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 ...the things concerning himself. Luke 24

When we liken the prophets, priests and kings of the Old Testament to New Testament believers, we rob the Word of its Power, and thus; we rob the people of God of a true revelation their Christ and the power of the Gospel He came to fulfill.

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. - Jesus

 2009/9/11 14:17
Logic
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 Re: ...the things concerning himself. Luke 24

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Mahoney wrote:
When we liken the prophets, priests and kings of the Old Testament to New Testament believers, we rob the Word of its Power, and thus; we rob the people of God of a true revelation their Christ and the power of the Gospel He came to fulfill.

How so?

I'm not disagreeing, but can not see how you come to this conclusion.

 2009/9/11 14:19Profile









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Well, I give one example:

For years when I heard the story of David and Goliath I always heard it preached (and I read it as) David was a type of a true believer who trusts in His God and stands up to the enemies of God; as opposed to Saul who is "backslidden" and full of unbelief,and so on...

But, if we interpret the scripture as Jesus did, that the Old Testament spoke of Him. We see the King of Israel in David. The Annointed One (the Christ, Messaiah) chosen of God, coming down out of obscurity into the valley to defeat the enemies of God. He not only defeated the enemy for the Glory of God, but He saved the people of God. His victory was their victory, for he caused them, by His victory, to remain in the land...in their inheritance.

Thanks be to God who gives us the victory!

If we liken David to a faithful new testament believer...we rob ourselves of the Gospel... the power of God.


 2009/9/11 14:51
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Okay, I get what your saying.
Moses was a tipe of Christ, not a tipe of Christian.

However, we ar suposed to be like Christ.
What if we look at them, at first as Christ, then imitate them as we are to imitate Christ.

 2009/9/11 15:10Profile
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Mahoney wrote:
But, if we interpret the scripture as Jesus did, that the Old Testament spoke of Him.



That's a very good insight, Mahoney. Thanks for this!

Here's another verse along the same line.

"These things said Isaiah, when he saw His glory, and [b]spake of Him[/b]" (Jn. 12.41).

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 2009/9/11 20:10Profile









 Re: ...the things concerning himself. Luke 24

Hi Mahoney,

Your general point is excellent. I grew up in 'church', but it was a long long time before I realised how wrong it is to think of the OT saints as 'Christians'. It is sloppy thinking, and leads to considerable confusion, and, as you imply, it obscures the glory of the New Covenant.

These days, the mixture of Old and New which besieges the average Christian certainly robs them of the many differences made by the teachings of Jesus Christ, recorded for us in scripture.

Recently, I've been challenged to take these far more literally than ever it crossed my mind to do, in the past.

 2009/9/14 10:47





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