SermonIndex Audio Sermons
Image Map
Discussion Forum : Miracles that follow the plow :  A Deeper Hunger for Jesus and crying in pray

Print Thread (PDF)


Joined: 2005/1/6
Posts: 1838
Hemel Hempstead

  A Deeper Hunger for Jesus and crying in pray

When the love of God breaks you, you cry in prayer!

Psalms 30:5 KJV

For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.

I have really wanted to cry in prayer as I see this state that my heart is in and the world and the insurmountable problems with the Church and with Fellow believers.

It is almost I am sick of hearing ream after ream of bad thing that happens whether it is in the white house or in the uk houses of parliament and am longing to hear news from heaven

1 And they continued three years without war between Syria and Israel. 2 And it came to pass in the third year, that Jehoshaphat the king of Judah came down to the king of Israel. 3 And the king of Israel said unto his servants, Know ye that Ramoth in Gilead is ours, and we be still, F143 and take it not out of the hand of the king of Syria? 4 And he said unto Jehoshaphat, Wilt thou go with me to battle to Ramothgilead? And Jehoshaphat said to the king of Israel, I am as thou art, my people as thy people, my horses as thy horses. 5 And Jehoshaphat said unto the king of Israel, Enquire, I pray thee, at the word of the LORD to day. 6 Then the king of Israel gathered the prophets together, about four hundred men, and said unto them, Shall I go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall I forbear? And they said, Go up; for the Lord shall deliver it into the hand of the king. 7 And Jehoshaphat said, Is there not here a prophet of the LORD besides, that we might enquire of him? 8 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, There is yet one man, Micaiah the son of Imlah, by whom we may enquire of the LORD: but I hate him; for he doth not prophesy good concerning me, but evil. And Jehoshaphat said, Let not the king say so. 9 Then the king of Israel called an officer, F144 and said, Hasten hither Micaiah the son of Imlah. 10 And the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah sat each on his throne, having put on their robes, in a void place in the entrance of the gate of Samaria; and all the prophets prophesied before them. 11 And Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah made him horns of iron: and he said, Thus saith the LORD, With these shalt thou push the Syrians, until thou have consumed them. 12 And all the prophets prophesied so, saying, Go up to Ramothgilead, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the king's hand. 13 And the messenger that was gone to call Micaiah spake unto him, saying, Behold now, the words of the prophets declare good unto the king with one mouth: let thy word, I pray thee, be like the word of one of them, and speak that which is good. 14 And Micaiah said, As the LORD liveth, what the LORD saith unto me, that will I speak.

15 So he came to the king. And the king said unto him, Micaiah, shall we go against Ramothgilead to battle, or shall we forbear? And he answered him, Go, and prosper: for the LORD shall deliver it into the hand of the king. 16 And the king said unto him, How many times shall I adjure thee that thou tell me nothing but that which is true in the name of the LORD? 17 And he said, I saw all Israel scattered upon the hills, as sheep that have not a shepherd: and the LORD said, These have no master: let them return every man to his house in peace. 18 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, Did I not tell thee that he would prophesy no good concerning me, but evil? 19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. 20 And the LORD said, Who shall persuade F145 Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. 21 And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, I will persuade him. 22 And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so. 23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee. 24 But Zedekiah the son of Chenaanah went near, and smote Micaiah on the cheek, and said, Which way went the Spirit of the LORD from me to speak unto thee? 25 And Micaiah said, Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself. 26 And the king of Israel said, Take Micaiah, and carry him back unto Amon the governor of the city, and to Joash the king's son; 27 And say, Thus saith the king, Put this fellow in the prison, and feed him with bread of affliction and with water of affliction, until I come in peace. 28 And Micaiah said, If thou return at all in peace, the LORD hath not spoken by me. And he said, Hearken, O people, every one of you.

29 So the king of Israel and Jehoshaphat the king of Judah went up to Ramothgilead. 30 And the king of Israel said unto Jehoshaphat, I will disguise myself, and enter into the battle; but put thou on thy robes. And the king of Israel disguised himself, and went into the battle. 31 But the king of Syria commanded his thirty and two captains that had rule over his chariots, saying, Fight neither with small nor great, save only with the king of Israel. 32 And it came to pass, when the captains of the chariots saw Jehoshaphat, that they said, Surely it is the king of Israel. And they turned aside to fight against him: and Jehoshaphat cried out. 33 And it came to pass, when the captains of the chariots perceived that it was not the king of Israel, that they turned back from pursuing him. 34 And a certain man drew a bow at a venture, and smote the king of Israel between the joints of the harness: wherefore he said unto the driver of his chariot, Turn thine hand, and carry me out of the host; for I am wounded. 35 And the battle increased F146 that day: and the king was stayed up in his chariot against the Syrians, and died at even: and the blood ran out of the wound into the midst of the chariot. 36 And there went a proclamation throughout the host about the going down of the sun, saying, Every man to his city, and every man to his own country. 37 So the king died, and was brought F147 to Samaria; and they buried the king in Samaria. 38 And one washed the chariot in the pool of Samaria; and the dogs licked up his blood; and they washed his armour; according unto the word of the LORD which he spake. 39 Now the rest of the acts of Ahab, and all that he did, and the ivory house which he made, and all the cities that he built, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Israel? 40 So Ahab slept with his fathers; and Ahaziah his son reigned in his stead.

In this story all the other prophets prophesy good news and micah is the only one that hears from heaven! Ahab dies, a wicked king. When our prayers can affect nations.
I know our nation is under judgement and deserves to be there! it just so pains me that an entire generation has never seen god move in our nation in an amazing way!

I find Fasting really hard, one because I am thin, I want to pray and fast but I do not want to be stupid!

I so need Jesus and so have a deeper hunger for him

Dominic Shiells

 2009/7/4 4:53Profile

Joined: 2005/1/6
Posts: 1838
Hemel Hempstead

 Re: A Deeper Hunger for Jesus and crying in pray

we were talking about how many people cry in movies but yet not cry about personal situations or in prayer!

2Co 7:10 - Show Context
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.

It is shocking how many girls or guys can cry in movies but not over jesus!

Dominic Shiells

 2009/7/4 12:14Profile

Joined: 2006/5/22
Posts: 2670
Nottingham, England


I'm not going to pretend I read all 40 verses that you quoted, but I have read the scripture before.

It is hard, as a Christian, to ignore the hostile, oppresive, godless atmosphere in which we live today.

Whilst we do need to fast, as a means, not an end, we are to continually go before God in prayer.

Prayer is what we do, whether we feel like it or not, or feel anything or not.

Yes, people, rather, Christians will cry at movies, because what they are seeing is more real to them than are the lost. Even their own families are forgotten during this time.

The lostness of souls, and the chronic failing conditon of man should be our concern.

And I don't doubt that it is. It just seems so hidden.

Psalm 34v6, 'This poor man cried out, and the Lord heard him, and saved him out of all his troubles.

God is more willing to move than we are to pray.

So, let's ask.

God bless.

 2009/7/6 8:10Profile

Joined: 2008/4/7
Posts: 797

 Re: A Deeper Hunger for Jesus and crying in prayer: Seeing the last days of a nation.

Dear Brother Deltadom

You said: "[u]I have really wanted to cry in prayer as I see this state that my heart is in and the world and the insurmountable problems with the Church and with Fellow believers[/u]."

I transcribed this yesterday and wondered about posting in on SI, on a new thread. Then I found your thread here.

J. Vernon McGee is currently in the Book of Jeremiah. His Sunday sermon today is like he was prophesying the coming darkness so many years ago. The whole July 5, 2009 message is worth noting on Sermonindex if it is not already here.. Useful for preaching and prayer for revival. Paul Washer's !0 indictments could have come from this:

[url=]Link here.[/url]

In this Sunday service he quoted the following:

[u]From Dr. Moorhead[/u]: It was Jeremiah's lot to prophesy at a time when all things in Judah were rushing down to the final and mournful catastrophe, when political excitement was at its height, when the worst passions swayed the various parties, and the most fatal councils prevailed. It was his to stand in the way over which his nation was rushing headlong to destruction, to make an heroic effort to arrest it and to turn it back, and to fail and be compelled to step to one side and see his own people, whom he loved with the tenderness of a woman, plunge over the precipice into the wide weltering ruin.

[u]From Lord McColie (England and in a different context)[/u]: It is difficult to conceive any situation more painful than that of a great man condemned to watch the lingering agony of an exhausted country. To tend it during the alternate fits of stupefaction and ravings which preceded its dissolution and to see the symptoms of vitality disappear, one by one, til nothing is left but coldness, darkness and corruption.

Who is in step with Jeremiah today: God's man in a very dark hour. Is a Babylonian captivity ahead for us? Will we go to God for help or to this and that nation/conglomeration?

There is wonderful scripture here, references to then current fundamentalist surface revival movements (“We need a sack cloth and ashes movement.”) and Jeremiah's final warning: Jer. 13:16. We do weep for ourselves as Jesus said.

Following God though none go with us

 2009/7/6 12:36Profile

Promoting Genuine Biblical Revival.
Affiliate Disclosure | Privacy Policy