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| A E-mail to my sister - warning her of her 'save the planet' Pastor's Sermon: | | 1st of a few posts:
Here is my e-mail to my sister in full:
______________________________________________ >> From: Ron-Connie Lewis >> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:47 PM >> To: C, Bonnie >> Subject: 11 So shall my word,.........
________________________________________ >> Isa 55:10-13 >> >> 10 For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: >> >> 11 So shall my word ( _________________ Connie
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| 2009/6/26 8:34 | Profile | jsisrl Member
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| Re: A E-mail to my sister - warning her of her 'save the planet' Pastor | | My sister replied back:
____________________________________ Please take me off your list
Bottom line the message was that it is our responsibility as good Stewards to take care of the precious earth that GOD has given us to use – what He made for us was Good – we should want to leave it that way too
And you find bad in the message – amazing
Please take me off your list of emails –
Thank you __________________________________
I replied back:
Hi Bonnie, your not on any e-mail List, I have none nor ever will. And no, discern deeper Bonnie. I care for my own home-land yes neighbors tell Ron and I that our lawns are the best on the block. We don't glory in that because it's only God who gives the increase anyway. But what Keith is presenting is heathenism (man is man's own saviour etc.) What we are seeing today, from God's perspective, is His Judgment coming on the earth: Remember the Book of Revelation? Look what happens in there - things are destroyed because God is judging sin - for men loved the works of their own hands, the worshipping of demons (vain philosophy - which are doctrines of demons) rather than submitting to the Righteousness of God which is found in Christ Jesus our Lord (Isaiah 55), not twisting Is. 55 into 'saving the planet'. You are sitting under 'man' not a 'man after God's own heart' - but rather a humanist-environmental-technological-godless 'man-sermon.' It's indoctrination Bonnie which tots the Bible, says all the right stuff with much mixture to get it's 'process' across. Message received; "Humanism - Save the Planet". It's the same philosophy Bonnie, the public gov't. schools are teaching - there's only one Devil and he's very much at work. Discern it in prayer Bonnie, because something is wrong!
It's not of God nor any jealousy for His Word Bonnie. Discern it and test things what Keith is saying. He's a humanist Bonnie, can you not see it. With each sermon of his he is presenting 'a process' which brings God's Righteousness into question. To take Isaiah 55 and make it about 'saving the earth' rather what Isaiah 55 is saying, is heresy. It's philosophy Bonnie, vain deceit. Keith is a U2 humanist contributor - he's no 'true believer' Bonnie, he's out deceive you and your children. Love "protects," remember - even your huge christmas picture (you gave me) says so. Protect your children from this dialectic process - words, words, words, to no avail except rebellion to God. These Gnostic's Bonnie hate anything in regards to Obedience to God and The Fear of God etc. Keith is preaching 'a so called knowledge (science)' and that process makes inroads to faith to take others away from Faith in God. Have Faith in God Bonnie even about 'the earth'. Don't you remember Paul in Colossian's warning them about "philosophy and vain deceit" and to Timothy about 'so called knowledge'? Bonnie, I'm telling you in Jesus Name, the spirit of this age in Margaret would easily led her there if she was privy to Keith - she would be at home with his so called 'Father's Day' sermon because it upheld the care of 'the planet' rather than Honoring "Our Father's" (1 of the Ten Commandments). Protect others from the world-system in these types of churches Bonnie - Love is our Purpose so speak it out and speak it out in Love (to protect in Jesus name).
My sister wrote back:
_____________ ----- Original Message ----- From: C, Bonnie To: Ron-Connie Lewis Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: RE: 11 So shall my word,.........
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I wrote back to my sister:
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Protect your children and others from 'this process' Bonnie, that is Love. It does not 'delete' it protects. Blinders in this day and age is 'bad' Bonnie. ______________________________
My sister eventually, because I came back for her to answer what 'does' (God's Word) point out in Isaiah 55, for people to 'protect and save the planet' or does it point to Jesus Christ (God's ~word~), she eventually said this in her last e-mail to me:
_____________________________________ Then she (Bonnie) wrote to me: _____________ Sister In all honesty I believe you need therapy ______________ _________________ Connie
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| 2009/6/26 8:40 | Profile | jsisrl Member
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| Re: | | Hi you all,
This is the sermon I was warning my sister about:
It's on this page: http://www.springcreekchurch.org/archives.html
Then to get to the sermon click on "Janurary-June 2209" and then see the top (if you see this before this next Sunday) sermon click on "This Is My Father's World".
Notice, this was an emergent churches Sermon on Father's Day!
God bless. _________________ Connie
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| 2009/6/26 8:44 | Profile | enid Member
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| Re: | | I only listend to about 10 minutes of the message, but that was all I could take.
We, as Christians, can't have dual focus.
It is either on God or this earth.
You can sense it's more like a humanitarian 'we have to do something about this' feel in what they are doing. But using scripture at the same time.
Maybe your sister understands more than she is letting on.
Just pray. What else can you do?
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| 2009/6/26 9:24 | Profile | jsisrl Member
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| Re: | | enid thank you.
I've listened to it 3 times, and the more I listened to more I heard more twisting of God's word.
For instance:
I've listened to this Father's Day sermon 3 times now (as mentioned) of my sisters (so called) Pastor and picking up things I missed the others times: This pastor said that if you help protect the planet that you will connect with God. (Contrast to: John 14:6) He also mentioned: If others see you protecting the planet that others will see God. (Contrast to: John 3:3) _________Example - from the sermon this same Pastor Keith Stewart said: ___ He says: Quote: "This is the wonder of 'Creation!' is that that that when we manage it properly when we take seriously our Charge! that He gave to the first man and women to protect this place that people see and connect with God."
____ He says: Quote: "This is the marching order of the Church. To help people see the more clearly see The Living God both in our example and in everything that God has made."
This is his youtube by the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhvKMVRtJrg
He deletes any of my wholesome comments to him in that video.
And when I lovingly corrected him (in 2 e-mails) in another sermon on his twisting of Col. 2:20-22 he reported me in Facebook. And Facebook, when I contacted them will not 'tell me' why they gave me a warning, they said this:
_______________________________________________ Hi Connie,
Unfortunately, we cannot provide additional information regarding this issue. For more information on conduct prohibited by Facebook, please read our Terms of Use, which can be accessed by clicking on the "terms" link at the bottom of any Facebook page.
If you have any further questions, please visit our Help Center at the following address:
http://www.facebook.com/help.php ______________________________________
_________________ Connie
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| 2009/6/26 10:07 | Profile | jsisrl Member
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| Re: read from bottom up~ | | Continuing: Please read from bottom-up beginning with the bottom url page.
_____________________ You all, and like I said at the end our our conversation she says" Sister In all Honesty I believe you need therapy. ______________________
************************************************ MY SISTER (C, Bonnie) WROTE ME: ----- Original Message ----- From: C, Bonnie (DALLAS, TX-EY) To: Ron-Connie Lewis Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:21 PM Subject: RE: I do have this question for you fruity? Please practice patience with me now.
GO POLLUTE AND LEAVE ME ALONE
__________________________________________ From: Ron-Connie Lewis [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:20 PM To: C, Bonnie Bonnie-home Carter Subject: I do have this question for you fruity? Please practice patience with me now.
__________________ Romans: 13:13 Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying. 2 Cor. 11: 12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
__________ Bonnie, I ask you, was the Apostle Paul in strife and envy when he willed to 'cut off occasion from them which desire occasion' - them meaning: (v 13), 'false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ?
The desired occasion Bonnie with Keith and all the other 'go green' churches (so called) out there is humanism 'to save the planet' which is only a cloak to murder believers who preach Godly restraint to whosoever will's to listen: The Gospel which tells men to deny themselves, pick up their cross and come and follow -------------> Jesus Christ. Bonne, U2 (the band) is what Keith is of - they are not believers Bonnie and you are not going before a man who preaches on his stage the Words of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ but who merely exalts himself and his own works. That is humanism-Gnosticism-Socialism etc. They are deceivers Bonnie.
----- Original Message ----- From: Ron-Connie Lewis To: C, Bonnie Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:07 PM Subject: Jesus' Christ's Blood proved people needed saving - not the Planet Bonnie.
-------it (Love) does not rejoice in wrongdoing, but rejoices in the truth.
Bonnie, are you aware that what Keith is preaching is 'wrongdoing' it does not rejoice in the truth - (hear me out please - be patient here) if he were he would have rejoiced in the truth of Isaiah 55 which points to God's 'word' - to JESUS CHRIST.
The rest of this e-mail is here: http://home1.gte.net/web23vhn/Warnings.htm (for some reason it wouldn't post here. _________________ Connie
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| 2009/6/26 10:35 | Profile | jsisrl Member
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| Re: | | mod please remove. _________________ Connie
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| 2009/6/26 11:02 | Profile |
| Re: Bow down to mother earth and her husband Baal. | | In the ancient world, The worship of Earth, and Baal worship,the worship of the Sun, had leavened itself into every nation tribe and tongue. There was however a remnant. The great Job, the most ancient book in the Bible, writes of his abhorrence of bowing down before the idols associated with the Sun, and the Creation. Job saw it as Satanic, and evil.
Also, the great apostle Paul writes, in Romans 1, inspired by the Creator Himself, His abhorrence of a mankind that exalts and worships Creation, above the Creator. He continues with the argument that "they are without excuse" for the order of the Universe spells it out for them; God created the Earth and all within it, along with the Natural cosmos, and nothing that was made, was made, except by Him, and through Him.
This wicked order of worship, Baal worship, was never eradicated, and after Noah, was solidified and centralized at Babylon. Even today, the Roman Catholic church exhibits all of the symbols of Baal worship, being the most direct descendant of it we know in the west. I would have to say that perhaps Hindi culture would be the icon of it in the East.
The Sun is God, and the Earth is the Mother, and we as a people must both sacrifice to her to appease her, and protect and venerate her to please her. Whales, cows, rats and even bugs become more important than people, and to save one is to save the other. Man is but the empowered priests, stewards, that might ensure that She, mother Earth is not offended. Unborn babies then become part of the primal orgasmic pump, the same as the blind albino minnows that dwell in a cave that have their own rights to survive; especially in the face of cruel man's progress. Mankind is the enemy, and we must decrease after all,and this is another attempt to return to Paradise where mother will take care of us IF we take care of HER.....worship.
To understand this completely, you must see that to these devotees, the Earth is alive, with a personality; a being to be feared and honored. She is a God. This is New age Humanism, that is morphing beyond the secular ideas of science, into the reality of an ancient Religion.
I also listened to as much of this video as I could stomach. This man is but a New Age motivational speaker/apologist. This is the thing; It is a SPIRIT! A seducing anti-Christ spirit. What is the anti-Christ except he who denies the Son? I fear the leaven has won out here. There is no gospel , no adoration of Jesus and honor of HIS sacrifice, or any holy preaching of His Word. It is essentially a feel good Pagan meeting, with some forms and terminology of true Christianity. I agree with our brother who counseled to pray, for it seems her heart is hardened, and she has no ears to hear.
We cry, "HELP LORD JESUS!", as we see our loved ones trapped and bound.
Tom
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| 2009/6/26 11:12 | | jsisrl Member
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| Re: | | Tom,
Thank you for the encouragement Tom that post was for real. But to Bonnie, I'm the one who needs 'therapy'??? *sigh*
_____________ Please pray for my sister Bonnie, she's a precious one (lost but I love her dearly) but with many blinders on.
Did you try to muster his "Father's Day" sermon which he turned into 'save the planet - because this IS my Father's World of course':
_________________ This is the sermon I was warning my sister about: It's on this page: http://www.springcreekchurch.org/archives.html
Then to get to the sermon click on "January-June 2209" and then see the top (if you see this before this next Sunday) sermon click on "This Is My Father's World".
_________________ Connie
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| 2009/6/26 11:45 | Profile | jsisrl Member
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| Re: | | Hi again you all,
A few friends wrote me this about my situation with Bonnie yesterday:
#1:_________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Bk To: 'Ron-Connie Lewis' Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:20 PM Subject: RE:
That’s amazing! Is. 55 has nothing to do with environmentalism; it has everything to do with recognizing God’s absolute sovereignty, preeminence and promises. No, I haven’t heard that particular assertion before.
#2:_________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Wk To: Ron-Connie Lewis Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Fw: 11 So shall my word,.........
Is she using pride to attack what she perceives as pride? That is hypocritical. Having her friends make fun of you saying that you're over the top does not stop strife, that's just cheap. Just because someone has beliefs that you don't agree with doesn't give them free reign to mock you. She should be ashamed of herself if she wants to perpetuate peace. _______________________________________________
I've also asked a few Pastor's to listen to "Keith Stewart" to get their discernment on his "Father's Day" sermon. Still waiting for their replies if any.
Thanks you all. Really.
_________________ Connie
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