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[b]Europe swine flu spreads, 'millions' infected in US[/b]


Swine flu is spreading faster and claiming new fatalities in Europe, health officials said, as the global death toll from the virus rose to nearly 5,000 victims and the US said millions had been infected.

Since the A(H1N1) virus was uncovered in April, there have been over 4,735 deaths reported to the World Health Organisation as of a week ago, the WHO said.

Most of the fatal cases -- 3,539 -- have been recorded in North and South America, the UN health agency said in its latest update on the flu pandemic.

A top US health official said Friday swine flu had infected "many millions" and killed over 1,000 people in the United States since the outbreak began six months ago. ...

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 2009/10/26 6:53Profile
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 Re: Europe swine flu spreads, 'millions' infected in US

So much media hype over this swine flu. The media is either very concerned and afraid of this, or they are promoting/hyping it and the vaccine to stop it. Let's see, one to six billion+ vaccines per year at $10-$50+/vaccine...

Well, if the death rate does go over two percent/flu season and all of the world's population does get infected, we could be looking at a pestilence of biblical proportions. Could this be a judgement?

One more thing...[b]Is there any proof[/b] that a flu shot actually stops you from getting the flu?


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Earendel wrote:

One more thing...[b]Is there any proof[/b] that a flu shot actually stops you from getting the flu?



Yes.


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About 250,000 - 300,000 people die per day.

Calculations:

7 billion people on earth.
Average life expectancy is about 66.12 years ~ 24150 days

7 billion people / 24150 days is just less than 300k

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5000 people died from a 'national emergency epidemic.' Oh no... :-o


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Hi IWantAnguish...

Those 5000 people who have died are in ADDITION to those who would have died anyway. More importantly, the concern is not that 5000 people will die. What makes it a "national emergency" is the time that it took for this particular strain to spread...and how difficult it is to treat. The concern amongst medical researchers is that this strain of influenza is extremely resilient to treatment...and that it could mutate into something much more deadly.

This is the [u]same[/u] strain of influenza that mutated into the 1918 influenza pandemic. 1/3 of the entire population of the world contracted that strain of the flu...and 1 out of every 10 of those infected actually died.

While we might sarcastically say "[i]Oh no[/i]" because of 5000 deaths, it wouldn't be so funny if it were someone that you know. There are different strains of the flu that hit every year. This just happens to be a particularly resilient strain...and one that has the opportunity to mutate. What's more, there is a PROVEN, inexpensive vaccine that can effectively prevent this strain of influenza.


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We're all going to die.

Honestly, the death of someone I knew would not devastate me unless I knew they went to hell.

Even then, I would be able to trust that God would grant me the grace to come to terms with the sovereignty of God, and know that they went to hell for His glory.

It's not about people, it's about God.


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Hi IWantAnguish...

That is perfectly fine for you. Besides, I agree with most of the underlying principles of what you are saying. Eternal life is far more important than physical life.

At the same time, I don't [u]want[/u] my wife or family to physically die. Didn't this desire spark compassion in the eyes of Jesus as he healed the sick and raised the dead? Besides, I am (as a man) responsible for providing for the needs of my family...or I "have denied the faith" and am "worse than an infidel" (I Timothy 5:8).

Now, I am praying for my family. However, I am also praying for my family AND taking physical measures to provide for their physical welfare. This one vaccine is proven to effectively prevent this strain of the swine flu (including a future mutation of the same strain). I personally feel that it is a small measure that goes a long way. While I believe and realize that God can protect my family, I still lock the doors of my home at night.


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 Re: Europe swine flu spreads, 'millions' infected in US

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The death rate from the pandemic H1N1 swine flu is likely lower than earlier estimates, an expert in infectious diseases said on Wednesday.

New estimates suggest that the death rate compares to a moderate year of seasonal influenza, said Dr Marc Lipsitch of Harvard University.

"It's mildest in kids. That's one of the really good pieces of news in this pandemic," Lipsitch told a meeting of flu experts being held by the U.S. Institute of Medicine.

"Barring any changes in the virus, I think we can say we are in a category 1 pandemic. This has not become clear until fairly recently."

The Pandemic Severity Index set by the U.S. government has five categories of pandemic, with a category 1 being comparable to a seasonal flu epidemic.

Seasonal flu has a death rate of less than 0.1 percent -- but still manages to kill 250,000 to 500,000 people globally every year.

A category 5 pandemic would compare to the 1918 flu pandemic, which had an estimated death rate of 2 percent or more, and would kill tens of million of people.

Lipsitch took information from around the world on how many people had reported they had influenza-like illness, which may or may not actually be influenza; government reports of actual hospitalizations and confirmed deaths.

He came up with a range of mortality from swine flu, from 0.007 percent to 0.045 percent.

Either way, having new information about how many people were infected and did not become severely ill or die makes the pandemic look very mild, he said.

"The news is certainly better than it was in May and even better than it was at the beginning of August," Lipsitch said.

H1N1 swine flu was declared a pandemic in June after flashing around the world in six weeks. Experts all said a true death rate would not be clear for weeks because it is impossible to test every patient and because people with mild cases may never be diagnosed.

This lack of information made the epidemics in various countries and cities look worse at first than they actually were, Lipsitch said. People sick enough to be hospitalized are almost always tested first.

"Yes, there's been hype, but I don't think it's been an outrageous amount of hype," Lipsitch said.

Seasonal flu is usually far worse among the elderly, who make up 90 percent of the deaths every year. In contrast, this flu is attacking younger adults and older children, but they are not dying of it at the same rate as the elderly, Lipsitch said.


[url=http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE58E6NZ20090916]source[/url]


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