These are two quotes from Leonard Ravenhills sermon "Choosing rather to suffer" with my few thoughts on each one."The preacher who can preach without tears shouldn't be preaching, he should be fired." Leonard Ravenhill Any man can preach, but only Gods men know how to weep. A sure sign that our like Jesus is to be a "man of sorrows, aquanted with greive". Preachers today don't weep because they don't have the heart of God. If they dont have the heart of God then why do we trust them to have the word of God??? heres another quote: " He (Jesus) did not have the fastest growing church. You belong to the fastest growing church? Theres something wrong with it! Jesus had the fastest desolving church." LR Many in our day believe that because somebody is the pastor of a mega church that it means they must be a man of God and that God is blessing them. It's not true, the devil is cursing them. The bible says that in these days, the last days, false teachers and false prophets would have many followers. It never said that the preachers of righteousness would have many followers, rather it said they would be thrown in jail and hated just like their master Jesus was.
Lazarus1719 wrote:Preachers today don't weep because they don't have the heart of God. If they dont have the heart of God then why do we trust them to have the word of God???
" He (Jesus) did not have the fastest growing church. You belong to the fastest growing church? Theres something wrong with it! Jesus had the fastest desolving church." LR
_________________Zeke Oosthuis
Tears are only an outward sign of an inward stirring or it may just be an emotional response. In the context of how he was using it, I think he is referring more to a brokeness of heart, than to tears as the object. After all Essau sought his blessing with tears and it meant nothing.
_________________SI Moderator - Greg Gordon
These are two quotes from Leonard Ravenhills sermon "Choosing rather to suffer" with my few thoughts on each one.
"Do you know God?"-Leonard Ravenhill (excerpt from: [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=4557]Choosing Rather to Suffer[/url])
I would really recommend people to listen to this message! It is very powerful and cuts deep into the heart. Strangely enough, it seems to be one of Ravenhill's least downloaded messages... I guess that could have something to do with the title... :-/ Choosing rather to suffer. I remember Katz talking about suffering in one of his messages, saying: "Sorry for speaking the nasty word, I know we're not supposed to." May God move us to that place in Him where we can say with Paul that we glory in tribulation. If we can say THAT honestly, it will surely no longer be we who live, but it will be Christ who lives in us.
_________________Rikard Eriksson