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 EU Resolution 1580 (2007) The dangers of creationism in education

Saints,

this is right on the EU website! I believe they are trying to pass this as law.

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[b]Resolution 1580 (2007)1

The dangers of creationism in education[/b]

1. The aim of this resolution is not to question or to fight a belief – the right to freedom of belief does not permit that. The aim is to warn against certain tendencies to pass off a belief as science. It is necessary to separate belief from science. It is not a matter of antagonism. Science and belief must be able to coexist. It is not a matter of opposing belief and science, but it is necessary to prevent belief from opposing science.

2. For some people the Creation, as a matter of religious belief, gives a meaning to life. Nevertheless, the Parliamentary Assembly is worried about the possible ill-effects of the spread of creationist ideas within our education systems and about the consequences for our democracies. If we are not careful, creationism could become a threat to human rights, which are a key concern of the Council of Europe.

3. Creationism, born of the denial of the evolution of species through natural selection, was for a long time an almost exclusively American phenomenon. Today creationist ideas are tending to find their way into Europe and their spread is affecting quite a few Council of Europe member states.

4. The prime target of present-day creationists, most of whom are of the Christian or Muslim faith, is education. Creationists are bent on ensuring that their ideas are included in the school science syllabuses. Creationism cannot, however, lay claim to being a scientific discipline.

5. Creationists question the scientific character of certain areas of knowledge and argue that the theory of evolution is only one interpretation among others. They accuse scientists of not providing enough evidence to establish the theory of evolution as scientifically valid. On the contrary, creationists defend their own statements as scientific. None of this stands up to objective analysis.

6. We are witnessing a growth of modes of thought which challenge established knowledge about nature, evolution, our origins and our place in the universe.

7. There is a real risk of serious confusion being introduced into our children’s minds between what has to do with convictions, beliefs, ideals of all sorts and what has to do with science. An “all things are equal” attitude may seem appealing and tolerant, but is in fact dangerous.

8. Creationism has many contradictory aspects. The “intelligent design” idea, which is the latest, more refined version of creationism, does not deny a certain degree of evolution. However, intelligent design, presented in a more subtle way, seeks to portray its approach as scientific, and therein lies the danger.

9. The Assembly has constantly insisted that science is of fundamental importance. Science has made possible considerable improvements in living and working conditions and is a rather significant factor in economic, technological and social development. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with divine revelation but is built on facts.

10. Creationism claims to be based on scientific rigour. In reality the methods employed by creationists are of three types: purely dogmatic assertions; distorted use of scientific quotations, sometimes illustrated with magnificent photographs; and backing from more or less well-known scientists, most of whom are not specialists in these matters. By these means creationists seek to appeal to non-specialists and spread doubt and confusion in their minds.

11. Evolution is not simply a matter of the evolution of humans and of populations. Denying it could have serious consequences for the development of our societies. Advances in medical research, aiming at combating infectious diseases such as Aids, are impossible if every principle of evolution is denied. One cannot be fully aware of the risks involved in the significant decline in biodiversity and climate change if the mechanisms of evolution are not understood.

12. Our modern world is based on a long history, of which the development of science and technology forms an important part. However, the scientific approach is still not well understood and this is liable to encourage the development of all manner of fundamentalism and extremism. The total rejection of science is definitely one of the most serious threats to human and civic rights.

13. The war on the theory of evolution and on its proponents most often originates in forms of religious extremism closely linked to extreme right-wing political movements. The creationist movements possess real political power. The fact of the matter, and this has been exposed on several occasions, is that some advocates of strict creationism are out to replace democracy by theocracy.

14. All leading representatives of the main monotheistic religions have adopted a much more moderate attitude. Pope Benedict XVI, for example, as his predecessor Pope John-Paul II, today praises the role of science in the evolution of humanity and recognises that the theory of evolution is “more than a hypothesis”.

15. The teaching of all phenomena concerning evolution as a fundamental scientific theory is therefore crucial to the future of our societies and our democracies. For that reason it must occupy a central position in the curriculums, and especially in the science syllabuses, as long as, like any other theory, it is able to stand up to thorough scientific scrutiny. Evolution is present everywhere, from medical overprescription of antibiotics that encourages the emergence of resistant bacteria to agricultural overuse of pesticides that causes insect mutations on which pesticides no longer have any effect.

16. The Council of Europe has highlighted the importance of teaching about culture and religion. In the name of freedom of expression and individual belief, creationist ideas, as any other theological position, could possibly be presented as an addition to cultural and religious education, but they cannot claim scientific respectability.

17. Science provides irreplaceable training in intellectual rigour. It seeks not to explain “why things are” but to understand how they work.

18. Investigation of the creationists’ growing influence shows that the arguments between creationism and evolution go well beyond intellectual debate. If we are not careful, the values that are the very essence of the Council of Europe will be under direct threat from creationist fundamentalists. It is part of the role of the Council of Europe’s parliamentarians to react before it is too late.

19. The Parliamentary Assembly therefore urges the member states, and especially their education authorities to:

19.1. defend and promote scientific knowledge;

19.2. strengthen the teaching of the foundations of science, its history, its epistemology and its methods alongside the teaching of objective scientific knowledge;

19.3. make science more comprehensible, more attractive and closer to the realities of the contemporary world;

19.4. firmly oppose the teaching of creationism as a scientific discipline on an equal footing with the theory of evolution and in general the presentation of creationist ideas in any discipline other than religion;

19.5. promote the teaching of evolution as a fundamental scientific theory in the school curriculums.

20. The Assembly welcomes the fact that 27 academies of science of Council of Europe member states signed, in June 2006, a declaration on the teaching of evolution and calls on academies of science that have not yet done so to sign the declaration.

from: http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=/Documents/AdoptedText/ta07/ERES1580.htm#1


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 2009/12/15 23:34Profile
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 Re: EU Resolution 1580 (2007) The dangers of creationism in education

I think this speaks so much, it is a very open document that show how "threatening" they view christianity to their 2way of life". I think Paul Washer speaks the truth when he says:

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The Church in America (not just) will going to suffer so terribly. We laugh now, but they will come after us, they will come after our children, they will close the net around us, while we are playing games and we are arguing upon so many little things, the net even now is closing around you, around your children and your grandchildren and it does not cause you to fear. You will be isolated from society as it is already happened. Anyone who runs for office, who actually believes the bible, will be considered as lunatic, until finally we are silenced


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hmmhmm wrote:


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The Church in America (not just) will going to suffer so terribly. We laugh now, but they will come after us, they will come after our children, they will close the net around us, while we are playing games and we are arguing upon so many little things, the net even now is closing around you, around your children and your grandchildren and it does not cause you to fear. You will be isolated from society as it is already happened. Anyone who runs for office, who actually believes the bible, will be considered as lunatic, until finally we are silenced




What Washer sermon was this taken from? I would like to listen/read it.

Thanks brother


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Miccah wrote:

hmmhmm wrote:


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The Church in America (not just) will going to suffer so terribly. We laugh now, but they will come after us, they will come after our children, they will close the net around us, while we are playing games and we are arguing upon so many little things, the net even now is closing around you, around your children and your grandchildren and it does not cause you to fear. You will be isolated from society as it is already happened. Anyone who runs for office, who actually believes the bible, will be considered as lunatic, until finally we are silenced




What Washer sermon was this taken from? I would like to listen/read it.

Thanks brother



here you go brother
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7UyZYpeReY]Paul Washer Q&A session[/url]


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 Re: EU Resolution 1580 (2007) The dangers of creationism in education

That is a fascinating article. And while I do not wish to come off as entirely sympathetic, there are a few particular concerns that I would agree with. It does not bother me one bit if the secular world should seek to separate itself from teaching metaphysical (ie. spiritual / religious) truths. For example, when the article stated, "17. Science provides irreplaceable training in intellectual rigour. It seeks not to explain 'why things are' but to understand how they work." However, the rather deceptive way the author(s) of this paper failed to mention that "evolution as a fundamental scientific theory" is presupposed upon the very denial and rejection of the existence of God and of the idea of the sacred; therefore, it is by definition a naturalistic explanation of "why things are." Not unlike how Atheism is recognized as a religion.


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 Re: EU Resolution 1580 (2007) The dangers of creationism in education

I think this will have implications for home-schoolers too.

The freedom of the Western world as we know it is being lost step by step, resolution by resolution. All in the "best interest" of humanity.

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Well, you have to hand it to the social engineers. They have managed such a brilliant media campaign over 8 decades, that now, children whose great-grandparents knew God and the Bible, are being asked to believe science is more true than the Truth, and that the Truth is to be suspected as fiction.

Indeed, when Erasmus revived fideism during the CounterReformation, he did a great disservice to all believers in every following generation.

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Science and religion is irrenconciable but not true science and God and true christianity. Secularists, agnostics and atheists show as much fanatism for their hypotheses as any religious groups.

Evolution is not based on a fact but on a belief. Evolusionists can't explain how out of nothing matter was created and the universe came into existence (big bang theory the most famous).The can't prove their theory and speculations. According to the first law of thermodynamics, there should exist energy before anything to come to existence or creation. If evolution denies pre-existing energy before creation of universe, we christians know that that "energy" is not just a force, a thing or impersonal but it's God Almighty Himself the cause of Universe.

Evolution is not synonymous with true science. True science will never contradict with God, as the bible which is a devine revelation will not contradict the book of nature because they have the same Authour, God.

Why there is so much antigonism from the science world and academics against God? for the simple fact that God is not God of philosophers or scientists but God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. He is a God who reveals himself to the humble and to the one who believes in his Son. Christianity is a revelation not a science. We dont find God by scientific methods and experiments or knowledge, we find God thru faith in a revealed fact and person. Faith is beyond reason but is does not contradict reason.

We don't find God by the faculty of reason, we find God by faith and faith has an object-Jesus Christ who is the way to the Father.

Nitche the german philosopher, Darwin the father of evolution, and the manifesto of Karl Marx did more damage to modern civilisation and the 20th century than any other system, ideology or philosophy of modern times. Think of Hitler, Stalin, Mao Ce Dun and other totalitarian regimes and all the millions killed because few men rejected judeo christian values and the God of the bible.

This is the crises of post modern man he is lost in his own universe of illusion and deception. He beleives to be good what is bad and true what is lie and light what is dark.

The wise ,the powerful, the rich, the great, the noble all will be lost and never find God unless they search Him with a childlike faith and simplicity and sincerity. If God reveals Himself to the wise and only to the intelligent, than he would have been a very partial God. He reveals himself to a heart that diligently seeks him in truth and he will reveal his Son to those who believe.

Even science in itself is progresive and not absolute, it knows only a tiny little bit of the immense and mysterious universe of God. We know about gravity, relativity and other few physical laws but how much ignorant we are of those undiscovered natural laws that only God knows who make them.

Post modern man wants to outlaw christianity and God because he wants to be not responsible to a Supper Inteligent Personal Power and Being (who is God), before whom he has to be accountable for his life and sins. If there be any religion for post modern man it whould be without morals, without Christ, without judgment, without good and wrong. His religion that he loves crowns him as god of himself with full independence and sovereign of his life.

Europe is reviving its old empire and its old pagan philosophies and laws and preparig the way for antichrit.

Blessings,
Redi

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I have to say again, in David Wilkerson's book, "The Vision", it states that, Europe will become the more anti God than any continent in the world.

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 Re: EU Resolution 1580 (2007) The dangers of creationism in education

To elected,

I appreciated your post very much, thanks.


Isaiah 5
20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe unto [i]them that are[/i] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! 22 Woe unto [i]them that are[/i] mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: 23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, [i]so[/i] their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

25 Therefore is the anger of the LORD kindled against his people, and he hath stretched forth his hand against them, and hath smitten them: and the hills did tremble, and their carcases [i]were[/i] torn in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand [i]is[/i] stretched out still.

26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly: 27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken: 28 Whose arrows [i]are[/i] sharp, and all their bows bent, their horses' hoofs shall be counted like flint, and their wheels like a whirlwind: 29 Their roaring [i]shall be[/i] like a lion, they shall roar like young lions: yea, they shall roar, and lay hold of the prey, and shall carry [i]it[/i] away safe, and none shall deliver [i]it[/i]. 30 And in that day they shall roar against them like the roaring of the sea: and if [i]one[/i] look unto the land, behold darkness [i]and[/i] sorrow, and the light is darkened in the heavens thereof.

 2009/12/21 11:48





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