Poster | Thread | wind_blows Member

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| Re: | | Hi ccchhhrrriiisss
Can I ask you when you answered back to her and said "Wow" were you trying to be mocking of her or was it a genuine response of "wow" I never heard of that before?
The young man that I am wanting to share with has a habit of trying to be funny with his peers as well people in authority over him, and there is a time and place for goofing off and having fun but he sometimes comes across as if he is mocking and that is not ok. There have been times when some have tried to tell him to not use certain kinds of language and he just kinds of makes a joke of it.
Anyway its actually harder then I thought it would be to explain because I want to be sensitive to others and the words I use in explaining this as well. Thanks though for your input.
your little sis in Him Elizabeth |
| 2009/10/18 1:33 | Profile | jmooney6 Member

Joined: 2009/9/2 Posts: 60
| Re: | | To Brother Ccchhhrrriiisss,
Can you teach us more about what the pastor's wife told you exactly about those words? I learned today that substitute swears are bad (and realized a parallel between that and what Sister Ginny said about CCM), but I didn't think "wow", "cool", and "neat" could be bad. Help me understand. :-) Is this the "vain babbling" that I Timothy 6:20 warns against?! :-?
I can't imagine how horrible Peter felt after the Matthew 26:74 denial, where he used profane language, denying the one and only Christ Himself! Talk about a moment of weakness.
Another thing we must remind ourselves is how powerful our tongues are. God's tongue is the most powerful force there is. He spake into existence [i]EVERYTHING[/i], and after Christ's Millennial reign, when Satan and the people foolish enough to choose him instead of Christ (who will be here IN PERSON) rise up against Him, Christ will destroy them all with His words! I guess "wow", "cool", and "neat" are vain babblings. I need to get even more sensitive to the Holy Spirit than I currently am. He explained to us the power of faith, that if we spoke to a mountain "go into the sea" and have no doubt, it can be done. Of course, I don't think He's talking about a literal mountain, no, rather, I believe He means to have A LOT of faith in Him and also a reference to how powerful our tongues are.
Now it's time for me to thank God for this revelation and pray hard that no idle word ever leaves my lips again! That's right, He said we'll be judged by every idle word that leaves our mouths. :-? God bless you Brothers and Sisters. :-) _________________ Jim
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| 2009/10/18 1:53 | Profile | ccchhhrrriiisss Member

Joined: 2003/11/23 Posts: 4779
| Re: | | Hi Elizabeth,
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Can I ask you when you answered back to her and said "Wow" were you trying to be mocking of her or was it a genuine response of "wow" I never heard of that before?
This was very much a genuine response. I wouldn't have thought of mocking this elderly pastor's wife. Looking back, however, I thought that my response was funny given the circumstance. Words like "wow" and "cool" had always been a part of my vernacular.
I hope that makes sense.
I think that we should avoid profane speech. We should also be sensitive to the views of others. However, I think that we should also avoid feeling like we are in bondage to someone else's whims of rhetorical holiness. Come to think of it, I still use words like "wow," "cool" and "neat" every now and then.
:-) _________________ Christopher
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| 2009/10/18 4:04 | Profile | sermonindex Moderator

Joined: 2002/12/11 Posts: 39795 Canada
Online! | Re: | | Oh my goodness
Oh my word
Oh my GOSH
are phrases I heard over 100-1000 times a day when I am around "christians" at the bible college here.
We need revival brothers and sisters.
_________________ SI Moderator - Greg Gordon
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| 2009/10/18 8:47 | Profile | twayneb Member

Joined: 2009/4/5 Posts: 2256 Joplin, Missouri
| Re: | | Elizabeth, thanks for the topic. I believe that the language is the outwardly expressed symptom of what is going on in the heart. It is probably not so much that your friend has a language problem, but a heart problem. Sounds to me like his real problem is that he values the opinion of man more than he values God. How many of us have been there in one way or another? (I am raising my own hand on this one.)
I was raised to believe that darn is the same as d--n, that crap is the same as s--t, etc. I have never left that. I appreciate Christians who have a strong desire to let their yes be yes, their no be no, and not embelish their language with profanity of any kind. (Just a side thought that passed through my mind. Gossip, backbiting, and the like are profane are they not?)
Anyway, it sounded to me like the issue was so much deeper than simply substituting one word for another. Fear of man is a problem that will shut down what God wants to do in your life. It makes you serve man rather than God.
On the other hand, I do hope the post makes us pause for a minute and hear what we say rather than just saying it. _________________ Travis
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| 2009/10/18 8:57 | Profile |
| Re: | | Next time you swing that hammer and miss the nail and hit your thumb what kind of colourful words come out of your mouth. Depending on your state of mind, if it's been a good day, most likely something that I have said from time to time, "Oh LORD I hit my thumb, thank you Jesus". But if you had a fight with the wife, and the day has been against you and frustrating, something else may proceed that when said (@#$%&) will feel justified (YEAH!!), but later on feel terrible.
Been there done that! :-P |
| 2009/10/18 12:51 | | Leo_Grace Member

Joined: 2009/6/14 Posts: 703
| Re: | | Col 3:7-10 [b]You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips[/b]. Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. |
| 2009/10/18 23:38 | Profile | elharris Member

Joined: 2009/8/10 Posts: 59
| Re: | | Quote:
Can you teach us more about what the pastor's wife told you exactly about those words? I learned today that substitute swears are bad (and realized a parallel between that and what Sister Ginny said about CCM), but I didn't think "wow", "cool", and "neat" could be bad. Help me understand. Is this the "vain babbling" that I Timothy 6:20 warns against?!
1 Tim 6:20 20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: 21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.
Profane and vain babblings, were the teachings of Greek Philosophy, warned of also in Col 2:8.
Specifically those areas of Greek Philosophy that dealth with what we would call today "textual criticism". These were interpretive systems used on the "pagan" Greek scriptures, like Homer's Illiad and Odesey and other Greek Prophet (poets).
In Plato's republic it was called "theology" for the first time. And in Aristotles Metaphysics this same "theology" was called "the mother of sciences".
Paul said it was not a true science, but a science falsely so called. Which some "professing" or "practicing" on and applying to the scriptures had erred concerning the truth.
It is in reality mentioned all over the letters of Paul, when every world wisdom is referred to.
Christianity however did not take heed and adopted this same "theology" which originated in Greek pagan philosophy and has for 2000 years now taught it in all the schools as a viable means of scripture interpretation.
And this is why we are so "messed" up and constantly blown around with every wind of doctrine, through the theological systems of men who lie in wait to deceive us with their "Bible Study "helps", hermeneutics, and systematized theologies.
That is "vain babblins". Just find yourself some writings by any theologian, and there you have it. Vain and profain babblings and oppositions of science falsely so called.
And wow, cool and neat are not bad. That is NUTS, CRAZY, INSANE, religious control freak stuff. I can't believe someone would even think that....then again, yeah I can. I'm sure they'll come up with some systemized theological work to prove the Bible teaches that...somewhere.
Regards,
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| 2009/10/21 0:59 | Profile | hmmhmm Member

Joined: 2006/1/31 Posts: 4994 Sweden
| Re: | | i am wondering something, in sweden, the devil has accomplished the thing of making some words that are biblical into prophane words. Just as your ordinary genital curse words, some words from scripture has the same "attitude" and force when spoken. So how do we approach this? for instance, the word hell in swedish is considered a curse word, just as the other common words people use to express their rage, dislike or whatever. Actually once i was sharing from scripture in a meeting, and afterwords the pastor came up and asked me not to use such words since they are considered to be "bad" by most people, i said well Jesus used that word?..... but since i take this approach, many are offended, its no is so much that it is biblical, i can offend for reading scripture, but it saddens me that it offends many older people, as somehow the view it as one is cursing when saying this word.
So even tho i dont think it is a sin to use the word hell, in its proper place, i have found that it is best to use many times other words, to not let this thing hinder the truth to come forth and the cultural thing becomes a stumbling block so to say. Mostly i would use "eternal destruction" , "damnation" etc.
But still i am quite grieved it has become so, that words used by our lord is becoming profanity, i remember that movie, "time changer" when he goes into the cinema with the church to catch a movie and he comes running out in chock and screams "stop the movie! they are blaspheming the Lords name! stop the movie!"
for the other christians it was not so a big thing.... i still remember that scene. How Christianity has changed.... _________________ CHRISTIAN
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| 2009/10/21 5:27 | Profile | ginnyrose Member

Joined: 2004/7/7 Posts: 7534 Mississippi
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that no idle word ever leaves my lips again! That's right, He said we'll be judged by every idle word that leaves our mouths
This alone should sober us into praying that the LORD would set a watch on my lips! Psalm 141:3.
ginnyrose _________________ Sandra Miller
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