warned us that it was coming. (saying an earthquake will happen in Japan 22 years ago is not a prophecy BTW, that's like saying that there will be sun in California) We're in no need of Mr. Joyner's or Mr. Jones's fanciful imaginations.

 2011/3/24 8:03Profile
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Not to say you need any more proof of Mr.Joyner's falseness he has predicted California will be hit with a bigger earthquake by the end of the year. Should this prophecy fail it will remove any other doubt out there.


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 2011/3/24 8:11Profile
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Should this prophecy fail it will remove any other doubt out there.



The sad thing is, is that it won't. His track record alone should attest to the fact that his words are not God's. Yet, people still pay attention to him. And also, EVEN IF there was a meltdown in Japan and an earthquake in California, and the downfall of both economies, these things are also being echoed by economists and atheists alike. Because Mr. Joyner were to agree with them and such things were to happen, it wouldn't prove anything more than that he said the same thing that the the rest of the world was saying would happen.

On a similar note, I like the subtle (or not so) little "give money to Morningstar" commercial that they found a magical little way to throw in the middle of that "prophecy". It made me chuckle, how about you Mathew?

 2011/3/24 8:35Profile
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Perhaps an agenda eh? :)

For whatever reason my dad doesn't feel Joyner is a false prophet but I continually tell him, Follow the MONEY these multimillion dollared ministries that push collecting money just aren't biblical. He is just now starting to realize TBN and some of the faith people he once listened to aren't all their cracked up to be.

I suppose I will remain with an open mind on all of this but scripture should ALWAYS be our authority not a gut feeling or something the Spirit may or may not have said, any good conviction will be backed heavily by scripture.


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 2011/3/24 8:44Profile
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I suppose I will remain with an open mind on all of this but scripture should ALWAYS be our authority not a gut feeling or something the Spirit may or may not have said, any good conviction will be backed heavily by scripture.



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 2011/3/24 8:48Profile
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None of us have the right to proclaim years or time. The prophecy should always be left to it will or this will occur. Exact times and dates become idiotic and selfish.

No one will ever know days or hours

 2011/3/24 9:43Profile
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Doesn't matter the time line for this one. It's like shooting arrows into the sky. An earthquake will be in California, and then Japan, and then California. OK. I can do the same thing too, watch;

"There will be revolution and civil unrest in the Middle East."

Let's not put a time line on that one either. Would you like to support my ministry? I have some payments that are begging to be paid off.

Doesn't matter what the fellow says either. His track record speaks against him. He publicly endorsed Todd Bentley (before AND after the divorce and remarriage) and "prophesied" with a whole gang of other "prophets", that this revival would be blessed out of control and prosper. Shortly after it all came crashing down. His continued endorsement of Bentley ALONE shows that he at best doesn't know the Word of God. If he's not even familiar with that, why should we assume he knows the counsel of God?

Sure some of his stuff can come through, but Deuteronomy 13 told us about guys like this a long time ago. We've had thousands of years of warning from the Word telling us not to pay heed to these dreamers who want us to go after gods that we've never known. Joyner and company do not point us to the God of the Bible. They point us to the god of Morningstar ministries, and the god of Bentley, the Kansas City "Prophets", Toronto, Pensacola, the god of drunkenness, the god of strange manifestations, the god of animal imitation, the god of experience trumps the Word. THAT god. I don't know that god, nor am I interested in joining hands with that crew to follow that god.

I don't think he's lying or willfully deceiving anyone though. I very much do believe he's seeing visions and mental pictures of sorts. Nothing more than a repeat of 1 Kings 22. He clearly doesn't know the Word of God. This is what happens as a consequence when you decide you want to speak on His behalf, without knowing what He's already said.

When he makes a video repenting of his false prophecies and false doctrines, then I'll actually give some merit to what he's saying.

 2011/3/24 10:32Profile
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Hey mgulder

Where did Rick Joyner say a bigger quake is coming by the end of the year? I read a little of his stuff and did not see that exactly.

Ruf


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 2011/3/27 21:09Profile









 Re: what do you think about this prophetic word about japan?

Saw this in the 100 year edition of the National Geographic Society. I wonder if Christians thought that they were living in the critical moment in history when this event occurred. Notice the date.

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1896 Tsunami Affecting Japan On June 15 1896, an earthquake occurred off the coast near the Japanese port city of Sanriku. The earthquake, which measured 7.2 on the Richter scale, triggered the formation a massive tsunami that devastated the city killing over 26,000 people. The tsunami waves reached an intimidating height of 25 meters (80 feet) as it crashed upon a crowd that had gathered in a city to celebrate a religious festival. The tsunami was also observed across the Pacific: In Hawaii, wharves were demolished and several houses were swept away. In California, a 9.5 feet wave was observed, according to the San Francisco Chronicle of June 16, 1896. This Sanriku tsunami served as an impetus for tsunami research in Japan. What is unusual about this disaster is that the size of the tsunami was much larger than would be expected from the size of the earthquake, 7.2 on the Richter scale. At the time of the Sanriku tsunami earthquake, a weak shock was felt, followed by an extremely slow shaking that lasted about 5 minutes. Approximately 35 minutes after the earthquake, the large tsunami arrived at the Sanriku coast.

 2011/3/27 22:07





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