HATE BILL HEARINGS CONTINUE APRIL 23!By Rev. Ted Pike22 Apr 09 Preceded by a vehement "Jesus Christ!" (not meant to be recorded), House Judiciary chairman Rep. John Conyers began the hearing he had tried to prevent. Predicted by homosexual leaders not to hold hearings on his federal hate crimes bill, HR 1913, he was forced by public outrage to expose his bill to congressional and even worldwide scrutiny.By profaning the name of his Creator, Conyers, with twisted appropriateness, introduced the first round of systematic efforts by Obama and the Democrats to pass Christian-persecuting federal hate crimes legislation. This is the same kind of thought crime laws that increasingly are taking away free speech in the western world. But it will not be just Christians who will suffer under the jackboot of this Orwellian bill. This legislation will ultimately silence all whose independence of mind and speech offends the New World Order.Pugnacious Republican Judiciary members fought back hard! They responded with powerful argumentation and through many amendments, attempting to de-fang or water down HR 1913. Through these amendments, they were able to focus discussion on all aspects of hate bill flaws and potential abuses. In doing so, they attempted to sway Conyers and closed-minded Judiciary Democrats. But they also enlightened an international audience. Because I was able on Tuesday's very large "Point of View" broadcast to direct listeners to today's hearings on the Judiciary website, many thousands worldwide received an eye-opening, first-class education from these Republican legal experts.Here are some of the Republican heroes of the day and what they said.Hate Bill Hall of Praise Rep. Bob Goodlatte began the Republican offensive, calling HR 1913 "misguided legislation." His first amendment proposed that, if we are going to grant special federal rights and protection to homosexual victims of crime, why not afford the elderly, also widespread crime victims, the same privilege? He also proposed an amendment providing a special "bar of protection" statement in the bill absolutely ensuring that this legislation can never be used to threaten free speech. He suggested the bill should give pregnant women and their unborn children special protection -- a request vigorously countered by Rep. Robert Scott who said the Supreme Court had declared an unborn child is not a human and has no rights.Rep. Louie Gohmert also rose to the occasion. He emphasized that the original 1968 hate law, which HR 1913 amends (Title 18 USC, Section 2a), stipulates that anyone whose rhetoric induces commission of a hate crime "by a nut" can be tried as a federal hate criminal along with the active offender. This includes those who quote the Bible's or the Koran's condemnations of sodomy. He criticized Conyers for not allowing the bill to first be subjected to vigorous analysis by the Subcommittee on Crime. Rather, he said it "was pushed forward to markup without proper preparation." So hasty was this hearing that the usual witnesses from both sides of the issue, a necessary part of the legislative fact-finding process, were omitted. This was not the case two years ago in Judiciary hearings on Conyers' previous hate bill, HR 1592.A dramatic moment was provided when Gohmert, backed by Goodlatte and Rep. Darrell Issa, proposed that a federal hate law be implemented only when states that do not have hate laws fail to enforce justice against hate criminals. Conyers was momentarily taken aback by this unique proposal. But Democrats loudly protested (correctly) that this amendment would destroy federal sovereignty of the hate bill in all states!Reps. King, Forbes, Franks, Issa, and Rooney presented a variety of other provocative amendments. Rep. King was especially powerful in argumentation for several amendments he proposed. He requested an amendment deleting the terms "gender identity" and "perceived sexual orientation." He demanded from Rep. Tammy Baldwin a concise definition of those terms. He never got it. He demanded to know how a bill established on such a sleazy legal substratum could be Constitutional and not overthrown by the courts. Democrats could only evade his questions. King proposed an amendment that HR 1913 be accurately titled as a "thought crimes bill." Finally, he told Conyers he had a total of 10 amendments prepared and was just getting started! Reluctantly, Conyers agreed to schedule another hearing on Thursday, April 23. Tune in at 10 o'clock a.m. EDT at http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/caltoday.html.Clearly, just as all Republican amendments were rejected, the hate bill will be passed by lock-stepping liberal House Democrats tomorrow. Almost as certainly, it will be voted on by the end of the month. Don't wait. Protest to your House member and your Senators tomorrow morning. It is especially important to start calling members of the Senate, where we stand a much greater chance of victory -- probably through filibuster. Call many Senators! Their names are listed here on the action pageThe Senate hate bill version will soon be introduced and undoubtedly will move through the Senate as quickly as it is the House -- unless we again demand hearings!Call 1-877-851-6437 toll free or 1-202-225-3121 toll. Tell Congressional offices: "Please don't vote for the hate crimes bill HR 1913. Hate laws have taken away free speech in Canada and many European countries." Also ask staffers to watch the powerful, 10-minute videos which document the danger of hate laws on www.truthtellers.org.The convergence of adequate, last-minute warnings, public pressure on Conyers and Judiciary Democrats to hold hearings, plus a very prepared Republican contingent in Judiciary (stimulated by three and a half months of public calling) has exploded in an explosion of truth about the danger of hate laws. This truth undoubtedly is even now reverberating through Congress and the internet worldwide. Every lover of freedom can be enormously proud, at least on the hate bill issue, of our fighting Judiciary Republicans!
I was just now reading [url=http://www.thetreeofliberty.com/vb/showthread.php?s=4bb8fd9316e160a5fe2bb81d1cc2817f&t=59722]here[/url] that they already passed this bill last week.Sigh.
not yet, look like it will go to senate. we still have chance to pray !
You are correct Friend. The bill, H.R. 1913 has passed the judiciary, and the House of Representatives - next to the Senate.Praying & fasting just for more time to keep the 1st Amendment, but my prayers are not with any faith in this Nation anymore. If GOD stops this Bill for now - we'll just have a bit more time to preach the Love of GOD [Jn 3:16].They just permitted gay marriage in the 5th State. 4 out of the 5 are New England States.
You all understand this bill has nothing to do with speech? The bill is only a few pages long, you may want to read through the whole thing. It only protects against violent attacks that cause physical injury or death which are motivated by religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc.There is actually a specific clause at the end protecting free speech.With care in Christ,Taylor
Taylor...My issue with this is not to what extent this is passed. My concern is by what this government is calling "hate." Since it is a FEDERAL law, it has the potential of being used against any act that is deemed "hate" by a new, federal definition. Yes, there are some clauses to protect "free speech" -- but the problem is with the definition of "hate" in the first place. Oddly enough, it is "politically correct" to mock Christianity (or ideology that is based upon Christian teaching). These legislators are effectively trying to place those who are disgusted by the sin of homosexuality (and the parade for special rights by those who embrace this sin) into the same category as racists, terrorists, and plain evil men. Murder and violence is wrong...period. However, God has called each of us to HATE sin. Homosexuality is sin. We can hate that sin. We can preach against that sin. However, these activists are attempting to force the government into defining what is right and wrong according to their own flawed morality (or lack thereof). Is it no wonder that homosexual activists are becoming more and more bold since the inauguration? We now have five states who embrace the concept of homosexual "holy matrimony" -- with three doing so within the past two months. We have a government that is now attempting to define morality while excluding the faith upon which much of western morality is based. It is, indeed, a sign of the times.
When will Christian/Catholic persecution begin? Shalom, all! http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2009/01/23/8125116-cp.htmlvarious stories detailing issues of hate and anger being expressed towards Christians and Catholics (i.e., Pro-Life marchers in San Francisco being referred to as "terrorists") makes me want to see how many people believe we as Christians and Catholics will be experiencing true persecution in the near future. By persecution I mean physical attacks, lack of police support stopping attacks, losing jobs, losing friends, an increase in public anti-Christian/Catholic sentiment as shown by newspaper editorials and such, restrictions on public discussion of Christianity and its beliefs; that sort of thing.obama said this The first thing Id do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. Thats the first thing Id do.what is The Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) would eliminate every restriction on abortion nationwide.FOCA will do away with state laws on parental involvement, on partial birth abortion, and on all other protections. FOCA will compel taxpayer funding of abortions. FOCA will force faith-based hospitals and healthcare facilities to perform abortions. previous post Christ said " Is it no wonder that homosexual activists are becoming more and more bold since the inauguration? We now have five states who embrace the concept of homosexual "holy matrimony" -- with three doing so within the past two months. " I believe in some ways it has already started. When you have someone who is asked a question about her thoughts on gay marriage and answers honestly and then is attacked for it(it happened on USA pageant 2009) ; I would say that it is already beginning. The message is loud and clear if you believe in the teachings of the church or the Bible than you better watch out or you will be attacked for being strong in your faith. When you have Pro-Life Catholics/Christians being put on a list of people who the DHS(Department of Homeland Security consider a threat to the USA than I think it has started. Those are just a couple of cases, but I think you get the general idea.what has the new president done to this country ? LET US PRAY AND PRAY HARD. WE ARE LOSING OUR GROUND