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Earendel
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 Riots, Social Unrest, and Gas Prices.

Riots and social unrest that are presently occurring in the Middle East, has been causing the cost of crude oil to sky rocket on speculation that a disruption in crude oil will occur. Just like dominoes, one country after another is falling.

There is an article in the Jerusalem Post that says:

'World economy will fall if revolts spread to S. Arabia'

By BEN HARTMAN
02/24/2011 04:47

Israeli security expert Gal Luft tells 'Post' that military intervention won’t help, stresses importance of breaking oil’s monopoly on transport.


“If something like we have seen in Egypt or Libya happens in Saudi Arabia, we’re talking about a catastrophic scenario that will bring a global economic meltdown.”

Talking to Gal Luft about security and the effect of oil on the global economy is not for the faint of heart. The executive director of the Washington-based think tank the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security spoke to The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday during the fourth annual Eilat-Eilot Renewable Energy Conference, in a 45-minute conversation that described the petroleum tightrope on which the world’s economies are teetering.

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?ID=209605&R=R1

This has a lot of people concerned as news has recently come out that people in Saudi Arabia are:

Calling for a “Day of Rage” across Saudi Arabia on March 11, 2011.

DUBAI (Reuters) – Hundreds of people have backed a Facebook campaign calling for a “day of rage” across Saudi Arabia next month to demand an elected ruler, greater freedom for women and release of political prisoners.

The page called for a “revolution of yearning” on March 11 in the kingdom, the world’s biggest oil exporter and which is ruled by an absolute monarchy.

Read more:
http://investmentwatchblog.com/calling-for-a-day-of-rage-across-saudi-arabia-on-march-11-more-than-460-people-had-endorsed-by-wednesday/

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And now there is news that the U.S. government may shut down on March 4, 2011

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The countdown to a possible government shutdown is on.

If lawmakers don't pass a funding extension by March 4, the government will shift to performing essential operations only. That could mean that government workers would stay home, national parks and museums would close and cleanup at toxic waste sites would stop.

It's difficult to predict how the current government would respond to a shutdown, because each federal agency is responsible for crafting and updating its own "shutdown plan." Those plans are not made public....

Read more: http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/21/news/economy/government_shutdown/index.htm


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So what happens if there is little or no crude oil, and the government of the world's most powerful nation shuts down? What of their military, does it shut down too? Is Saudi Arabia really on the brink of an overthrow like Egypt and Libya and others? Are we really seeing the judgement of God beginning on the world, or are these just birth pangs and all is well?


Article From: http://the-christians-forum.com/topic/3186078/1/

.....A Great Depression not seen since time began has begun, and now I want you to consider a war in the Middle East that involves Iran and Saudi Arabia and other Middle East states, as to what kind of global oil shortage that that would cause...a World Wide oil shortage of unprecedented proportions, where all nations on earth are adversely affected...this will be an absolute catastrophe!!


...if this happens, and I believe it shall, this conflict will surely go global into a full blown World War, because of all the nations in the world that have a stake in Middle East oil, and because they will all be there defending their own critical national interests...

And with a world wide shortage of crude oil, global war will surely follow. And because of war, there will little or no fuel left for transport trucks, cars, jets, ocean liners, or any other kind of transport...which means little or no food or other commodities will be delivered to the grocery stores or any other goods and services for that matter.

Civil disorder will surely break out across the globe leading to mass rioting, looting, hoarding and panic. Chaos will erupt in every city across the globe, leading to the declaration of martial law in many countries...

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I feel the time is close now, the Day of the Lord, approaches...the times of Jacob's trouble

Do not fear this time that is before us, the Lord Jesus Christ has said that when you see end-time events occur, to look up be encouraged because your redemption is near. So with a word of encouragement, do not look on world events and fear what is coming on the world because these things must come to pass. God has everything under control...and you are in His hands, and no one can take you out of His hands.










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 2011/2/27 18:46Profile









 Re: Riots, Social Unrest, and Gas Prices.

Hia Brother - I understand your concern. The News has been NUTZ since the Egypt's event but if you wouldn't mind me givng some words of exhortation, of sorts.
I've followed eshatology and world events like a hawk, and not even by choice, for more than 30 yrs and there's a few words that we all need to know, if we're going to "keep His Peace" in these days.

One is the word - "reactionary" - the other is the acronym - TPTB = The Powers That Be.

Anyhow, TPTB play on getting "reactionary" responses from the populace. It's a technique to put the mind in a sort of borderline anxious state, where it cannot operate in a fully controlled function.
They did it to us with the Y2K business and have, every so often since.

The only way to counter a 'reactionary' response is to stay in His Word, in prayer (a Two-way communication system with The Creator of all things), so that one knows what is coming upon the earth, Before it happens, and to remain Calm.

I hadn't planned to post this link, but I thought I would, just to show how first a post is posted, and first you see that "reactionary" response and then by the mid or end of the thread - the News eithers settles back down or the "logic" part of the brain clicks in again - as opposed to the 'reactionary response'.

I don't endorse any other forums - but to get some news and watch responses - this one is good enough ....

http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=8

Disclaimer - I don't agree with much that is posted, others may, but my reasoning is - it's a good place to get some perspective on how "News" is handled or received - both in a negative sense and then later, in a more logical way.
There are Christians and some non-Christians on this site.

Hi Invar!


Well, just felt led to post this.

Shalom~Shalom ~ Amen!

 2011/2/27 19:30









 Caliphate: the beginning of the United states of Islam.

There must be Unity occur, if Sharia law will consume the World and the Islamic Messiah sets up his reign. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran, and the tenants of the Muslim brotherhood, declare that Chaos must burn in Islam to create a vacuum before this is possible.

This, in my opinion, is that. It is the beginning of the end times , and the anticipation of the MAN OF SIN, who I believe is the anti-Christ.


There IS ALWAYS GOODNESS AND GLORY FOR HIS OWN IN THE MIDST OF JUDGMENT.....FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM MORE THAN THEMSELVES........

I received the core of these Words in the 1990s..and some as late as 2003..and they came associated with the presence of God, and often with the audible Word of God.

There is a blessing within them for the faithful, I believe.


Justice and Glory

by Thomas Watkins

If this were my very last article that I ever wrote, or last encouragement, or warning, before my death, this would be it. It is the most valuable thing that I have to give, to serve the body of Christ. We must be prepared for the holocaust that is riding these winds of judgment, and realize that this is from the Lord Jesus. We are waking up, even those of us who love slumber.

Over many years, the Lord has given me several interlocking revelations about His church in America. One important piece of that is THE END OF THE AMERICAN DREAM! The Lord spoke that phrase, and revealed to me it would center around a “greed mortgage craze”, and there would be massive homelessness from the middle class, and riot like anger within the black and minority community. This was in 2003. A HOLY COMPANY WOULD THEN APPEAR. HERE:

http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/guest-author-the-end-of-the-american-dream/

But this is only a small portion of what we can expect to come, both in Glory, and in Judgment.

The end of the American dream is about the holiest company ever assembled in this country, emerging within the greatest financial judgment ever to be in this country. There are two types of judgment. One has Mercy mixed in with it; a type of discipline that gives way to the possibility of repentance, of turning back to God’s way, away from our own, and being restored, healed by our tender Father. Most of judgment is in this vein, because the Father is most merciful and gracious, and desires all to come to Him. He takes no pleasure in the death and destruction of the wicked. This financial judgment has mercy mixed in it, and God is leaving space for the Church, and America to repent, and believe.

The other type of judgment is a judgment when all mercies are depleted.

This is called Wrath. Consider Jeremiah’s many, many, ignored pleadings with Jerusalem, and then one of them was his last; for the Babylonian warriors broke through the wall and proceeded to rape, murder and plunder; and not even sparing the toddlers and infants. It was a holocaust; a horror beyond thought; but it was real. One could argue that America was once the cradle of the FREE church of our Lord, maybe foremost in all of the Earth…in the days of her youth. If we have not become the “Great Whore who sits upon many waters”, I assure you that we are a part of her.

We despise Jesus, we mock Him, and MOST of our churches have a mere form of Christianity, but reject the power to become agents of His love and mercy. We are enamored with our own happiness, and promote our wills and lives. God has turned her over to the wolves. “The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?”

The Lord is defining Apostasy here. This is the “what” and “how” of why People fall away. God’s people have fell in love with their own lives. God has become an inconvenience, a burden, a slave master; and they will resist bending to Him or ANYONE, over their dead bodies. THE ONLY MINISTERS THAT THEY ACCEPT ARE THE ONES THAT SPEAK OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY! We are seeing a flood of sorcerers and magicians and Usurpers that would be unimaginable 10 years ago; and our “Main Line” churches too! A form of godliness wrapped in dead form; Void of the Spirit, yet glorying in doctrine and political correctness.This is why America as a country is being judged. “If the salt has lost it’s saltiness, WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR?” “TO BE CAST UPON THE DUNGHILL!”

That’s wrath; utter rejection derived from utter rebellion. In 2001, I was caught up in the Spirit with the Lord. It was a though I was traveling around the Earth with Jahweh; sailing high above, and watching the continents below. There were no rivers, cities, or wilderness; only a massive wheat field. The sun was shining, the wheat shimmered in a gentle wind. The wheat was mature and golden; the sky was a Robin’s egg blue. It completely covered every bit of surface on these continents; the inhabited ones. Out of the substance of the Earth and the Sun and the Wheat the Lord Spoke; “IT’S HARVEST TIME!”... the vision ended.

For years I had misconceptions of the harvest as being a time of worldwide sweeping revival. I now know that it is not. The Harvest is the “End of the AGE!” The Harvest is the time of exposure, of light revealing and separating the darkness. The Harvest is a time of separation; a time when the evil look alike wheat is exposed for what it really is. POISON!

Matthew 13; verses: 24Jesus presented another parable to them, saying, “The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25″But while his men were sleeping, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went away. 26″But when the wheat sprouted and bore grain, then the tares became evident also. 27″The slaves of the landowner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28″And he said to them, ‘An enemy has done this!’ The slaves said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?’ 29″But he said, ‘No; for while you are gathering up the tares, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30′Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and in the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them up; but gather the wheat into my barn.”

Remember this; “and the enemy who sowed them is the devil, and the HARVEST IS THE END OF THE AGE!”; and the reapers are angels.”..vs:39

WE ARE SOON TO ENTER TRIBULATION. We are now experiencing the very beginning of the birth Pains of it. I will now share a very troubling set of visions that I was given, about the wrath part. I was shown the INVASION of AMERICA by foreign armies. In the first vision, I was in the Spirit, and was peering through the reeds, on a bluff above the ocean, on American Soil.

I heard a terrifying thunder of a massive and numerous army marching. I heard the cadence of boots marching in step, so many that the earth shook. I trembled, yet I watched on. Out of the ocean, close to my hiding spot in the reeds, a foreign army arose right out of the sea. These were foot soldiers, dressed in the camouflage stripes of another nation. They all had back packs, and assault weapons, but were staged to fight light, and mobile. They were terrifying in their sheer numbers and power.

A voice spoke to me over my right shoulder; a voice that I know. It was the voice of God, the Lord Jesus. He just said; “20 million.” I understood that this was the number of the invading army. I understood that they were an occupying and an invading army; and there goal was to blitzkrieg to the heart of the cities in overwhelming numbers, and once there, they would be impregnable. Once inside of a city, with perhaps 500,000 men, we would be helpless. This would of course be a sneak attack; and would happen suddenly.

The corresponding vision I had several years before, was about an AIR WAR, on American soil, for AIR superiority before the main body is set to advance. This was near the exact area that I saw the armies rise. I saw a bombing war, with multitudes of attack planes. I saw the enemy with waves and waves ; and when we think we have a chance, another and another wave of fighters and bombers dive in. I watched this war for a very, very long time, and as I saw it continue, I watched a very small object spinning out of the war, towards me. It was a tree, and as it approached me, it became larger and larger until I saw that it was a tree sent from God. It was covered perfectly in most beautiful leaves; It was, “The tree for healing for all nations” spoken of in the Revelation of Jesus Christ.

It is maturity in the Church. It is Jesus Himself alive in this end times Church, right here in America. The day is coming, when we will no longer be impotent, and lackadaisical. Healing, and power over all of the work of the enemy will be deeds that are commonplace, and it will be the day of instant fruit the Amos prophesied of, when the treader of grapes would be overcome by he who sows the seed. It will be the fullness of Jesus in His bride; It will be the Overcoming church; the Remnant Bride that has endured to the end, that loved Jesus more than her own way, her own life.

The very sad thing about this, is imminent judgment that must come. I believe that prior to this invasion we will be nuked, along with every military base in the world, and every nuclear ship, and missile base. I believe that this will primarily occur on the East coast, and some cities in the west. The Midwest will be left for food production. I was not shown this by the Lord; this is my own judgment, but I believe that this horror will leave 100 MILLION Americans dead before the end….TWO FOR ONE, FOR EVERY INNOCENT LIFE MURDERED THROUGH ABORTION! This is Wrath on the unrepentant. I saw this invasion take place on the TEXAS COASTLINE and New Orleans area, on the same path as KATRINA.

It will be a time of horror, hand in hand with the Glory of the ages.

This is me; I was not shown this by the Lord, but I believe when this happens, we will be very close to the MIDDLE of this Great Tribulation. There will be 42 months, at least, to go. Jesus will rescue Israel, and the believers in all of the world then. We will then begin our eternity, as will the many damned, who hate God and his Christ.

I want to give you some signs upon the way, that the Lord has shown me.

I saw the company of real messengers, Apostles, that the Lord has ordained for America. They are broken and filled with holiness, and possessed with more authority that man could imagine. They hate the usurpers, Nicolaitans, and false apostles like the NAR and such, and will lay their lives down for the least of the brethren, whoever that those may be. They are filled with humility and love.

One of the signs that they have manifested is when we see, “AN AMERICAN BAND OF MARTYRS”…These will be saints that will go in the face of death and martyrdom to carry the gospel to foreign shores. They will be butchered, and slaughtered, but behind them many more will follow, and this will be a pleasing aroma before the Lord. When you see and read of this, then you will know that real Godly apostles are here too, to shepherd the American flock through this tribulation and unto Jesus alone.

The second sign will be harder to perceive, but just as real.

We will begin to see saints that we would consider dead, destroyed and fallen away, restored. Many of them will have been wounded in the current WAR in the church, between an emerging humanist-new age gospel and “apostle” mindset that denies the CROSS, both as Jesus as the only way to God, and the cross that the individual MUST bear DAILY, as he dies to himself, to lives to God, and learns how to love. People that you would not imagine, will return to the Love of Jesus, and become a blaze for God. It will be amazing, similar to Ezekiel’s “DRY BONES” vision…right here, in America.

There are TEN Virgins: All wake up, but all don’t survive. What is the keystone for the survivors?, and what did the victims of blindness lack? Oil for the lamps. It is the Holy Spirit flowing in relationship with He who stands among the candlesticks. Everyone assumed they possessed it, but really only some did. This is the most important possession in your entire life, even for Eternity. Do you fellowship with Jesus? Do you know Him? Do you worship Him, in Spirit and in truth, or do you just have an idea of that, or a form of that? Only one thing we will possess in this soon coming trouble is FAITH, a quiet assurance that we know Him who we have rested our soul upon.

Hebrews 11 33 who by faith conquered kingdoms, performed acts of righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight. 35 Women received back their dead by resurrection; and others were tortured, not accepting their release, so that they might obtain a better resurrection; 36 and others experienced mockings and scourgings, yes, also chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, they were tempted, they were)put to death with the sword; they went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, ill-treated 38 (men of whom the world was not worthy), wandering in deserts and mountains and caves and holes in the ground. 39 And all these, having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised, 40 because God had provided something better for us, so that apart from us they would not be made perfect.

This was not written apart from us, even today, and it is more than a historical encouragement, it is a code, a living testament about how true saints will react to extreme hardship and persecution. Do not be deceived into thinking that a farm in Idaho or a large storehouse will succor you in this time. It will not, and you will be very disappointed. As then, as now, Only a living faith in Jesus, sustained by daily bread, will enable you to endure unto the end; and the end for some of us will surely be martyrdom.

I see the church as a resurrected remnant; a little flock. I see her in twos and threes, where glory falls as well in many, many home churches and personal groups where real relationship will and is able to be cultured. We are now yet in a time of grace where we all can repent, and return to our first loves; where we can determine a life “All for Jesus, No matter the COST!…We have space, but I promise you as I warn you; THE DOOR IS CLOSING!

Also, there is yet space where we can pray for America. Will she repent? Probably not, but Abraham wasn’t slowed up for SODOM, before the Lord with that probability, was he? It is possible that the number of that occupying force and army may be diminished, but not without repentance. Remember Nineveh.

We will need each other much more in the future, and Jesus most of all.

We will seek him continually in these times of trouble, and it is written; “The Lord has NEVER forsaken ANY who seek after Him.” This is the difference in having oil for your lamps, and being left without it, in the most dire of nights. Jesus is Lord and Creator, and Satan, and every one of his devil angels that followed him, are nothing, and less than nothing before His glorious power. They are together less than a drop falling into a cavernous 55 gallon drum, and united less than a match head of chaff, in a forest fire. Jesus is but using the devil, and anti-Christ, to prove his purposes, and His faithful, and His Faithfulness. when Jesus is done using him, he will be cast headlong into the lake of fire, where he will burn for eternity, along with his brother angels….[ AND ALL OF THE HUMAN LOST..] We are also a part of this trial, that will encompass the entire earth. We overcome by faith.

“BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB, THE WORD OF OUR TESTIMONY, AND BY NOT LOVING OUR OWN SELF LIVES, EVEN UNTO DEATH!”

John said, in Revelation, “Your brother, in tribulation and patience.” That’s how it has to be.

* brother Tom Watkins



 2011/2/27 20:01
EverestoSama
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 Re: Caliphate: the beginning of the United states of Islam.

I fully believe in a coming judgement on America. However, that being said, if one reads the article posted on the government shutdown and looks into it to get a little bit more information, it's not NEARLY as dire as it sounds.

It's a bit of an inconvenience for me as unfortunately my mother's waiting on her passport application at the moment, so her and my dad can come visit me in March, and that could really mess things up. But it's not like America is going to implode because of a shutdown.

I'm not saying this couldn't be the beginning, but like Jesus-is-GOD said, this is making something sound a lot more frantic than it is. Similar to Y2K, sometimes news is spun in a way intended to start a frenzy. Wars and rumors of wars. Just continue to have faith in Christ, no matter what the media is telling you.

 2011/2/27 21:56Profile









 Re: Riots, Social Unrest, and Gas Prices.


I know this is going to seem 'weird' but I am going to bump my own 1st post on this thread, for reasons that I feel may be in some ways necessary.
Hope that's kosher with y'all. With all that happens in a day - I think that one post, that I needed to hold my breath to post, may be just what Dr. Jesus may have ordered.

Many Blessings to all here at SI & all of His Saints Everywhere around the globe. Amen!

In His Love.

 2011/2/28 12:09
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 Re: Caliphate: the beginning of the United states of Islam.

The unrest that is occurring worldwide is strange, very strange.

Back in the 1960s and later, the unrest could be attributed to perceived injustices inflicted by whites upon blacks in addition to the outrage of USA involvement in the Vietnam War. Power groups took this discontent and used it rile the masses where you had riots, demonstrations, boycotts, burnings of buildings. It was dreadful - all herein the good ole USA.

Back then it was known to many that communism manipulated people's greed and anger to inflame their passions into riotous living - literally.

At the same time - globally - communism was taking over country after country, existing governments were falling like dominoes.

Back then the cause was easy to understand - at least it appeared that way...

But today? what is the political entity/philosophy fomenting this outrage, these riots? There seems to be a cohesive entity master minding all this...what who or what?

Unless....


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Sandra Miller

 2011/3/1 7:38Profile
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Well Sister Ginny you know as well as any of us as the Social Injustice of Abortion and the USA has about 3,200 to 4,000 abortion per day. Not to mention that human trafficking is an underground injustice, its actually cheaper to purchase a slave now than it was at the height of the Atlantic Slave trade. An individual can go to Asia a literally purchase a young girl for the night for 3 dollars. We have just as many injustices if not more now than we ever have, those participating in it have just gotten a little sneaker with their tactics.


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 2011/3/1 7:48Profile
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Everything that can be shaken will be shaken. With the eyes of faith we can see the hand of God involved in all of this. But at the same time, we must be aware of the principalities and powers at play. This goes beyond conspiracy theories, religious convictions, philosophical beliefs, economic theory, and any other such thing.


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 2011/3/1 8:17Profile
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 Re: you know as well as any of us as the Social Injustice of Abortion and the USA has about 3,200 to

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you know as well as any of us as the Social Injustice of Abortion and the USA has about 3,200 to 4,000 abortion per day. Not to mention that human trafficking is an underground injustice, its actually cheaper to purchase a slave now than it was at the height of the Atlantic Slave trade. An individual can go to Asia a literally purchase a young girl for the night for 3 dollars. We have just as many injustices if not more now than we ever have, those participating in it have just gotten a little sneaker with their tactics.



True, Matthew. But no 'pro-lifer' is threating their community with boycotts, riots and demonstration to force the powers-that-be to capitulate to their demands.

Today we see evil run amok, protected by the courts and accommodated by the religious community.

But is here no political/philosophical power masterminding all this upheaval? it was back in the 60s..

As an aside, I was fascinated by the building boom in Dubai. The humongous buildings, the beautiful structures, etc. But it has come to an end - much like the tower of Babel...I find this amazing...


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