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jlosinski
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What's really sad is that he may very well claim persecution and hold even tighter to his abberant theology.

 2009/9/1 21:27Profile









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I could be totally wrong about this but I think this could possibly be a masters of chaos technique. I watched a video of him at his church as well as his members. I also checked out his statemnet of faith. The whole thing seems very manufactured and fake. This could be an elaborate propaganda exploit to make christianity look more foolish. Now if it is real then pretty obvious he has transgressed the basic teachings of our Lord.



This is an interesting thought. Hadn't considered this before. I wouldn't put it past the world to do things like this.

My question is why hasn't the Secret Service paid this guy a visit? This could be construed as a threat, or inciting someone to carry out violence toward Obama. As far as I know they have done nothing. Which makes me wonder if this is simply a sham, as you suggest.

Could be.

Krispy

 2009/9/2 8:13
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Krispy says: My question is why hasn't the Secret Service paid this guy a visit? This could be construed as a threat, or inciting someone to carry out violence toward Obama. As far as I know they have done nothing. Which makes me wonder if this is simply a sham, as you suggest.



Excellent point. Perhaps 'they' do not want him silenced to serve their purpose.

After typing this I realized it can be taken that the powers that be orchestrated the incident [b]or[/b] they support it!!!?!?!?!? Yikes, I'm staying out of this one.

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Janice

 2009/9/2 10:47Profile
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My question is why hasn't the Secret Service paid this guy a visit?



I would guess they know all about it. They are not that ignorant.

Mind if I share a story?

Several years ago at CPC I got a call from an adoption agency. They got a client in who was 8 1/2 months pregnant and she wanted to put her child up for adoption. She fled an abusive male in AL so all the clothes she had was what was on her back and they were meager. They were asking us for assistance. I said sure, come ahead..

They came in ten minutes. This lady was obviously very pregnant and her dress was a couple sizes too small - she definitely needed clothes. I brought her into the office and proceeded to interview her like we usual and I worked to make the client feel comfortable. I went through our clothes closet and found some nice clothes, gave them to her and she went to the rest room to put them on. She came back out, looking very nice. They left.

The next day 'they' took her to the welfare office to help her get set up for medical assistance and other benefits. While they were standing in line waiting until an official could help them the lady from the doption agency went around the corner to get some food from a venting machine. It was noontime and they were hungry. They did not want to leave the line because they would lose their place. When she came back, this woman had disappeared. She looked all over for her but could not find her. There were no places she could go to and not be found.

Later this adoption agency got word from other agencies of a similar incident. Who was she? We never did find out...obviously it was not an angel...

My perspective - I was the one who took care of her....I saw red flags in dealing with her. She did not act like a client in a crises. For one thing, she was very comfortable in our office. Unusual. But I treated her with cheerfulness and love and just like I did all the others...And no one ever saw her disrobe...some seem to think she was not even pregnant.

Now, who was she? To me she was a spy but for whom? Good question.

My point is the government knows, I am sure. We just do not know who their spies are. And I would guess they also spy out this website and who knows? there may be a poster here who posts a lot that works as a spy...but if we walk according to the WORD what do we have to fear? It is God who we should fear and not man.

Y'all have a blessed day!

ginnyrose


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Sandra Miller

 2009/9/2 13:28Profile









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On one of the early morning TV shows they said that the SS, oops, Secret Service had paid a visit and that the guy tread the thin line where he actualy hasn't "threatened" the Pres. life.

 2009/9/2 15:34
jlosinski
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I checked around his site, as well as the links on his page and it doesn't seem to be fake, unless there was an informant in the independant, fundamental baptist church that talked to the feds...

 2009/9/2 19:33Profile
ChrisJD
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 Re: Phoenix Pastor Tells Church He Prays for Obama's Death

Hi everyone.


I wanted to share a couple of passages here.

I [b]do not[/b] mean for them to be taken as directed to Krispy or anyone else here. I understand the desire to talk about something like this. If it is true, this and other things like it are a terrible grief and blotch for us and I can understand wanting to talk about it.


The one passage that has come to mind often is the portion of the proverb that says [b]hatred stirs up strifes[/b].


The other, which I read today, says that an ungodly man digs up evil, and in his lips there is a burning fire.


Wish you all well.


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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2009/9/2 20:21Profile
MaryJane
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Greetings ChrisJD

I was wondering who or what the scripture you posted were in regard to? Hope you do not mind me asking, just trying to understand what you might be seeing and sharing.

God Bless
maryjane

 2009/9/2 20:27Profile
ChrisJD
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Hi Mary, I'm sorry about that and I don't mind you asking at all!

I thought the verses were appropriate to the comments that were made by the pastor, [b]if[/b] these things are true.

I think they also say something about the kind of people that might try to use things like this to start trouble for Christians.


The devices that are available to wicked people seem like they have no bounds and no end. And it may look like they are always wining. But they haven't considered the end.


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Christopher Joel Dandrow

 2009/9/2 20:36Profile
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Ive heard of this preacher many years ago when he did a very horrible video reply to a great message on youtube by paul washer.

What is interesting is that the preacher has the entire New Testament memorized and actually has some beneficial techniques in helping people memorize the word. Yet, this does no one any good if its applied and twisted in the wrong way :-o

He is very strict fundamentalist and reminds me of fred phelps and the westboro baptist racist , hatred centered fellowship. The twist of the true nature of Jesus and his gospel is so perverse it is baffling.

 2009/9/14 4:42Profile





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