YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYtZfNGJeQ&feature=channel_page

This video is the video my sister's (apostate church) (be ye warned brethrens!), Pastor showed at their church to introduce the heresy of their small groups. They used scenes from Star Wars, with Yoda!

Can you believe it? Please also pray that my sister would come out of those types of Apostate churches (so called).

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Connie

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Update:

My sister had my father call me, for warning my sister but he would never say what my sister told him or the topic he wished to talk about. He just wanted me to talk, but I merely asked him 'what does he mean about Bonnie and I and what did Bonnie tell you about me? He was just trying to catch me in my words to accuse me as my sister did with him. I didn't not give the devil ground. When I finally told in honor toward my father, that I will not listen to any accusations, my father quickly said, "then good bye" and hung up his cell phone. This time I did not get emotional with my father in trying to defend myself, to warn my sister is not bad it is Love.

Spiritually this is how my encounter with my father went:
James 4:7

7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
KJV

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Connie

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In short:

My dad didn't really get anywhere with me because I asked him what Bonnie was telling him and he wouldn't so the journey Bonnie put my father on didn't go anywhere and my dad hung up the phone confounded because he couldn't catch me in my words because I had no accusation or complaint to give him about Bonnie. So Bonnie only made herself and my dad (for taking her side) look rather silly.

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Connie

Does your sister believe that the Bible is the word of God?

If not, no matter what you say, you are talking to yourself.

There are those who preach the word of God and don't believe it, so why should the listeners?

We could name them too, but let that serve another thread.

Also, if we do believe the word, then we will recognise what it says in 1 Tim 4v1-2 about giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons and having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

Also, 2 Thess 2v3 tells us that there must be a falling away.

It will happen.

That does not mean you do not warn people, but we warn and pray, as only we can do.

We can only put our trust and confidence in the Creator of heaven and earth.

And wait on the Lord.

Enid, amen! Keep them in your prayers please.

My sister reads the NIV (of a socialist translation etc.) But if you ask her she would say yes and that she loves Jesus with all her being. My father when he hadn't fallen away, even told my sister in love that she has blinders on. But he won't hear that from me if I would tell him that, so I don't. But I had told my sister that a few weeks ago in e-mail - that's the only place she'll talk with me is e-mail she won't even call me anymore since last thanksgiving holiday (so called).

My father can not hear about warning others now that he had fallen away more than 10 years ago when he divorced his 2nd wife (my mother had died 10 years prior). My father is seeing those who rightly warn as unrighteous - like how John the Bapt. warned but he got his head cut off. My dad, yesterday used that story to make John the Bapt. look unrighteous and hence due to that he got his head cut off. He's equating 'suffering' to be due to reproving others like King Herod. He believes John the Bapt. had no right to speak to Herod in that manner - he says that was NOT of the righteousness of the Lord. My father, I love him very much, is not understanding The Word of God. My dad has past sexual issues so he sees John the Bapt. as wrong for reproving Herod for his sexual manners.


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UPDATE:
My father called me again this morning. He said he wanted to apologize for the past - for us seeing him getting into arguments and debates over God's Word - and he had a junk-yard dog in him at times of the past. He was saying that that seed (of arguments etc.) was planted in his children (in me). I told him, "Daddy I agree with the arguments and debates - it is wrong - but I do not have that seed". He then said, "well, have a good day" and hung up.

My father is trying to naturally figure out how and why I am wrong for warning my sister, he's never heard from me what I had told Bonnie (my sister) nor did he tell me what Bonnie was accusing me of. My sister has only caused my father to present to me a fleshly-sacrifice to somehow ~change me~. But I am not of that fighting-seed, he can not see the evidence of God's Holy Spirit in me because he chooses always to hear my sisters accusations against me. One apology my father said was when he was trying to tell his brother (my uncle Ricky) of that dangers of his belief - he was a Jehovah Witness who does not even believe Jesus is the Son of God - their into works based salvation etc. My father was right to warn his brother, but the fighting argument was not right which I agreed with him but I also told my father that him correcting him was not wrong.
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Thank you again Enid for this word:

1 Tim 4v1-2 about giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons and having their conscience seared with a hot iron.

It's so very hard to come to terms with this word when it comes to my family - especially Bonnie. I had a Godly Fire still in my bones to warn her.

I had a dream about 7 months ago where I was walking outdoors and here came to the Moon and hit the earth about 2 football fields infront of them and the first thing that came to my heart and mind was "Where IS BONNIE". I went running to find her and I found her in a hospital and I took her out - due to what just happening - and when we got outdoors she was then able to walk.

That dream has been on my heart ever since. I know God is the only one to save Bonnie and He works through us at times, once we are whole enough and humble etc., to snatch others out of the fire. And if The Lord does use us we know it's all Him alway - it wasn't us - Jesus Is Lord.

Enid, these verses more shout to me when it comes to my sister (see below) And your so right Enid in 1 Tim 4 God may need to cause me to know that this is exactly where my sister will remain as He wills and you mentioning this to me might be God's first olive branch to me through you. But until it fully comes and it might, this for now is still what I constantly hear in my ears (when it comes to my sister):

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It is Written:
Jude 20-25

Jude 20

20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23----------> And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. And have mercy on some, who are doubting; 23 save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.

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Connie

You all,

I just noticed that "Keith Stewart" (this so-called pastor) deleted all his sermons in Jan-June 2009 and only has this current Sunday Sermon called: The High Cost of Living in Me-Ville

In this sermon he's trying to put a guilt trip you if you are not like the Emergent Church who are like them - 'christ followers'.

These emergent church are making believers look foolish if we do NOT become 'christ followers' like them. And their 'christ' is the false christ and so is that body of christ.

Their bible is the Eugene Peterson's word and if we are not into that 'bible' the true believers are selfish.

In this sermon (above mentioned) Keith mentions that he's reading a book called "*Generation Me" by Jean M. Twenge and he says it plain that "she happens to be is a Profession of Psychology at San Diego State University." And he goes on to quote her. You can see her (Jean's) book here: http://www.generationme.org/

From what is gathered from Jean's book that Keith so likes is that she 'tears down' so that she can then publish the United Nation's New Order Order that your 'dreams' only come trun IN THE COLLECTIVIE - IN THE GROUP THINK - IN THE "ONE WORLD ORDER".

Then in this same Sunday Sermon: "The High Cost of Living in Me-Ville" he mentions Victor Franco saying that 'he was a leading Psychologist'....and then quotes him and say's 'it's true'. Here's ther quote: "Don't aim at success - the more you aim at it and make it a target, the more you are going to miss it. For success, like happiness, cannot be pursued; it must ensue... as the unintended side-effect of one's personal dedication to a course greater than oneself." And that quote is written here: Viktor Frankl, Man's Search For Meaning

So in short, this so called pastor is quoting from what even Keith says "he's not a believer" from a non-believer who (what he calls) is a leading Psychologist, to his congregation and to my sister. And I've only listened to 14 minutes of this new Sunday Sermon so far. And he's listed 2 Psychologists so far.

Please keep praying for my sister!
And Keith.

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Connie

The sermons have not been deleted. They have been moved further down and the July-Dec 2009 sermons have replaced them

I think it's because June just ended.

Personally, I tend to turn a deaf ear to psychologist. Even so called Christian ones.

If this 'church' is all you say it is, then we have to see we don't get caught up in the deception that is taking place.

All we can do is pray.

enid, I see now your right thank you so very much. Amen - pray! Did you listen to the sermon, at least 10-15 minutes. From the start it sounds like they played a sound by 'Queen'. Incredible. Keith in the beginning quotes a pagan man to high-light how socially 'good' the disciples were, but it begs the question: Why did most of the disciples murdered then? Keith truly has an agenda (the United Nations - World View). You'll hear it, enid - if you listen to even the first 5 minutes you'll also hear the 'guilt trip' he lays on but he raves on 'springcreek' (of course).

He's more so introducing pagan folks who are Psychologiests and their sayings in this current 'me-ville' sermon.

Someone did a write up on Amazon on this lady's book whom Keith (my sister's pastor) highly esteemed and this man held nothing back:
See very top by G. Desjardins which he titled, A confused and confusing polemic, July 14, 2006

and then scoll down he wrote another one this year in May 2009:
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2ASG5YLNX98H4/ref=cm_cd_NOREF?%5Fencoding=UTF8&cdPage=2&newContentNum=14&cdMSG=addedToThread&cdSort=oldest&newContentID=Mx36BYS13WXRZU7#CustomerDiscussionsNRPB
(sorry for the long url but that is how Amazon does things, sorry)

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Connie