IglueAsp, are you looking for Godly council, or do you want the opinions of men, or are you just wanting to find like minded individuals that will agree with your position? I truly am confused on to what your intentions are.
Here are some questions about how we can apply the command to love our neighbor as ourselves.-----I think we should know whether defending the unborn is loving our neighbor as ourselves or not.-----I hope you will be patient with the number of questions I have. I simply see getting to the bottom of these questions as being the most important goal of my studying this matter.-----I'm only trying to sift through people's objections.-----...I [was] just asking questions. I didn't mean to do anymore than just discuss whether it is right or wrong and deal with various objections. My intention has not been to promote anything except understanding the truth.-----I think it is important to understand whether people in general should defend the born and unborn EQUALLY or not. If not, there must be some great reason for the difference.-----For clarification: I have not been promoting using violence against abortionists as some people have assumed.-----I'm just asking a bunch of questions because I don't have all the answers.
You seem to hold to a "force IS allowed" defense for protecting the unborn.
I am trying to figure out where in scripture you are getting the idea that using force for protecting the unborn is allowed.
The quickest way to get me to shut up, is to quote some scripture, and show me what our Lord said on this matter.
A short story of what happened.I was out in my neighbourhood praying and walking. When nearing my house I hear the sound of a fight. As I approach I can see people looking out of there windows, as well as some men viewing two woman fist fighting one of the men watching was the boyfriend to the one of the woman.As I got near another man was standing watching the fight, I asked him who it was and he told there names and then proceeded to tell me one of them was 3 months pregnant. I looked over at the pregnant womans boyfriend who was doing nothing but watching the fight, I stated to him she is pregnant and he shrugged his shoulders.Without any thought or fear I walked into the middle of the fight and took hold of the woman who was pregnant and was getting a beating and gathered her into my chest. I then turned around to get away from the blows that the other woman was still regiening down on her.With my other hand I held her back and said very frimly to her that this woman is pregnant and the fight needs to stop her reply was "I was only hitting here head"I got her away from the scene and into my house where my wife cleaned up her face, from there we got her to the hospital for a check up.This was me defending a unborn child there was a risk to myself as the men watching could have turned on me, I didn't care I was going to stop it even if I was going to take a beating in the process.Was I right or was I wrong?By the way it was a boy and she named him Carl.
Hi murrcolr...Wow, I experienced something similar when I was a teenager! I think that what you did was right in the sight of God. In addition, what you did was not [i]illegal[/i] (as what would be true of a person who injured or killed an abortionist).
murrcolr wrote:By the way it was a boy and she named him Carl.
I mistakenly started a thread rather than a response to this one. anyway, it isn't a bad one. His grace is sufficient..one down. tom