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FranklinB
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 You Are Bigger Than Your Mountains

Jesus gave you his authority to rule in life. That's why He said to his disciples "Occupy till I come", in other words you hold things down until I come back. Well if He told you to occupy until He comes then He empowered you to do it. That's why He said "If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed you will say unto this mountain, be thou removed and be thou cast into the sea and it shall obey you" (Matthew 17:20). A lot of times when we approach a mountain we have the wrong view point. We look up at them when we should be looking down on them. The scripture says God raised Jesus up and sat him at his right hand with all things under his feet (Ephesians 1:20-22). And if all things are under his feet they are under your feet because God raised us up to set together with him (Ephesians 2:6).

But, sometimes we neglect our authority, we pray to God to do something and He's given you the authority to deal with it. Authority is given for a reason. Authority is given for you to rule over somethings. So you should be speaking to the mountains in your life in the name of Jesus. In Matthew 8:9 notice what the centurion said "For I am a man under authority, having soldiers under me: and I say to this man, Go, and he goeth; and to another, Come, and he cometh; and to my servant, Do this,and he doeth it." Notice he does not go to his superiors to get those under him to do something, he spoke and they obeyed. So when you come against a mountain in your life you should look from your seating in Christ, down on them and not up at them.

 2010/11/2 22:49Profile
sojourner7
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 Re: You Are Bigger Than Your Mountains

GOD raised up JESUS, GOD is greater
than our difficulties, our hardships,
our trials. GOD rules, we don't!!


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Martin G. Smith

 2010/11/2 22:57Profile
enid
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 Re: You Are Bigger Than Your Mountains

All this is is faith in faith, rather than faith in God.

John 15v5, 'I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in Him, bears much fruit, for without Me you can do nothing.

Our faith, trust and confidence needs to be in God and His word. And not in the vain and erroneous teachings of those who veer almost on blasphemy.

 2010/11/3 4:56Profile









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But, sometimes we neglect our authority, we pray to God to do something and He's given you the authority to deal with it. Authority is given for a reason. Authority is given for you to rule over somethings. So you should be speaking to the mountains in your life in the name of Jesus.

But 'we' don't OWN the authority of God. It remains HIS authority, which, as we abide in Him, He exercises THROUGH us.

This necessarily implies we have been buried with Him and are risen to walk in newness of life, not seeking our own things, but those which please HIM. Obviously, unbelief does not please Him, but the 'catch 22' of having authority as Christ did, is the cross which awaits our daily embrace.

Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints. Our victory over sin, THROUGH CHRIST, wins FOR HIM our worship and adoration.

Having laid hold on His victory, we are granted to exercise His authority, as we live to please God by doing His will.

 2010/11/3 8:36
jimp
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hi, i knew the father of this teaching...ken hagin. you did not start in the beginning,have faith in God or have the God kind of faith.now if God told me to move the mountain with my speech than i would tell it to move and it would move because God would move it ...the difference between faith and presumption is a word from God to you personnally.jimp

 2010/11/3 9:44Profile









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That's why He said "If you have faith as a grain of mustard seed you will say unto this mountain, be thou removed and be thou cast into the sea and it shall obey you" (Matthew 17:20). A lot of times when we approach a mountain we have the wrong view point.




Franklin, can you give me some concrete real life examples about what you mean by "moving mountains"?

 2010/11/3 10:35









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Just keep saying it, keep speaking it and soon enough it will be yours!
You posses what you express!
You own what you disown!
You keep what you reap!
You knead what you need!
No doe? No problem just confess and it's yours!

 2010/11/3 11:19
UntoBabes
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I have been looking up church history to see if it ever happened that some one has taken that promise literally and was amazed to find this account that happened in Egypt history around the 10th century.

History tells us:


Saint Simon the Tanner lived towards the end of the tenth century when Egypt was ruled by the Fatimid Caliph Al-Muizz, and Abraam the Syrian was the 62nd Coptic Pope (975 - 978).

At the time, many Copts (Coptic Christians) in Egypt were engaged in handicrafts. Saint Simon worked in one of those crafts widespread in Babylon (Old Cairo) which was tanning, a craft still known there till this day. This profession involved also other crafts that depend on the process, from where St. Simon carried several titles related to skins; Saint Simon the Tanner, the Cobbler, the Shoemaker.[5]

The Caliph Al-Muizz, who reigned during 972-975 AD [6], used to invite different religious leaders to debate in his presence. In one of those meetings in which the patriarch Abraham, also known as Pope Abraam and a Jew named Yaqub (Jacob) Ibn Yusuf Ibn Killis (and in another account of this story, was known as Moses) were present, Abraham got the upper hand in the debate. Plotting to take revenge, Ibn Killis quoted the verse where Jesus Christ, said in Matthew: If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to the mountain, Move from here to there, and it will move, nothing will be impossible for you (Matthew 17:20), and demanded that the Pope prove that his religion is right by means of this. After heading Ibn Killis say this, the caliph asked Abraham What sayest thou concerning this word? Is it your gospel or not? [7] The patriach answered Yes, it is in it. After hearing Abraham answer, the caliph demanded that this very miracle be performed by Abraham’s hand, or else he would be killed by the hand of the sword. It was then after hearing this that the patriarch asked for three days to complete the miracle. [8]


The Hanging Church, Cairo, built in the 3rd or 4th century AD.Abraham compiled a group of monks, priests and elders. He told them to all stay in the church for three days for a penance. On the morning of the third day, Abraham was praying in the Church of the Holy Virgin al-Mu’allaqa, when he saw the Holy Virgin. The Holy Virgin told him to go to the great market. She said to him: “there thou wilt find a one-eyed man carrying on his shoulder a jar full of water; seize him, for he it is at whose hands this miracle shall be manifested.”[9] Abraham listened to the Holy Virgin and went to the market where he met the man the Holy Virgin spoke of. The man who the Virgin spoke of was Simeon the tanner, who had plucked out his eye because of a passage from the bible (Matthew 5:29-30) which said: If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Simeon told Abraham to go out with his priests and all his people to the mountain with the caliph and all his soldiers. Simeon then told Abraham to cry out O Lord, have mercy three times, and each time to make the sign of the cross over the mountain. [10] The patriarch followed the words of Simeon the tanner (who was in the crowd of people) and the mountain was lifted. After the miracle was performed in the presence of the Caliph, the Pope turned left and right looking for St. Simon the Tanner, but he had disappeared and no one could find him (a sign of the saint's great humility).The caliph then turned to Abraham and said O patriarch, I have recognized the correctness of thy faith.

Shortly after the miracle took place, Al-Muizz decided to convert to Christianity. A baptismal font, large enough for the immersion of a grown man, was built for him in the Church of Saint Mercurius. This font still exists today and is known as “Maamoudiat Al-Sultan”, which means, Baptistry of the Sultan. In commemoration of this miracle, the Coptic Orthodox Church observes three days of fasting before the beginning of the Nativity Fast (Advent).


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 2010/11/3 11:35Profile









 Re: You Are Bigger Than Your Mountains


To jimp who said,

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...the difference between faith and presumption is a word from God to you personnally

You said it better than I.

And I keep thinking - GOD is bigger than MY mountains!

Gen 7:18 The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. 20 The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.


Whether He moves the mountain, or makes a way over it, it's God who does it by His faith in His own word, and on His faithfulness, I depend.

 2010/11/3 12:17
FranklinB
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No it's faith in God's word.

 2010/11/3 13:34Profile





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