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By Rick Joyner

When I read the brief on what was contained in the National Health Care bill that is now being presented before Congress, I could not believe I was reading something that was actually being considered in the United States of America . This is not about money or government mismanagement—this is about something far more diabolical than that. As incomprehensible as it may seem, this is about euthanasia, the power to determine who lives or dies in America . Hitler and Stalin would have loved to have had a means such as this for dispatching the millions they killed—it would have made their job much easier, and probably given them the ability to kill many more than they did. THIS BILL IS THAT SINISTER. This is not a joke—this is actually the nature of what is being proposed in the National Health Care legislation, and it is the obvious reason why the Obama Administration wants to ram it through Congress before anyone gets a chance to read it.

I have resolved to always be as generous as I can toward people with opposing views of my own. I do this because I believe it is the mandate of I Corinthians 13 to always believe the best about people, rather than the worst. I know this opens me up to be misled by some, but I consider that a small price to pay to not become cynical. I also do it because I think it is wise to always try and understand the position of my opponents—to be open to consider their positions and not be too rigid or inflexible to change because we all “see in part,” and “know in part.” Because of this, I have been chided for being too generous by giving those I do challenge grace by believing that they had not thought through the consequences of their proposals, or had other good intentioned reasons for doing what they were doing. However, after reading the brief on this health care bill, I don’t see how anyone could not see that there is profound evil and evil intent at work here. I just do not see any way to be any more generous with those who proposed this bill than that. It is that bad.

This bill is obviously designed to put the authority to determine who lives and dies in America into the hands of government bureaucrats. As outrageous as that seems, it is true—you can read it yourself. It even gives the government access to all of your accounts, and the authority to make withdrawals. I know this is hard to believe, but you can read it yourself.

Do you want a government bureaucrat to determine if your mother or father can receive treatment, even in life and death cases? Would you want a government bureaucrat to determine if your child, or you, could receive treatment, even when it means life or death? Think of the best experience that you ever had working with a government bureaucrat, and then think about them having the power to make a potentially life or death choice for your child, your parents, or for you. This is actually what is being proposed.

Add to that chilling thought the fact that this bureaucrat does not have to know one thing about medicine to be in that position. In fact, this bill proposes letting the government define what quality health care is and impose that definition on health care workers. Nowhere does it even specify what training, expertise, or qualifications this all-powerful government bureaucrat has to have to be placed in the position to make such ultimate decisions for the health, well-being, and even the lives of Americans.

Am I being too hard on bureaucrats, or the Obama Administration’s intentions? Certainly there are many bureaucrats who are sincere and true public servants. I agree that such are deserving of our appreciation and respect. The modern world could not exist without them. Think of the most noble and conscientious there are. What kind of position would we be putting them in to have to go to work every day and decide who is going to get treatment, who is going to have to go on a waiting list and for how long, and who are they going to have to just let die?

Who could live with such a job? There are many who could, who would just see it as paperwork, and those are the ones who would be in that position because the truly noble ones could not endure it. Hitler found many who could dispatch thousands each day, and then go home and enjoy their own families at night. There are people with that kind of moral disconnect. These jobs will be filled and by the very ones we would never want in such positions.

It is beyond anything I thought I would ever see in my lifetime that such a bill could ever be seriously considered in the U.S. Congress. This bill has the potential for totalitarian control to be imposed on America to a degree that Hitler and Stalin could not have even imagined. With the technology available now, totalitarian control can very quickly be imposed to a degree far beyond what was attained by either the Nazis or the Communists, and this bill has provisions in it for just that. It mandates the sharing of all of your personal information, from just about every conceivable source, with the new health care bureaucracy being set up to implement this national health care system. The penalties for trying to escape this web are serious. This would actually make America into a national concentration camp, and we can be sure that ultimately it will be a national death camp. You do not have to take my word for it—read it for yourself. Below I will include a brief on this bill so that you can look it up, chapter and verse.
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"...The section, titled “Advanced Care Planning Consultation” requires senior citizens to meet at least every 5 years with a doctor or nurse practitioner to discuss dying with dignity.

The section requires that they talk to their doctor, not a lawyer, about living wills, durable healthcare powers of attorney, hospice, etc. Given the progressive intelligentsia already being on the record in favor of euthanizing the elderly, it is no small leap to see where the Democrats are headed with this.

Legally forcing senior citizens to have “death with dignity schedules every few years is just another way to say the government wants to make sure seniors know it is time to commit suicide to save the system money.

And saving any medical system through encouraged deaths of the elderly or unborn is not a medical system worth having. The Hippocratic Oath requires doctors to “do no harm.” That’s meant toward the patient, not the costs to the government."

If this stuff does not scare the hell out of you, you are not paying close enough attention. If they are willing to make seniors die with dignity, how soon before they start forcing people to abort children who have a disability that will cost the system too much. If we hand the government the right to decide who lives and dies, where and how your medical records are kept, and what treatments people can or cannot be given, we might as well just declare a dictatorship because freedom will be dead.

Please call you senators and representative and tell them that this is not what you want in terms of healthcare reform and that you won't vote for them if they vote for this bill. Even if they are die hard Democrats the have to listen as public opinion is turning on them. Please, Please call, email or write and let your opinion be known.

 2009/8/4 20:54

Joined: 2008/8/4
Posts: 201


here's mine.

this is quite horrible, yes. no question there. absolutely.


we are a flesh-worshiping, irresponsible people, and we have brought all of this on oursleves, long before obama showed up. he's not the problem, we are. as a nation and as a culture. he's just the symbol of the problem. for far too long we have given ourselves over to every kind of sin, and now we are suffering the rampant consequences of it. the reason the gov't is trying so hard to save cash is because this country runs on the love of money. which has been going on for decades, almost a hundred years ago they started income-taxing us (which, by the way, is apparently illegal according to the constitution). obama is simply a puppet, he's not the master at all. we have allowed the greed. we have allowed the greed to overtake everything, and we are imploding as a result.

if we as a culture (western culture, it's not just the u.s.) would eat the way God intended, be healthy and not gluttonous, stop trusting in the system, stop allowing pesticides and growth hormones to give us all cancer, if we would quit disrespecting our bodies by being lazy pigs, and we would take care of our own elderly, and accept the will of the Lord that sometimes people die, even young, then we wouldn't be so dependent on the healthcare of the government, and we wouldn't have all the issues with our health in the first place. if we would hold the marriage bed as holy and sanctify our bodies, and stop feeding like vampires on sex and sensuality, we wouldn't have all the STDs and babies dying of AIDS. this country needs repentance, not bills and laws. we need soul reform. i get tortured with cnn news all day at my job (there's a 5-foot plasma tv playing it right at my desk. i try not to look at it but sometimes it catches my eye) and everyone is rioting and screaming about healthcare. but where were the screamers when they made the decision to start spraying raid on all the crops of consumable foods in the 50's? that is the same as euthanizing, only it is slower and more painful. you're still putting something lethal into people's bodies, and who's the first to go? elderly and babies because they aren't as strong. haven't you noticed that miscarriages and the SIDS rate have risen drastically? caner is way up, and new forms of it are coming out all the time. why do you think that is? because we want things to be cheaper. it's really the same concept. where were the screamers when they decided to mass-produce oreos and pop tarts and kool aid and feed them to young children? where were the screamers then? when we were allowing everyone to be poisoned by greed and the evil love of money, and gluttony, where were the screamers then? where were the screamers when playboy and cosmo and and other filthy magazines came out? where were the screamers when TV came on, and it got worse, and worse, and worse, where now, even on the disney channel, it is almost porn? where were the screamers when we stopped caring for our elderly and started throwing them into assisted living facilities, defying the commands of Scripture, and burdening the government with their care? and when we stopped caring for our babies, because the women wanted to defy the calling of God's holy way? they were silent, because they LOVED THEIR SIN. WE loved it. as a culture.

but now that we have created a monster the enormity of which has not been seen before in this part of the world, now come the screamers, screaming about healthcare reform. demanding to know who's going to fix it all. screaming about AIDS. screaming about money. screaming about problems. if we had obeyed the Lord, we just wouldn't be in this mess. we expect the government to fix it all and then get mad at them for doing a bad job. of course they're doing a bad job! they can't possibly fix this. it took a long time and millions of approving people loving their sins to get into this mess, and one person and his team of suits isn't gonna be able to pull us out of it in 4 years...they're just doing what is the next natural thing in this horrific chain of events. the government is merely a reflection of the people. we blame them for all our problems and say "fix this! we're mad now!!" but we don't see that we made all those problems.

no! only repentance can fix this. only Christ can do any good, and i don't even know if He is willing! we have run so hard and so passionately after our own lusts that we have been given over! and these horrific, sick, vile, staggering realities that are ours now are the result of the worship of sin and the flesh in this country for over a hundred years!

we have done this! WE! not obama. sure he has done his part, like we all have...but the guy's only like 50 years old, and he's just one guy. there are 300 million people in this country, and we have been sinning against the Lord since before obama's great great grandpa was even born. we have literally sinned ourselves into the ground.

oh, my heart breaks...i live in new york city, and i see it every day, it's so out in the open here. the sins of our country and culture are laid bare before my eyes, and i weep and weep some days. i hate being here SO MUCH because of what i'm forced to see every day. we have run away from Him and into the love of sin. and that is why all this terrible stuff is happening. it began long ago, and is only just culminating now. yes..the government is evil!!! very much!!! but they are evil because we have allowed them to be, we pressed them to make rules that allowed us to indulge our lusts. we became so "free" that we became totally oppressed. we did not keep our stand for Christ. this country began with Christ, and we left Him. we are on our way to implosion. we will crumble under the pressure of our decisions. obama is the face of our country/culture. he is the devil's puppet, just like almost every other person in this country.

but...for individual children of God, we can choose to live holy lives!!! we can repent!!! we can tell of His mighty works!!! :) we can have the joy of the Lord, and He will be our strength!!! we can love Him Who is salvation!!! o let us take joy amongst the terrible ways of our land, let us take joy that we can be used of God. and let us repent fearfully for anything we have bought into or embraced that our culture has fed us, and hurl it to the roadside like the trash it is! let us press on towards the goal, brethren!!!
let us run from the sin of our countrymen!!! yes! let us pray for revival!!! let us not allow them to harm our children or elderly or even us anymore, but let us care for one another, lovingly. let us return to the Lord in all our ways...and repent, and be healed. let us have compassion for the lost...but not run into excess with them. let us show them a better way!!! let them see us and glorify the Lord by what He does, only let's let Him do it!

let us repent...let us repent....let us repent...

oh dear is horrible, this news. but let it drive us to our faces in worship of the Lord and His ways, and let it drive us to seek repentance before Him...what love He has shown us...oh, wow. let this drive us to change for His glory.

i love you all, and i'm glad we can fight for thew Lord together!!!
Glory to to the Lamb Who was slain!!!! Forever lives King Jesus!!!!! Praise God Who sits upon the Throne!!!!!

 2009/8/10 21:32Profile

Joined: 2004/7/7
Posts: 7524


We used to believe the health care professionals were interested in our welfare and worked to provide this for us. I am wondering - have we idolized it to the point where God is going to have to remove this security from us so we will once again be forced to trust him for our health, well-being? This idea is what keeps tugging at my mind since this ruckus started. If this is the case we better start now.


Sandra Miller

 2009/8/11 21:46Profile


I'm not going to get into the whole 'health care' thing but I will say that I've followed Joyner and he's no more credible on these issues than the typical Washington lobbyist. He's always espousing his views on a certain prophetic website. He made many bold claims about the Iraq war and even prophesied conceringing it. When it never came to be, he wrote a subsequent article explaining away his prophesy and acted as if he has 'inside information' and in-depth knowledge that the isn't in mainstream information. Basically he was using information that he thought was solid and gave a prophecy. But the info was wrong and so was he.

Joyner is an effective writer and a proficient bullet dodger. He can justify anything he does with slick chop logic. In addition, is involved in the 'restoration' of Todd Bentley and has been affiliated with Paul Cain, Bob Jones, and the other "Kansas City Prophets". He claims in one of his books that he's gone to the 3rd heaven and discusses 'his' experience as most of what was written was all about him. He also joined the Knights of Malta, a secret society with Catholic contingents. He plays down his affiliation with the Knights as being 'in the past' but, to my knowledge, has never outright condemned this past decision.

This man is not to be trusted.

 2009/8/12 7:36

Joined: 2008/10/25
Posts: 3510
This world is not my home anymore.


I'm writing to agree with ginnyrose...but I have story first!! My friends and I started all attending the same jail ministry (wed nights 6 pm) and we started noticing that the inmates did not receive their medicine (for whatever reasons) but we began to pray about it and started laying hands on the sick and they began to be healed by the power of God! What we did by faith for these forgotten women, God finished the faith!!

ginnyrose wrote:
I am wondering - have we idolized it to the point where God is going to have to remove this security from us so we will once again be forced to trust him for our health, well-being? This idea is what keeps tugging at my mind since this ruckus started. If this is the case we better start now.

I read a book on fasting and someone asked the author why people in third world countries were being healed all over the place but not here in America. The author said (paraphrased), "[i]Because you have health care and run to the doctor for whatever you have need of[/i]."

I have been thinking of that statement a [b]lot[/b] lately. There are four things that have been on my heart:

Getting prayed up because I'm thinking that this thing is going to be allowed to pass.

Begin a lifestyle of fasting - 1 to 2 days every week.

Getting read up. Not for arguments sake but to find those secret nuggets!

Lastly, getting fit (Christians are more known for their eating habits than praying habits - how sad is that?).

As a body of believers, we need to prepare - well, you guys do what you want but the Spirit is leading me to do the above and I've already seen what He is willing to do (on my 1 night / 1 hour a week!!!!) at the jail!! [b]I can't help[/b] but praise His name, to hear and begin to obey.


 2009/8/12 9:27Profile

Joined: 2008/10/25
Posts: 3510
This world is not my home anymore.


ccrider wrote:
I'm not going to get into the whole 'health care' thing ...


This man is not to be trusted.

But this thread is about health care, well anyway I did notice that he inserted his own opinions (I would to) but for the most part what he is saying about this current health care bill is true.

There are a lot of people on here I don't agree with but I do not just dismiss EVERYTHING they say due to who they are; well, I have done it but the Lord is teaching me not to !! Even though sometimes I still want too! LOL

You really do not know if the Lord is using this man or not, and if so, what part of his life the Lord is using... so please beware of speaking against him (or anyone).

God bless you!!

[url=]HR 3200 Health bill[/url]

[url=]Defend Your Health Care[/url] Former New York Lieutenant Governor, Betsy McCaughey's web site.
She also has both bills on her site.. the house and senate.


 2009/8/12 10:11Profile


"You really do not know if the Lord is using this man or not, and if so, what part of his life the Lord is using... so please beware of speaking against him (or anyone)." Lysa

I do know his history as I described some of it below and I've spoken against him and many of the Kansas City Prophets before and stand by it now. I have good reason for doing so as they have caused a lot of damage to the flock. I gave my take on the author, not the healthcare debate. I'm sure people can separate the two but I felt a need to give a little background info. I don't want to make this thread about him so you can do your own research if you would like. My mother in law gave me books, articles, took me to conferences on these people when I was a young Christian etc... and the Lord clearly showed me later about the way many of these prophets operate. Many of their teachings and prophetic experiences are far beyond scripture. This has been validated by the many sermons by Carter Conlon, Jim Cymbala and Zac Poonen's on the false Gospel and false prophets that came after this revelation. They may not mention names but they give enough details that you can figure it out. One prophet that Cymbala was talking about concerned a man whose conference I went to and he carefully laid out the extra biblical claims and dangers of such.

As to the truthfulness of statements, all I can say is some people can give true facts but still lack credibility. I'm sure Ted Haggard wrote about policy facts when he was the leader of the National Association of Evangelical's. I'm just saying in love... be careful.

I say this only about the author... there is plenty of info from many on health care and I agree with Ginnyrose on that subject alone. God is in control, he may just knock out all the props that hold us up and sustain us phycially in this healthcare system. He may use the gov't for this.. He may not. But regardless I believe it will be designed to seek Him for our hope and not gov't, doctor's, or drug companies. Like Job, in times of trouble we can either seek God or curse Him. Someday I believe God will give our 'blessed' nation that choice. How and when that could be done no one knows.

 2009/8/12 10:58

Joined: 2009/2/16
Posts: 65

 Re: National health scare


Lysa wrote:
I'm writing to agree with ginnyrose...but I have story first!! My friends and I started all attending the same jail ministry (wed nights 6 pm) and we started noticing that the inmates did not receive their medicine (for whatever reasons) but we began to pray about it and started laying hands on the sick and they began to be healed by the power of God! What we did by faith for these forgotten women, God finished the faith!!


Lysa, you hit the nail on the head - it just encouraged my heart -Here IS A POWERFUL VERSE

2 Chronicles 7:14
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and WILL HEAL THEIR LAND.

Daniel TOO daniel chapter 6-
10 Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

pray pray pray and like lysa- said let us be led by the holyspirit and obey him at the right time to take the right action-

LET US "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."Psalms 46:10

 2009/8/12 10:59Profile


JesusLoves and Lysa

 2009/8/12 15:48


by Rich Joyner

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The national debate on health care is rising in intensity every day. This is very encouraging—Americans are waking up, getting informed, and becoming engaged. Truth and light are the “divinely powerful weapons” that can have a much greater impact than any military force. As light has been shown on the health care bill, it is creating a remarkable awakening.

Health care is a major issue, and even though this present bill could be a disaster for the nation if it passes, almost everyone agrees that some kind of change is needed in our health care system. Currently, most of the passion is against something (and this is right); however, once this bill is stopped, let us not lose our passion, but turn it into something positive and constructive. The awakening that is taking place is an opportunity for something extraordinary to be done. There are answers to the great issues of our times. We will address some of these in future Bulletins, but for now we need to look at some issues that have been exposed by the present controversy that is in many ways much bigger than the health care bill.

One thing we do not want to do is demonize those we disagree with, even if this is happening to us. Some good is in the worst people and some bad is in the best people. Good intentions can be mixed in with the evil, and often in people’s minds those good intentions are what they justify their actions with, but the actions are still evil, and the actions are what must be stopped. Even so, let us always keep in mind that people are not our enemies, as is clear in Ephesians 6.

I can appreciate those who think my language is too incendiary in these Bulletins when I use such terms as “totalitarianism,” or when I make references to Hitler and Stalin. It is not my purpose to unnecessarily ratchet up the passions, but I do think they are relevant, and we need to understand the clear lessons of history when governments are given too much authority over people. Even so, I confess to having wondered myself if I had not gone too far in some of my statements, so I prayed for the true nature of what we’re dealing with to be revealed. My prayer was answered much faster than I was expecting. I am now much more confident than ever that I am right about the dangers I see, and I will be even more bold in my warnings. I am not angry at any person, even those I think are being used the most to do evil, rather I am praying for them.

That being said, when people have ulterior or evil motives, at some point they will always tip their hand. Conservatives, and especially Christians, are being demonized by the Obama Administration, and totalitarian control is being sought in ways that are abundantly clear. The list below includes some of the ways this has been made quite clear in the last few weeks:

1) The White House requests informants to send them the names of those who speak negatively about the health care bill. This is nothing less than an enemies list and a remarkably blatant attempt to build a culture of fear in order to stifle descent. The shock and outrage about this is just beginning, but it is already being publicly called one of the most serious threats to the freedom of speech ever.

2) The Department of Homeland Security put out the infamous memo basically declaring that all evangelical Christians, as well as a high percentage of all Christians and veterans, are potential right wing terrorists. Of course, they did not use the term “evangelical Christians,” but they said those “who believe in the biblical prophecies of the end times,” which does include virtually all evangelicals, as well as a high percentage of all other Christians. At the very least, this has to greatly disturb all Christians and cause great distrust in their present government’s intentions.

3) The U.S. holds a joint exercise with several other nations to combat terrorist attacks. The attacks they simulate are from “right wing terrorists.” Think about that. The world has suffered just one attack in history from one who could be a right-wing terrorist, Timothy McVeigh, and all the rest around the world have come from Muslim extremists, yet this whole exercise is about stopping right wing extremists.

4) Car dealers who logged into the program to apply for the “cash for clunkers” find a notice that by doing this the Federal government claims ownership of the dealer’s computers and all of its contents. The outrage about this was swift, and the Administration quickly removed it, but this is the kind of thing which reveals an obvious pattern that we have to be blind not to see.

5) Families who had car dealerships for generations had them recently canceled, only to be given to others who had no experience in the business. Claims are being made that those who lost their dealerships were Republicans, and those who received them were Democrats. I have not seen conclusive proof of this yet, but there are investigations going on, and if it proves true, it is going far beyond Chicago machine politics to being Chicago gangland politics.

6) The declaration by Nancy Pelosi that those who are so vehemently declaring their opposition to the Administration’s health care bill in town hall meetings are “un-American.” What does this say about what the Speaker thinks of the First Amendment’s right to free speech? Why did the Speaker never raise this issue when this kind of thing is done to conservatives, which have been much more frequent? Some of the protestors may have gone too far in expressing their outrage, but to call them “un-American” for exercising their basic right to free speech is over the line. To his credit, President Obama distanced himself from Speaker Pelosi’s comments, saying that “loud, boisterous descent is part of the American experience.”

7) The removal of every mention of Israel on the website of the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. There is plenty about the Palestinians and other Arab groups, which there is nothing wrong with, but to not have a single mention of Israel on the website of our embassy in Israel does say a lot. One of the basic reasons for all of the blessings we have known as a nation is because of the Lord’s promise that those who bless Abraham’s seed will be blessed. However, those who curse Abraham’s seed will be cursed. This is an ultimate issue for America, not to mention the fact that Israel has been one of the best friends that America has ever had. From one end of Israel to the other, the Jewish people wept after 9/11, while there was dancing and rejoicing in the streets of our Arab “allies.”

I do not like conspiracy theories. I have yet to see one proven true, and the only fruit that I have seen from such theories has not been good. At the very least, these make people paranoid, which is a terrible spiritual and mental bondage. As a child, I was subject to someone with extreme paranoia, and I realize this can cause me to go too far in the opposite direction, not wanting to ever see fear used to control people. However, it is more than that which compels me to think the best about people, not the worst—it a basic Christian mandate in I Corinthians 13.

I have been taken advantage of at times because of my devotion to this. However, I consider it better to have this happen, take some losses, and grow in the most basic Christian discipline of forgiveness than to become cynical, and therefore not be able to love people the way we’re called to do. This resolve has caused me to feel that it is my Christian duty to hope for the best for Obama as President. Believe it or not, I still think that is the right thing to do, and I am still resolved to do this.

I remain thankful to live in a country that would elect its leader from a minority that represented only 12 to 14 percent of the population. I was and remain grieved by the President’s stands on some social issues, but he is our President, and I sincerely wanted and prayed for his success, and I continue to do so. I do not, and have not ever thought that he was totally evil, but I do feel that he is being used to open the door to evil in our country. I have been deeply grieved by the recent Bulletins I’ve had to put out, but the evidence is too overwhelming that something is seriously awry in the Obama Administration and the very fabric of America as we know it. That America has been and can continue to be possibly the greatest nation in history is now in jeopardy.

A wonderful example of the kind of discernment that we need is found in the movie, The Fellowship of the Ring. When the hobbits meet Strider, who becomes their most faithful friend and protector, he was so hard and uncompromising that they did not like him at first. Their real enemy who had come to kill them came across much more likable. Frodo had a great revelation. In his words, Strider “seemed foul but feels fair,” but the other, who was indeed the enemy, “seems fair but feels foul.” For all of the Obama Administration’s talk of how they want to help everyone, provide health care for all, which may indeed be a goal, and then they also say taxes are not going to go up and they are just having to fix the mess that they were left with—it is feeling more and more foul. We don’t have to go on feelings. We now have proof.

I hate to keep bringing this up, but how about all of the lies we have already been told? Remember the one about there not being one single earmark in this bill? There were over 8,000 earmarks in that bill! How about, “The federal government is not going to go into the car business.” You have to be beyond stupid to not see that owning 60 percent of General Motors is being in the car business. How about the promise that he would do everything in the daylight and that he would never sign a bill that had not been posted on the government website long enough for us to read and comment on it? He has not even wanted to give Congress enough time to read these bills! Obama made all of these statements with a straight face looking right into the camera. Are we now supposed to believe him when he looks in the camera and tells us that there is nothing in the health care bill about euthanasia? Can we believe anything he’s telling us now? Does he really think America is that slow or naïve? The wakeup that is now going on in America is evidence that the American people are far more astute than they are being given credit for.

I can’t blame America for voting for Obama. He is likeable, with a wonderful, lovable family. I really wanted to vote for our first black President, but could not because of his stand on some issues that I cannot compromise, but I was very proud to be an American on Inauguration Day. I think it will always deserve to be one of the great days in American history. Even so, we have to be the most naïve on the planet to continue believing in the change he is trying to impose on America. Change is needed, but not all change is good, and we’re headed to a terrible conclusion if we keep going the way we’ve gone under this Administration.

Our most basic and cherished freedoms are being threatened. We should be thankful that many more people are waking up to this every day. What grieves me the most is that the evidence is quite overwhelming that this is being done in a planned, calculated way. I studied Marxism for a few years, and was a Marxist for a time before I became a Christian. I turned away from it even before my conversion to Christ because I could see that its idealism did not match practical reality. However, I can quickly recognize the basic Marxist strategy to use crises to seize control. I am not ready to call Obama a Marxist, but he is most definitely a socialist, and there are startling similarities between the Marxist playbook and the one that is being used by this Administration to gain increasing control of the American people.

It is hard not to become fearful, or angry, but we must resolve that we are not going to do either. However, neither can we stop warning the people if we are going to be faithful watchmen or do all that we can to protect the people we’ve been entrusted to watch over.

It was shocking to discover that when the Soviet Union fell, the KGB never considered the CIA their true counterpart, but rather the IRS. They felt that it was the IRS that had the real control over the people. Provisions are in almost every piece of legislation now being promoted for totalitarian type control. By speaking out the way I am, I have no doubt made myself a target, but I resolved a long time ago that I would rather be falsely charged and go to prison rather than see my country become a prison. It is most encouraging to see so many others obviously resolving to do the same. It would be better to die than to see my children, or their children, have to live under a totalitarian regime. The evidence is becoming more clear daily that this is what we are threatened by.

Too many have paid a dear price for us over the last two and a half centuries to let all that they sacrificed be lost on our watch. Seeing the way that Americans are waking up and standing up against this health care bill is giving me increasing confidence that it will not happen. However, there are many who still must wake up and stand, if we are going to be able to draw back from the precipice we are now tottering over.

As stated, this health care bill actually goes beyond totalitarian control and could prove to be life or death for many Americans, especially the elderly. I don’t think there is doubt in anyone’s mind who has studied the bill and who knows about health care, that rationing would happen fast, if not immediately after this bill is passed. The simple math establishes this—the present health care system is already stretched too thin, and millions more will be added to the system immediately. We also have the factor that if its “free,” why won’t everyone go to the doctor for every little thing, which they probably would not do now because they have to pay for it. Just from a management standpoint, this bill is so terribly designed and badly thought out as to its consequences that it might actually cause the collapse of the whole system quickly. Through this crisis, we may be looking at the ultimate form of controlling people, which the present Administration is obviously trying to do in many ways. This has to be stopped.

If the government is having a hard time managing the “cash for clunkers” program, how does anyone think they are going to be able to manage something as complex as the health care system? I think it would be a much better idea to have the health care system take over the government. As bad as health care needs correcting, it is now run much better than the government is. Just the thought of all of our doctors, nurses, and health care professionals becoming government employees should have us crying, “NO! THIS CANNOT HAPPEN!”

Again, very few people are saying that the health care system does not need change, and even some profound changes, but not all change is good. It is encouraging that Americans are standing up and letting their voices be heard. I can understand the outrage and anger many are feeling, but as Christians, we must not let anger control us. Satan will not cast out Satan. Rage will never cast out evil. We should treat all people with dignity and respect, especially those who are in authority. We must also keep in mind that in America, the government is supposed to be “of the people, by the people, and for the people,” so we are the ultimate authority and should be treated with dignity and respect too. This should start with telling us the truth.

We must stand up for truth with the resolve to never compromise. We cannot overcome evil with evil, but we can overcome evil with good. As I have quoted often, “If you do not change your direction, you will end up where you are headed.” Support of the Obama Administration is melting away quickly, possibly faster than any previous Administration. Without major changes in direction, the Obama Administration will likely be considered one of the worst in recent times, if not the worst ever. My prayer, and my ultimate hope, is that change comes to Obama first and he does become one of our great Presidents.

Before I became a Christian I consider myself to have been far worse, prone to evil in every way, and an antichrist, but the Lord had mercy on me. My whole perspective on everything changed when I was born again, and that is my prayer for all who are in darkness. I earnestly pray for that same mercy and grace to come upon Obama, but I will also not cease to sound the alarm at the unprecedented dangers I see. I am not doing this in anger at anyone because I don’t think that any person is our enemy, but as we are told in Ephesians 6:12:

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