Greetings

I wanted to say thanks to everyone who shared what Father had for them here with me. It has given me much to think and pray about. The most important thing for me is to walk out what Fathers heart in all of this is. I know that He will always be there and care for me. I also know that even if I loose everything in this life and find myself with nothing left but Jesus then I will still have everything that I could possibly need, He truly is my all and all!

God Bless you brothers and sisters
MJ

Found this in SI archives;

TOMMY HICKS' END-TIMES VISION.
exerpt;

...And this is the miracle of it - this is the glorious miracle of
it - those people would stretch forth their hands exactly as the
Lord did, and it seemed as if there was this same liquid fire in
their hands. As they stretched forth their hands they said, "Ac-
cording to my word, be thou made whole."

As these people continued in this mighty end-time ministry, I
did not fully realize what it was, and I looked to the Lord and
said, "What is the meaning of this?" And he said, "This is that
which I will do in the last days. I will restore all that the
cankerworm, the palmerworm, the caterpiller - I will restore all
that they have destroyed. This, my people, in the end times will
go forth. As a mighty army shall they sweep over the face of the
earth."

As I was at this great height, I could behold the whole world. I
watched these people as they were going to and fro over the face
of the earth. Suddenly there was a man in Africa and in a moment
he was transported by the Spirit of God, and perhaps he was in
Russia, or China or America or some other place, and vice versa.
All over the world these people went, and they came through fire,
and through pestilence, and through famine. Neither fire nor per-
secution, nothing seemed to stop them.

There is certainly a lot about our future here that we should be concerned about. We need to be smart. We need to prepare.

But at the same time, I remember all the hype over Y2K... heard sermons about it... churches and Christians freaking out about it.

My alarm clock buzzed the next morning like it always does... and nothing happened, and many Christians looked like kooks.

Then there was this atom smasher a couple months ago. People even on this website saying "we're all gonna die tomorrow"... even tho if you know scripture you knew that was impossible.

Again... my alarm clock buzzed the next morning like it always does... and nothing happened, and many Christians looked like kooks.

The wise man will do as Joseph did in Egypt, and be prepared. But those without faith will freak out and worry.

What's the worst thing that can happen? We die? Big deal.

Krispy

While everyone is freaking out, there are voices of reason out there. Yes, things are bad... but we need to look at history.

Here are some FACTS about todays economic meltdown cmompared to other historical meltdowns.

The following is excerpted from Bradley Schiller, [b]“Obama’s Rhetoric”[/b], The Wall Street Journal, Feb. 13, 2009:

“President Barack Obama has turned fearmongering into an art form. ... As he tells it, today’s economy is the worst since the Great Depression. Without his Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he says, the economy will fall back into that abyss and may never recover. This fearmongering may be good politics, but it is bad history and bad economics. It is bad history because our current economic woes don’t come close to those of the 1930s. At worst, a comparison to the 1981-82 recession might be appropriate. Consider the job losses that Mr. Obama always cites. In the last year, the U.S. economy shed 3.4 million jobs. That’s a grim statistic for sure, but represents just 2.2% of the labor force. ... 1981-82 job losses totaled 2.2% of the labor force, the same as now. ... In 1930, the economy shed 4.8% of the labor force. In 1931, 6.5%. And then in 1932, another 7.1%. ... The latest survey pegs U.S. unemployment at 7.6%. That’s more than three percentage points below the 1982 peak (10.8%) and not even a third of the peak in 1932 (25.2%). ... Real gross domestic product (GDP) rose in 2008, despite a bad fourth quarter. The Congressional Budget Office projects a GDP decline of 2% in 2009. ... It is nothing like 1930, when GDP fell by 9%, or 1931, when GDP contracted by another 8%, or 1932, when it fell yet another 13%. Auto production last year declined by roughly 25%. That looks good compared to 1932, when production shriveled by 90%. The failure of a couple of dozen banks in 2008 just doesn’t compare to over 10,000 bank failures in 1933, or even the 3,000-plus bank (Savings & Loan) failures in 1987-88. Stockholders can take some solace from the fact that the recent stock market debacle doesn’t come close to the 90% devaluation of the early 1930s. ... A more cool-headed assessment of the economy's woes might produce better policies.”

Greetings krispy
Thanks for posting these very good reminders. I don't want to react in fear but rather walk in Him and what He may have me. I have been praying about this with my husband and for now he feels we should continue to walk out what Father has shown us about getting out of debt. we are planning also to buy a few extria canned goods and keep the freezer full as we have but we are not going to go overboard.
our faith is in Him and no matter what comes I need to stand firm on the rock of Christ Jesus! I want to walk out daily in Him and what He has for me. Jesus is everything and I never want loose sight of that!

God bless
Mj


God bless
Mj

MJ, the Lord's never told me anything to tell anyone else, but it was always to straighten me out. So my comments are for me and me alone.

If I stockpile food and supplies, and place my faith in those goods, I am lost. If I buy gold and silver to protect me against hyperinflation and place my faith in those things, again, I'm lost. Any god or idol I put faith in will fail. My faith must first be in my Lord. But, IMO, that doesn't mean I can't prepare for bad times.

Reducing debt is always a good move. And having food stored is also a good thing to do. My folks grew up during the depression, and from their experiences, we always had a garden, canned our food, raised our own chickens, beef and pork, all on 1-1/2 acres in Houston. It wasn't disbelief in God to do so, it was considered common sense.

I believe we're going to experience hard times like we've never seen before. My wife and I are stocking up. We're reducing our debt. Rather than put all of our savings in a bank account, which could be ravaged by a devalued dollar, we buy items we feel might be needed in the future, including a small amount of precious metals.

Our small church has several elderly couples and widows that would be the hardest hit. I felt led to start stockpiling for them as well. I started to mention it to the pastor, but the Lord didn't tell me to, so I didn't. No need to have my pastor think I'm a nut!

My God created in me a strong desire to provide for and protect my family. I thank Him for it. And I thank Him for giving me time to build my ark for when the storm comes. I don't dishonor Him by preparing, because I first believe in Him and His tender mercies.

Just my thoughts, not the Lord's. God's blessings to you both.

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Don

Greetings brothers and sisters

I wanted to tell everyone that I am thankful for your willingness to share with me about this. Its good to hear what Father has shown everyone and how each of you is walking it out daily. This I will admit has been very difficult time for me. To be completely truthful I really struggle with the sin of worry, and fear. I read the news, and the things that are being shared about future end times and I have to really be in prayer and seeking Him, because in my flesh I want to give into the fear and go out and charge up my credit cards to buy as much food and necessities as possible. This fear and worry is something that I have struggled with for most of my life. When I was a child, my dad didn't work. There were seven children in my family and for the most part we lived on welfare. It was difficult because there were actually times when there was no food in the house. I can remember spending the time waiting for the sisters(nuns) to stop by and bring us boxes of food from the food banks. As a small child it was frightening there was no sense of security at all. Even after I was saved I really struggled for a long time with not trusting in the Lord to provide. I use to go to the store several times a week just to make sure I had enough and sometimes even more then enough of everything on hand just in case. My cupboards would be so filled with food that I actually would run out of places to put it. My husband counted and at one time I actually had over a hundred cans of soup in the house. I was actually terrified of the thought of an empty cupboard, I couldn't bare it. I know that sounds crazy to some and yet the fear about not having enough for my family and those around me at times has been so strong that it actually consumed all my thoughts. A little over a year ago, through much prayer Jesus really helped me to see that this area of my life was sin and that by doubting Him I was really saying "Jesus your just not big enough to care for me so I have to do it myself." I had to repent of my heart and attitude of doubting, and lack of faith that Jesus would care for me just as He said He would. Father opened my eyes to see and understand that I really needed to change the way I saw things. I needed to understand that even if I lost everything in this life, even my physical life that it did not matter because I would still be His child. He was and is faithful to see me safely home with Him. I have spent many hours in prayer before Him, crying out, repenting, and seeking His heart in all of this. As I look to the rapidly changing times around me, I want to use His wisdom in the choices that I make and not fall back into old sinful self attitudes and heart of walking in fear and doubt. I realize that Father gives us understanding of the times and prepares us according to His good purpose to be about His kingdom business. I pray that each of us hears His voice and is faithful to walk out what He has for us in these times.

God Bless
Maryjane

For anyone to pin this on President Obama is just wrong, and betrays their political leanings. Forget pinning this mess on one political party, or one man, the seeds of this impending fiscal disaster lay at all of our doorsteps.

You all want to be "one nation"?

Then we should all 'own' this, it's us.

I have no idea what 'think tank' Bradley Schiller crawled out of, but I read the same statistic's he should be privy to, and this is bad. Worse than you can even imagine.

First, the difference between the depression of the 30's and now, is that one, we are a 'consumption' driven economy with a negative savings rate, and much of the currency that oils this GLOBAL economy is 'electronic', meaning that in the time it takes me to type this sentence I can transfer one billion dollars from the Northern Trust Bank in Chicago to UBS in Switzerland, and then to a branch of ING in Toyko, which means that "bank runs" aren't the familiar pictures of poor sods lined outside a 30's bank, bank runs can happen in the blink of an eye, in an trading room, all across the world.

secondly, the other difference between the 30's and now, is that our wired world, meaning the global economy, is just that, global, interconected and dependent. Therefore, when multinational companies decided that US labor was too expensive, we lost our manufacturing base...to whom? The PEOPLE's Republic of China, a communist nation. Take a stroll down any walmarts lane, pick up an item, and see where it was manufactured? the PRC.

We do have three bases of production left, meaning we maintain a trade surplus with the rest of the world, agriculture, which is good, but pity the poor farmer who is only able to sell the raw material, ie. yellow number two corn, or hard red winter wheat, because he cant ADD VALUE to this product, and as time has shown, if you cant add value to an ag product, you get the lowest price, he cant take this wheat, grind it into flour, and bake billions of loaves of bread, no. That farmer can only TAKE what ADM or Cargill, or Conti, or whatever multinational grain trader is going to give him at the country elevator. We also maintain a trade surplus in entertainment content, and I'm not even going to go into that, because thats what the world SEES of America, and its not a pretty picture, considering the sewage that flows from those pipelines, and third, we are the largest arms dealers to the world. We build the best weapons systems, and every nation wants them, because they're the best, and isnt that swell? and as you know, weapons systems only have one purpose, KILL PEOPLE....or, should I say, "kill the enemy", and we sing, "God's grace shine on thee"?..

I could refute every single one of Schiller's stat's, but I dont want to bore you. let me just give you two things to think about, the "toxic assets" (CDO's, CDW's) that overhang the economy and have yet to be dealt with, total about 64 TRILLION dollars. Nobodies dealt with them, because nobody knows what they're worth, and if a trader cant valuate an asset, he wont be biding on it. Those CDO's are everybodys bundled up mortgages and credit card obligations....that's our mess, and nobody can assign value. 64 trillion dollars, and the second thing to think about is money supply, which we have ramped up between 200 and 300% every month, we're trying to print our way out of this mess, and it wont work, its going to kill the dollar, simple as that. No, this isnt 81-82, nor is it the 30's depression, this is something altogether new, strange and different, we're in uncharted waters.

go look at Pastor Wilkerson's "thus saith", is that fear mongering?

in Jesus' love, neil

God bless you for sharing all your heart, you're not alone,