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TaylorOtwell Member

Joined: 2006/6/19 Posts: 927 Arkansas
| Re: | | GinnyRose,
But not all CCM is repetitive. Many songs have different scenarios for each verse and present different teachings in each verse.
So, no, I don't see the difference.
Just for the record, this is coming from someone who isn't really a fan of CCM. I actually would prefer to just sing a capella Psalms in worship. I just appreciate consistent arguments for positions that are defended as truth, as hope to help others refine their arguments.
With care in Christ... _________________ Taylor Otwell
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2009/10/14 18:03 | Profile |
ginnyrose Member

Joined: 2004/7/7 Posts: 7534 Mississippi
| Re: | | Taylor, Just why are you no fan of CCM?
I have the sense we are not communicating well.
ginnyrose _________________ Sandra Miller
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2009/10/14 18:14 | Profile |
TaylorOtwell Member

Joined: 2006/6/19 Posts: 927 Arkansas
| Re: | | I don't like most CCM because the lyrics aren't very rich. However, there are exceptions, such as "In Christ Alone".
It just seemed like the article about repetition was being used to show a reason why CCM is bad, and I don't think that is a good avenue to take because in the process it would fault almost all hymns and metrical psalms.
With care in Christ... _________________ Taylor Otwell
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2009/10/14 19:17 | Profile |
ginnyrose Member

Joined: 2004/7/7 Posts: 7534 Mississippi
| Re: | | Taylor,
I have been thinking a lot since I read your post and decided we may be talking about two different forms, similar but different.
Praise music: most of it is David's Psalms set to music. This came to the fore in the past 30 years, perhaps. If I recall the 'Jesus People' made this popular.
Modern CCM is a take off of rock music. It is marked by heavy drum use and loud noise, so loud it would damage your hearing if exposed to it too much. If you are not used to it it could drive you crazy. It is very fleshy; most of this 'music' is led by 'worship teams' which is performer driven. Oftentimes their music is so loud you cannot hear yourself sing. The leader will use it to drum up praise to the Almighty, "Sing louder!" This music is marked by repetition - one line repeated several times and then that verse sung many times. My mind goes to what Jesus had to say about vain repetition.
The spirit of scripture dealing with this issue is that music should honor, glorify God. One can easily sense God's pleasure in the music. If you go to a church house where this music is being played there is such an irritation in our spirit, making one wish we would not have to be there - the only reason we are is because we are visiting family that go there.
My thoughts...
ginnyrose _________________ Sandra Miller
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2009/10/14 21:02 | Profile |
TaylorOtwell Member

Joined: 2006/6/19 Posts: 927 Arkansas
| Re: | | GinnyRose,
For the most part, I agree with you. For public worship, I believe certain musical forms best convey the weightiness and seriousness of the music. Personally, it is my conviction that it is best to sing Spirit-inspired songs (Scripture songs, or Psalms) a capella, because I believe this transcends all musical preferences, cultures, and ages. But, that is perhaps beyond the scope of this discussion.
I am less dogmatic about what one listens to in their personal time, so long as the lyrics are not sinful.
With care in Christ... _________________ Taylor Otwell
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2009/10/14 21:11 | Profile |
ginnyrose Member

Joined: 2004/7/7 Posts: 7534 Mississippi
| Re: | | Taylor,
I was showing my husband my 'conversation' with you, reading out loud when I noticed something...this is what I missed in our conversation: "there is 1 tune for 4-6 verses and that tune is repeated exactly for each verse." It is the word 'tune'. I was reading it 'words"! Oh. Sigh. And I was responding accordingly. SIGH.
Thanks for your patience...
ginnyrose
_________________ Sandra Miller
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2009/10/14 21:45 | Profile |
TaylorOtwell Member

Joined: 2006/6/19 Posts: 927 Arkansas
| Re: | | GinnyRose,
No problem. I'm sure I need even more patience extended towards me.
With care in Christ... _________________ Taylor Otwell
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2009/10/14 21:54 | Profile |
ginnyrose Member

Joined: 2004/7/7 Posts: 7534 Mississippi
| Re: Christian Rock music: Wolf or Sheep | | In doing a search on the web "Rock music addictive" I find a lot of info that says it indeed is. In my search I found many worthy articles. For some I am am reluctant to post their link because I know so little about the writers and I do not have the time to check out the other stuff they promote on their site. If there is questionable ideas promoted it could well be it would discredit whatever good there may be. And that is the risk one takes for recommending any article or link.
Having said all this, there is one recurring theme in all of the articles I have read, so it appears the basic points are accepted as fact.
The more I read about the addiction quality of rock music, the more I am beginning to understand why my young relatives are involved in the lifestyle they are: they are addicted to rock music! Now, if only I could convince their parents of the seriousness of it, but they are so blind and ignorant, some by choice because knowledge will make demands that are not pleasant.
Here is a link that might teach you: http://www.scribd.com/doc/14047098/Christian-Rock-Music-Wolf-or-Sheep
Blessings, ginnyrose _________________ Sandra Miller
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2009/10/16 15:10 | Profile |