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 Persecution! Mayhem, murder and orgy in mexico...prayer needed.

There is a brother in Mexico I communicate with who does gospel work; Showing the Jesus film to indigenous tribes, witnessing and tract distribution etc.


I saw a article about trouble in Mexico,

EDIT: ARTICLE REMOVED FROM INTERNET...had Catholic carnival expose'....
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news〈=en&length=long&idelement=6073

and sent it to him, and he asked me to post it here at SI, along with his response to me. There are other issues than the awful drug war there. It seems that a satanic spirit is marauding the land..... and persecution from Babylon too.


His name is Robert Taylor. He has a family with him, and often works alone.




--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Robert Taylor wrote:


From: Robert Taylor
Subject: Re: Persecution!
To: "Thomas Watkins"

Brother Tom
This Catholic "Religious" festival is a once a year thing that takes place every year allover mexico. It is the most blasphemous thing i have ever wittnessed. It is nothing but a drunken orgey. There are enough beer cans on the streets that the poor people make enough money to support thier families for a while by picking them up and selling them for scrap. There are half naked girls dancing on the streets to ungodly music. The people go to the bathroom right in front of my house, i mean they literally poop on the street right in front of my house during this ungodly week. I was driving through the midst of all the revelry during this last "Holy Week" as they call it, i had to go through it in order to get somewhere, as i looked upon all the drunks everywhere, and the naked girls dancing on the street, i said, "I wonder what the Lord thinks about all of this" and just as i said those words there was a few drops of water that fell out of the sky and hit my wind shield. I took it as a sign from the Lord that it was tears he was shedding over it.
My family and i, pass out the books of John and Romans to these people during this time, and as of right now we have not been attacked in a violent manner. But it is only a matter of time until it will happen. The only reason it hasn´t happened yet, is simply because the Catholic big wigs havn´t caught us yet. It is only a matter of time until we put the word of God into the wrong hands and that is when they will come down on us. But, Praise the Lord, we will work until Jesus comes. My mission is based here in the state of Sonora, but we do a lot of work over in the state of Chihuahua also. The Lord used us to plant a church over there a few years ago, and i still go back and minister to them from time to time. I just got a call from them last week requesting me to come and preach for them, which i will be doing in the very near future. That little group of people are in an area where this same drunken fiesta murdered 2 missionaries several years back before we got there.
To answer your question brother Tom. It has not affected us as far as hindering our work up to this point. But persicution is picking up steam every day down here, and i understand in other parts of the world as well. But as i said before, "We will keep on keeping on until Jesus comes". Keep us in prayer down here.....Robert

Brother Tom. I am computer illiterate, and don´t know how to post things on the internet like you do. I would like to share the article you sent, along with my reply back to you with the ......forum. I would like to ask you if you will post both the article that you sent, and my reply to you on the fourm, merely as a means to awake peoples awareness to what is going on in the world, and to remind people to keep us in prayer at all times. If you feel uncomfortable doing this, i completely understand, and it is no problem. Thanks.

--- On Sun, 8/23/09, Thomas Watkins wrote:


From: Thomas Watkins
Subject: Persecution!
To: "Robert Taylor"



Is this affecting you? how are things?...write me..tom


http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news〈=en&length=long&idelement=6073...EDIT: ARTICLE REMOVED FROM INTERNET...[ CATHOLIC CARNIVAL AND VIOLENCE EXPOSED...]

 2009/9/6 10:44









 Re: Persecution! Mayhem, murder and orgy in mexico...prayer needed.

I will pray for this brother and his labor's of love!

 2009/9/6 11:00
rainydaygirl
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Hey
I will pray for this family. I have some small understanding of what they are talking about with these kinds of festivals. Not far from where I live they hold the annual burning man event. Its the same kind of debauchery. What is really heart breaking is how many little children are brought along to these kinds of events. What they are exposed to is sick. I will pray for this man I could not even imagine having those kinds of things go on right outside your home.

with care
rdg

 2009/9/6 13:13Profile









 - with prayers.


[url=http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:eYQsdo86lGYJ:www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php%3Fpage%3Dnews%26lang%3Den%26length%3Dlong%26idelement%3D6073+idelement%3D6073&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us][b]MEXICO: ‘TRADITIONALIST CATHOLICS’ ATTACK, EXPEL CHRISTIANS[/b][/url]

Evangelicals in two states lose homes, crops for refusing to participate in religious revelry.

MEXICO CITY, August 19 (Compass Direct News) – “Traditionalist Catholic” leaders last month expelled 57 evangelical Christians from towns in two states for refusing to participate in their religious festivals.

Leaders of traditionalist Catholicism, a mixture of Roman Catholicism and native rituals, expelled 32 Christians from their homes in a village in Hidalgo state and another 25 from a town in Oaxaca; in each case, the evangelicals were deprived of their property for refusing to participate in drunken festivals that included worship of Catholic icons.

Hundreds of evangelical Christians from six states of Mexico organized a caravan on Aug. 10 on behalf of the 32 evangelicals from Los Parajes, near Huejutla in Hidalgo state, who were violently torn from their homes on July 13 when the town’s traditionalist Catholic leaders struck them with machetes and ropes. They were forced to leave behind 121 acres of land planted with crops, as well as their homes and animals.

The 32 Christians in Hidalgo state, north of Mexico City, say they have lost their entire crops of corn and sesame, and they are missing the season for planting jicama.

Cars and buses forming the caravan met at noon in the town of Tantoyuca, Hidalgo, proceeding together with police escort to Huejutla, where they left their vehicles and continued on foot toward the central plaza carrying the Mexican flag, a Christian flag, and placards with messages of love and support. Pastor Carlos Del Angel of Cerro Azul, Veracruz organized the protest, with the demonstrators also bringing food and clothing to the victims.

At press time Christian lawyer Samuel Noguera had still not been able to reach a solution with authorities. One of the expelled evangelical leaders, Enrique García, told newspaper Milenio Hidalgo on Aug. 11 that local and state authorities should respect the rights of those who have been expelled.

“It seems to me impossible that once it has been proven that all of us evangelicals have fulfilled our obligations to the town, we should still be exiled,” García reportedly said. “I understand that approximately 70 percent of the population of Los Parajes is open to our return.”

In February the Christians had reached an agreement with the community allowing them to choose to follow their own faith, but when Enedino Luna Cruz became town leader he burned the document, according to the evangelicals.

At first the expelled group, including two infants, four other small children, and several older adults, took refuge in two rooms of Benito Juarez School in nearby Huejutla, sleeping on the floor and going without food and water – and quashing plans for a 15th birthday celebration, a traditional Mexican quinceanera or “coming out” party, for Alejandra Dorotea Gerónimo, according to local newspapers.

The Milenio Hidalgo newspaper reported on July 28 that townspeople in Los Parajes had offered to allow the Christians to return if they denied their faith and paid the equivalent of nearly $13,900 in “fines” for having refused to contribute to the traditionalist Catholic festivals, but they refused.

“We are being treated as though we were delinquents for being evangelicals,” one Christian leader, Roberto Hernandez, told Milenio Diario on July 21.

The men were prohibited from leaving the school to try to earn money for food and were forbidden to tend to their crops.

Milenio Hidalgo later reported that on August 4 the refugees were moved out of the school into a small house with three rooms, one bathroom, and no tables or beds. Due to lack of space, the men were unable to lie down to sleep at night. Following the Aug. 10 caravan, the Milenio Hidalgo reported that the group would be relocated to a larger house with five bedrooms and two baths.

Three years prior, town officials had cut off water and electricity service to the seven Christian families in the village for being unwilling to return to Catholicism. At that time the pastor of the group was beaten and tied up in a futile effort to force him to change his faith. Likewise, in the current case authorities told the Christians their expulsion could have been avoided if they had rejected their faith.

[b]Death Threat[/b]

In the Yavelotzi community near San Jacinto, Oaxaca, 25 Christians were threatened and expelled from their homes for the same reasons on July 17, according to Christian support organization Open Doors.

The Netherlands-based organization said local authorities of Yavelotzi threatened to beat and kill a group of evangelical Christians on that day if they did not leave the community at once. The Christians had refused to participate in week-long parties characterized by drunkenness and worship of Catholic icons.

The 25 Christians left behind their homes, crops and communal rights – necessary for gaining access to government assistance – and were warned not to return unless they renounced their faith in Jesus Christ, according to Open Doors. They relocated to a nearby community called Rancho Tabla.

To prevent them from returning to their homes, Yavelotzi officials have taken away their land and have refused to allow their children to register for school, the organization said in a statement.

In nearby Arroyo Copete, according to Open Doors, traditionalist Catholic leaders have refused to allow the children of 10 Christian families to register for school, and are forcing the families to participate in the Catholic festivals. The officials assert that the evangelicals are not participating in the obligatory community service, but evangelicals say contributing to that service requires them to participate in “idol worship” as well.

In the Yavelotzi conflict, lawyers for both sides were to meet on July 25, but it was postponed at the last minute as the attorney for the Yavelotzi community was unable to attend.



 2009/9/6 13:45
White_Stone
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 Re: - with prayers.

About the Catholic church: This is no shock to me, just as in 2 Peter 2:22. They have a long history of torturing Christians.

And we thought it was only in China and North Korea and parts of the World far away from us in the USA. How long before it is here?

In another thread the Islam is spoken of as an enemy of the Church.

To imagine what those folks are experiencing is difficult to consider. Not difficult to imagine but 'painful' to consider. God have mercy on them all.

Praying for the Saints worldwide.
white stone


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 2009/9/6 18:17Profile
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It would not take much imagination what a formidable enemy the church would face should Islam and Catholicism cooperate in persecuting dissenters - meaning Biblical Believers.

ginnyrose


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 2009/9/9 10:12Profile
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 Re: Persecution! Mayhem, murder and orgy in mexico...prayer needed.

Ok, I will plead guilty to ignorance on this one. But what is the difference between what is described here and Mardi Gras as practiced here in the states, most notably in New Orleans?

ginnyrose


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 2009/9/9 10:15Profile
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Quote:
what is the difference between what is described here and Mardi Gras as practiced here in the states, most notably in New Orleans?



Dear Ginnyrose,

To my understanding, the difference is the lack of obvious Roman Catholic Church participation in the event.

white stone


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 2009/9/9 10:52Profile









 Re: Persecution! Mayhem, murder and orgy in mexico...prayer needed.

ginnyrose wrote:
"Ok, I will plead guilty to ignorance on this one. But what is the difference between what is described here and Mardi Gras as practiced here in the states, most notably in New Orleans?"

......Really nothing, except the constraint of Law. In America, with Protestant roots , and a Judeo-Christian justice system [for now..]the lawless activities that are allowed under these Satanic rites are illegal. In the chaos of Mexico,[ and more so in recent years], these ancient demons are emboldened, and push the envelope.


They strive for the ancient days of the Aztec and Inca where the blood of the sacrificed filled the city, and naked orgies and drunkenness possessed the people. The Catholics but baptized the satanic priests of Babylon...[ Rome..], and to this day every devilish festival falls on the exact same day...named after a "saint", rather than the demon that it used to in ancient times.


When Nineveh was discovered, the archeologists could not publish photos and descriptions of their activities because it was so pornographic and vile. Satan has always gloried in the defilement of man, as the crown of God's creation, and sought worship. These festivals just reflect his character, and also give his hierarchy.[ the hoards of imps and devils..] a taste of aggrandizement also.


"Arise and Shine, for the Glory of the Lord has risen upon you! Behold, [b]darkness shall cover the Earth, and gross darkness the people[/b], but the Lord shall arise[b] UPON THE END[/b] AND HIS GLORY SHALL BE SEEN UPON YOU!


In these end times we are seeing black clouds of depravity and murder arise at every turn, and yet we are promised more light and glory commensurate and ascending. Yes, the devil is enraged, and cast down to Earth to war with us, the bride...and we haven't seen anything yet. but, it is God's devil, and our authority and holiness is also increasing, for, [b]IT IS WRITTEN![/b] he GETS THE LAKE OF FIRE FOREVER. WE GET NEW JERUSALEM, AND JESUS FOREVER AND FOREVER!


Hallelujah!

 2009/9/9 10:58
ginnyrose
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Thanks! Janice and Tom for answering my question.

ginnyrose


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