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 Will America Survive 2011? ~ Sid Roth ~ Rick Joyner

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 2011/1/3 22:26
Solomon101
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 Re: Will America Survive 2011? ~ Sid Roth ~ Rick Joyner

THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY TIMELY AND POINTED SET OF DREAMS/MESSAGES TO THE CHURCH !

I know many here don't hold Rick Joyner in high regards. However, I think it would behoove even those who hold that view to read the message of the dreams with an open mind. Put prejudice aside for a moment and see if the Lord might just be speaking something to you as well. I post the content of the dreams/messages below for those who did not wish to view the video.
Blessings!
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BEGIN JOYNER DREAMS-

Rick Joyner: A dream he had about America 2011
On October 22, 2010 I dreamed I was walking through a log
cabin that was the United States. Every room was a
different part of the country. Small fires started
breaking out in every room, which were easy to stomp out.
As I started to walk to the door another fire ignited
that I went over to put out. I saw that it had burned
through the subfloor so I looked through it to see if I
could determine what was causing these fires. The entire
foundation of the house was covered in hot burning coals.
I knew the house was about to go up into flames so I
started to turn aside to grab my laptop. When I started
to turn I heard the voice of the Lord say,“You don’t have
time for that. Get your wife, and the fire hose.” The
dream ended.


INTERPRETATION: Our national problems are much worse than
we realize, the whole foundation of our nation is being
consumed by a fire that is much bigger than we can now
see. It is this bigger fire burning the foundation that
is causing the little ones to break out continually. We
look for and put out the source of these little fires now
breaking out. My wife represents the church, and she
alone has what can put out this fire—the truth, which is
represented by the water from the fire hose.

APPLICATION: It was the pulpits of America that woke up
America so that she could throw off the tyranny being
imposed on her to become a free and independent nation.
It is going to take the same kind of courage, boldness,
and willingness to sacrifice to save our nation that it
took to found it. It is going to take the preachers of
America, the prophetic voices that are here for such a
time as this—to again arise and stand for the truth, and
to encourage all who have been entrusted with the truth
to arise and stand for it without compromise. The battle
for our future is far from over—it has just begun. The
fire that is threatening to destroy our house is
attacking the whole foundation and it is yet unseen by
most. We have to wake up to this immediately and pour the
truth out like never before or our country will very
quickly go up in flames.

2011 is going to be one of the most trying years in our
history. We are not fighting an enemy that can be
defeated by elections, and there are times coming when it
will look like a victory just to have an election in
2012. If the church awakens to her purpose by the
end of 2012 we can be back on the course to a future
brighter than any time in our history. If the church does
not arise, and become the prophetic voice she is called
to be, America will go into a terrible bondage and
darkness.



COMING BEAR MARKET?

A week after I had the dream I shared above, a friend
had a dream that I felt corroborated my dream. Following
is an abbreviated version of what he sent to me (I am
withholding his name because he is a missionary in a very
dangerous part of the world):

I had a dream on the evening of October 29 and again
during the afternoon on October 30. I saw a giant grizzly
bear running rampant through the US and the rest of the
World, though primarily in the US. It was large enough
that it could swallow a man whole in a single bite.
People everywhere were cowering in fear. I watched in
horror as it swallowed person after person with alarming
speed, and left a swath of destruction behind it. As it
approached where I was standing, that fear and panic
started to overcome me, and then suddenly I felt a peace.
That was when I noticed the Lord was standing next to me.
He said, "Come with me, you have seen all that you need
to here. There is something else you need to see."

He took me to what looked to be a classic steepled
church. When I walked inside while it still had the feel
of a house of worship it looked more like a hunting
lodge filled with trophies. Suddenly I saw what looked at
first to be the rampaging bear. Then I realized that, no,
this bear was considerably smaller, and while still
menacing, it was nowhere near as fearful as the rampaging
bear that I had seen earlier. After a moment I realized
that it was another trophy. As I approached I saw a
plaque at the bear’s feet that said, "The Great Bear of
1929." Even knowing that it was a long-dead trophy I
still stood trembling before this Bear. The same fear
and confusion seemed to radiate from it as was radiating
from the rampaging bear. Again I felt calm come over me
as the Lord stepped up to my side. When I turned to Him,
He said, "You need to stand in my peace to see clearly
what must be done." As I looked back at the bear I
noticed a rifle in a case next to it. It looked like an
Old M1 Garand in .30-06 caliber. When I looked at the
manufacturer information inscribed in the barrel it said,
"Mission and Intercession Armory." In place of model
number were two verses, "Matt. 6.33 & Matt.6.10." As I
was marveling at the rifle an old hunter came up. He was
dressed in a field jacket of WWII vintage. He said, "That
rifle is great for killing bears. We used it to take down
the Great Bear here. It is available for any who are
willing to take it up now. One well aimed shot at the
heart is all it takes." The dream ended.

INTERPRETATION: In both of these dreams there is an
answer to the crisis. In dreams and visions bears usually
represent fear, or as in this case, a ―bear market,‖
which is actually the result of fear. Though I was not
told this in my dream, I felt that the fear that was
devouring our foundation, and would soon consume the
entire house, was an economic fear. In my friend‘s dream
it was a bear bigger than the bear of 1929. Often
the time when we have or wake up from a prophetic dream
can have significance, indicating a date or a Scripture
verse. That he had this dream on ―the evening of October
29th‖ also speaks of 1929. Such a stock market crash is
what we are now approaching.

APPLICATION: At this writing the market is going up
around the world, with some reaching highs they have not
seen since the 2008 crash. They may go up higher still,
which is what happened in 1929. Even so, we are facing a
bigger bear market than we did in 1929. This is when we
can expect a great transfer of wealth like we did in the
1930‘s, which is when some of the great and enduring
fortunes in America were made. As one prophetic friend
who has a very accurate record in national and
international events told me last week, ―We‘re going to
the ̳bargain basement.‘‖ When I asked what he meant
he said stocks are going to the basement, but that‘s
where the bargains are.

I have followed this strategy of investing after a crash
with my retirement accounts, which I did after the 2008
crash, and have done very well. Even before the dreams
above I felt we were in for a big correction and began
selling all of the holdings in my retirement accounts
except for gold and silver. I am doing this to get ready
to buy in ―the bargain basement,‖ and I am sharing this
because I am so often asked what I‘m doing with my
investments. However, much more important than what we
are doing with our retirement accounts or holdings is
that we heed the message of this dream in Matt.6:10 & 33—
that we calm our hearts with the fact that His kingdom is
going to come, and His will is going to be done right
here on earth as it is in heaven. We are here to prepare
the way for His kingdom, and to proclaim it. If we really
believe this it would be where our biggest investments
are going. As Jesus said, ―Where our treasure is, there
will our heart be also.‖ Where are we putting our
treasure?



The courage and boldness of our founding fathers was
demonstrated by their willingness to sacrifice their
lives and their fortunes, and many of them gave up their
lives or their fortunes. They got a bargain for their
investment and treasure that is laid up where it cannot
be lost or corrupted. There are many today who have
likewise been given great fortunes for this same purpose.
Will the truly great souls arise today as they did then?

The election on November 2 was important and a step in
the right direction for our nation. We should be
encouraged by it. However, the crises we are now facing
will not be solved in Washington. Too many times
Christians have seen their candidates elected and
then relaxed, feeling that things were now going to be
okay, but they continued to get worse, if only a bit
slower. We should support and pray for our leaders, but
what we are now facing is beyond their ability to cope
with. Voting is important, but prayer is more
important than any vote. Prayer is crucial, but we must
add to it the proclamation of the truth. Above all—get
close to the Lord.
END JOYNER DREAMS/MESSAGE

 2011/1/4 10:56Profile
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THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY TIMELY AND POINTED SET OF DREAMS/MESSAGES TO THE CHURCH !



Brother, can you tell me how this message is different from anything the Scriptures and common sense tells us?

Does Joynor listen to his own sermons? Brother, I have a great difficulty giving any credibility to this man because of the persons he supports, people who are false prophets. Supporting them is the equivalent of being one with them. To eliminate any confusion I am referring to Todd Bentley.

Brother, I am not discrediting you, but based on Scripture I would be very reluctant in posting anything from anyone who supports false prophets, even if it sounds good.

God bless.

ginnyrose


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 2011/1/6 7:31Profile
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Whenever you see "Rick Joyner" and "prophet/prophetic" in the same statement, you should be aware that one will cancel the validity of the other out.

Unless of course the statement is something like, "Rick Joyner is a false prophet."

Also be careful of any "prophet" who wants to tie politics into their "prophecies".

 2011/1/6 8:03Profile









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"Also be careful of any "prophet" who wants to tie politics into their "prophecies"."


These words are so important. When will we learn?


 2011/1/6 9:11









 Dance unto your lord.


Here is a sample of Rick Joyner's most amazing prophetic anointing. Notice the children joining the dance as the demons increase in power.

What born again Christian could ever receive such filth as the gospel, not counting the various heresies that Morningstar has sheltered within the ministries of Todd Bentley, Bob Jones, and Paul Cain.....ALL who have lived there, and are a part of Joyner's extended prophetic team.

Andrew Strom, and Sermonindex...[Greg] recently posted a video about IHOP and Joyner, and the invasion of the demonic as the prophetic....somewhere down below.

What is stunning to me, is that they would have the nerve to qualify this as from the Holy Spirit. Satan is getting bold in his deception these days....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMxNwBwJ0XU

 2011/1/6 9:49









 Re: Dance unto your lord.

Morning star ministries is perhaps an apt name, Isaiah 14:12 anyone..

 2011/1/6 10:03
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 Re: Will America Survive 2011? ~ Sid Roth ~ Rick Joyner

Regardless of what you think of Rick Joyner, I believe that America is headed for severe judgement. Watch California! There are intercessors having dreams of catastrophic earthquakes. This has been going on for many years now.

It is not just Rick Joyner that is saying this. Anyone that is spiritual and is praying can see it coming. You don't even have to be very spiritual but just have a basic knowledge of the economy to see that we are heading for a financial collapse in this nation.

Much of what happens or doesn't happen in this nation is dependent on what the Church does or doesn't do in the area of prayer, repentance, and intercession.

Mike


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 2011/1/6 10:07Profile
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 Re: Dance unto your lord.



That is very old material though


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 2011/1/6 10:08Profile
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Regardless of what you think of Rick Joyner, I believe that America is headed for severe judgement. Watch California! There are intercessors having dreams of catastrophic earthquakes. This has been going on for many years now. It is not just Rick Joyner that is saying this. Anyone that is spiritual and is praying can see it coming. You don't even have to be very spiritual but just have a basic knowledge of the economy to see that we are heading for a financial collapse in this nation.



Thats true


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