in the past, you might have regarded me as an "adversary, or some weird freak apostate, who's grabbed the wrong end of the stick, and i might have regarded some of your postings as harsh, which i humbly ask your forgiveness, but i must tell you;

EVERYTHING you wrote in your previous post in this thread is spot on perfect, and i humbly say, yes and amen.

EVERYTHING, its almost as if "rome" seeks to devour us once again, but i know this, we have two knees to get upon, we have the Word, and we have the Lord Jesus Who said He will NEVER let us go.

Thank you in the Lord for that post, neil

(i havent even watched the video yet, i've seen this mess time and time again in the 8 short years i've walked with Jesus, imperfect as that walk may be, may God bless Tom)

Since we are on the subject of Kundalini power, I would submit a video that may fall into the category of outrageous.

This is actual footage of a young demon possessed woman, used as a lightening rod, "To release" an anointing, as a vehicle of worship, at a Morningstar meeting.

The odd thing, and dangerous thing about it, is that it isn't demonic at all to these young people. I think that after you have been initiated by receiving this power, this "Kundalini", you become numb to the actual conviction of the Holy Spirit.

You begin to see the gospel and worship in the same light as the devils promoting this madness....and thereby become controlled by them.....and eventually....if you cannot or will not repent; Fall Away from the Living God. [ by the millions it seems..]


It's actual name on youtube is "Rick Joyner's Morningstar Madness". [ Godsplumbline] They lay hands on innocent children. In their minds, they worship Jesus. Some, I believe, know better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMxNwBwJOXU

This may grieve some, or nauseate...but it is real, and this is pure pagan Kundalini, in one of it's forms.


On a lighter note, How would you like this young lady to come over for dinner, and pray a blessing on the food, with grandma and grandpa there.....and go on for about five minutes of this pagan chant-moan.....look up wide eyed, and say..."OK!...let's eat!"


Think there might be some leftovers?

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These videos are very disturbing, especially seeing alot of strange thing at the Pentecostal conferences and meetings I've been to personally.

Hi everyone,


Brothertom, a couple of things that you wrote stood out to me because I recognised them in a different stream recently:


'...social activism... etc. all converging to command the 7 mountains of influence...'


I mentioned in another thread that I had watched a program called 'Democracy now'

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34054&forum=48&6


since then I watched the program several times. Once near the end of a program they featured a segment from a rapper perfoming at an event called the US Social Forum, held in Detroit Michigan and described in another story at the website for DemocracyNow as connecting various "social movements and community organizations struggling for justice on everything from healthcare, the environment, fair trade, labor solidarity, immigrant rights, and racial profiling to Palestine solidarity, ending the wars, police brutality, and the devastating impact of the recession on people’s lives and sense of security."



A few of the lyrics immediately jumped out at me and look like they flow into the same stream of things that you mentioned:


"emergence,
we on the verge of an Earth shift,
while you searchin for purpose,"


She goes on to say something about 'parallel universes' but I couldn't make out all of the words.


The rap segment appears at 40:20 minute mark in the program here:

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/6/24/3_us_soldiers_speak_out_on


The rapper is named invincible and I think they have a new album called 'emergence'.




I believe that Babylon the great is not only the false religous system of the World, but it's political, social and economic influence as she sits not only upon seven mountains, but upon many waters.


Interesting, the thought, of many streams, converging into one. I guess that is, emergence.

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IT would be helpful if someone would define what 'kundalini" is and what the Hindu perception of it is. Anyone?

jlosinski said;

"IT would be helpful if someone would define what 'kundalini" is and what the Hindu perception of it is. Anyone?"

Sri Ramana Maharshi maintained that the Kundalini energy is nothing but the natural energy of the Self, where Self is the universal consciousness.

The Hindi perception of god seeking is to awaken the inherit god in the self...through a methodology involving Transcendental Meditative yoga. [me.]


"Kundalini awakening is often accompanied by new experiences, which can at times be daunting for those for whom the concept is unfamiliar. According to an article in Yoga Journal, some of the more common signs and symptoms of an awakened kundalini include:

Involuntary jerks, tremors or shaking,
Intense heat, especially as energy is experienced passing through the chakras, [ levels of cosmic consciousness.]
Visions or sounds at times associated with a particular chakra,
Intense feelings of pleasure,
Emotional purgings in which particular emotions become dominant for short periods of time.
"wikipedia."


Kundalini is called an Igneous Power or Serpentine Fire. [..Consider Todd Bentley's "fresh Fire" ministry, and the oft call for more "FIRE" at conferences..]


"According to inplainsite.com"
“Few Christians realize that for thousands of years gurus have operated with gifts of healing, miracles, gifts of knowledge, and intense displays of spiritual consciousness as they stretch out and connect with a cosmic power which, though demonic in origin, is very real.

The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called ‘Darshan’. At these meetings devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience from a touch by the open palm of the hand, often to the forehead, by the guru in what is known as the Shakti Pat or divine touch.

The raising of the spiritual experience is called raising Kundalini……
After a period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual elevation they begin to shake, jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably, sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal noises or laughter as they reach an ecstatic high.

These manifestations are called ‘Kriyas’. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds of physical signs during this period. Often devotees move on to higher states of spiritual consciousness and become inert physically and appear to slip into unconsciousness when they lose sense of what is happening around them.

This state is called ‘Samadhi’ and it leads to a deeper spiritual experience."..[inplainsite.com]


Toronto....Lakeland....Morningstar....and everywhere that inward transcendental , soaking, "contemplative" prayer is practiced...and everywhere that they allow the sorcerers [such as are exposed in these videos]... to craft their magic....Let it be Anathema...Cursed...until the Lord comes. [ again Thanks to Andrew Strom for the post.]

"I believe that Babylon the great is not only the false religious system of the World, but it's political, social and economic influence as she sits not only upon seven mountains, but upon many waters."..ChrisJD

Revelation 17:1-6
"Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits on many waters.
2. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries." This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6. I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.

9"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits."

It is written that anti-Christ will be given authority over the entire Earth. This, in itself must require a convergence, a toppling of the powers that be, into a One World system. It must be political, social and economic, as you have pointed out Chris.

It seems that ALL of Babylon has One thing in Common. They hate Jesus, and they murder His people. Religious Babylon seems to be shaping up to nurture and facilitate this, and indirectly engaging the true church with bits of the counterfeit in a progressive manner; Swallow a tiny kernel today, and apple tomorrow, a watermelon on Saturday.

The 7 mountains of influence by so called Christians that are Emerging are slightly different, but have always been the same culturally. They are: Government, Education, Media, The Arts and entertainment, Religion, Family, and the Foundation of them all: Business....For without money, you really don't possess the means to conquer anything!.. [colossal lie ]

This idea was supposedly given to 3 Christian leaders simultaneously in 1975....Bill Bright, Loren Cunningham, and Francis Shaeffer. [ go to youtube; search "Loren Cunningham seven mountains"..] It is a hybrid, brilliant Ecumenical idea that eventually promotes inclusiveness...god is love type of faith....and they are emerging unto this as we watch.

It seems that the Holy Spirit, and the gospel of Paul, unto the least of the brothers is meaningless. This is essentially a gospel that preaches a social hijacking, in order to dominate the influences to dominate the faith of the entire world, and the gears are ran by the cash.

The prophetic power to numb the conscience is powered by "Kundalini"...as it always has, since Babel. The tares are being bundled.

Yes - so much of all this deception is very "New Age".

Tom, you might be interested to know this video is no longer available online at YouTube.

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