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rreighe
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 Re: read please.

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There is something that has always struck me as odd about the 2012 controversy. What do people expect the Mayan calendar to be? Infinite? They had to stop the calendar somewhere



i was just thinking that! haha.... awsome.

oh and my freind pointed this out. the 2000 computer chash y2k mess was at 2000, ok 6 years later the 2006 june 6th. now 6 years later we have 2012 which is 6 years later. i wouldn't put it past me to just see another one "happening" at 2018 or something like it....

glad i know who's side i chose.

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(this is a true story....)
ok someone i know what like "i got this feeling that in the year 2012 there is going to be a nuclear hulicost and all of the satanic people are going to fight against the christian people."

and i was like "dude that isn't true"
he said "how do you know?"
me: "becuase it isn't true unless it is from scripture and from GOD himself."
him: "i know what i said was true and from GOD becuase i had a feeling"



dude needs some serius praying...
morgan is his name.


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allan

 2009/1/26 19:24Profile
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Most of you may not remember but back in 1988 Edgar C. Whisenant, who was a NASA scientist and a Bible scholar, predicted that the rapture would occur in 1988. He wrote and widely distributed a book "88 Reasons why the Rapture will be in 1988". You can google his name and read more about him.

Anyhow, as of this writing Jesus still had not returned. There will never be a dearth of false prophets. I have already seen websites of men who will claim they are Jesus Christ! If it would not be so serious it would be hilarious! I mean: how dumb can people get? Not only is the impostor weird, the followers are equally misguided. If these impostors would have no following, it seems to me the problem would go away. But alas, human nature....

ginnyrose


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Sandra Miller

 2009/1/26 20:29Profile
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Ginny, I think he wrote 89 reasons why Christ will return in 1989 the following year. Not sure of that; just something I heard.

I think it is foolishness to even try to guess when Christ will return when He himself does not even know, only the Father.

But if we are guessing, I'd like to see it happen 12/31/11 @ 11:59pm - just to spite everyone!

I also wanted to point out that the Mayan's base their guess on astrology. It has something to do with the 13th Zodiac reappearing in the sky. This is nothing but pagan ritual and belief.


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Ben Fuehrer

 2009/1/27 13:18Profile
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The world is coming to an end in 2012????!!!! :eek:

Why didn't anybody tell me?!

There's still so much I haven't done...

1. Base-jump off a bridge
2. Visit the Great Wall of China
3. Feed sharks off the Great Barrier Reef
4. Climb Mt. Everest
5. ......

I'd love to talk to you guys some more, but we've got less than 3 years to finish living... thanks for the warning! :-P


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Buck Yates

 2009/1/27 14:46Profile
rreighe
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 Re: yes... (no it wont i think)

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by graceamazed on 2009/1/27 10:46:34

The world is coming to an end in 2012????!!!!

Why didn't anybody tell me?!

There's still so much I haven't done...

1. Base-jump off a bridge
2. Visit the Great Wall of China
3. Feed sharks off the Great Barrier Reef
4. Climb Mt. Everest
5. ......

I'd love to talk to you guys some more, but we've got less than 3 years to finish living... thanks for the warning!



haha i hope that you are being sarcastic! dude that is funny (only if you were being sarcastic).

notice that there will be false prophets and christ so that fits into that category. oh well... i think. the best we can do realy is just pray and spread the word, the real Word.


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allan

 2009/1/27 18:21Profile
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 Very curious

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There's still so much I haven't done... 1. Base-jump off a bridge 2. Visit the Great Wall of China 3. Feed sharks off the Great Barrier Reef 4. Climb Mt. Everest 5. ......



[b][color=CC3300]And Jesus answering said unto him(the devil), It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. (Luke 4:12)[/color][/b]

Do you actually believe God called you to do these things? I ask this because I do not believe that is so.

Perhaps you posted off the top of your head and you would really be spending the remainder of your short life for the Lord and not for self. I pray that is the case.

white stone


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Janice

 2009/1/27 18:47Profile
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 Re: Very curious

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White_Stone wrote:
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There's still so much I haven't done... 1. Base-jump off a bridge 2. Visit the Great Wall of China 3. Feed sharks off the Great Barrier Reef 4. Climb Mt. Everest 5. ......



[b][color=CC3300]And Jesus answering said unto him(the devil), It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. (Luke 4:12)[/color][/b]

Do you actually believe God called you to do these things? I ask this because I do not believe that is so.

Perhaps you posted off the top of your head and you would really be spending the remainder of your short life for the Lord and not for self. I pray that is the case.

white stone



White_Stone,
Yes, this was only a bit of humor... if I had only hours or days left to live then I would not fill it up by pursuing any of the adventures on this list. However, if opportunity arises in this life, I would love to take part in some of these adventures. I went skydiving a couple of years ago and love it! I highly recommend it. I also enjoy riding motorcycles at times and I often go rock repelling with some of the guys from my church. I love to do many of these things and have found that I can know God and enjoy Him in the midst of these hobbies. By your posts, I gather that you like gardening... I pray that you enjoy gardening and have perhaps experienced the glory of God in different aspects of your hobby, just as I have in some of my hobbies. Are my hobbies any more of a vain, self-centered pursuit than yours? What if I said to you, "I would hope that if you only had a designated amount of time left on the earth then you would not spend it gardening and serving self, but rather serving the Lord. Do you really believe that God has called you to gardening, because I don't believe that it is so?"

Reality is, we do only have a finite amount of time alotted to us on this earth, so why would we do anything but seek to serve God with everyday as though it were our last? I want that to be my aim, but I don't take that to mean that I must be standing on a street corner crying out for people to repent and handing out tracts 24/7. I seek to live for God when I'm spending time with my daughters and/or my wife; I seek to live for God when I'm operating my business and working with clients; I seek to live for God when I'm witnessing to people on the streets or preaching from a pulpit; and I seek to glorify and know God as I'm riding a motorcycle or kyaking down a river.

So, whether you eat or drink (or garden or climb mountains) do all things to the glory of God!


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Buck Yates

 2009/1/27 21:53Profile
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Dear graceamazed,

Clarification that it was humor would have sufficed.

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I pray that you enjoy gardening and have perhaps experienced the glory of God in different aspects of your hobby, just as I have in some of my hobbies.


My hobby as you call it, feeds myself and my husband and we were fortunate to have excess to share with some others who could use it. It is a food garden. God gifts me with lovely flowers on the plants before they bare fruit but I do not plant them for the beauty or the rush of digging. I can admit to a great deal of excitement and anticipation after the seeds are put into the ground. A week later, you will find me, early every morning, walking the rows looking for 'signs of life.' That is a miracle I will never tire of seeing and by His marvelous Grace he allows me to take part in it. The peace I find when I go out to the garden each afternoon and pick our daily meal is also a gift from my Lord Jesus.

Perhaps you could explain to me how jumping out of a plane feeds your family. What will happen to them IF the chute fails? You gave up the luxury of that life style when you accepted the responsibility of family life. Would you really want to risk orphaning your children? Or, perhaps, saddling your wife with a cripple? Have you seriously considered these circumstances and said, 'Nah, never happen to me. I know what I'm doing?' I beg you to talk with God about your interest in 'risky' activities. I pray He will lead you into doing something constructive with your spare time. Just because you are rock climbing with members of your Church does not speak well of the Church, sounds more like a Social Club. Don't they teach responsibility there?

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So, whether you eat or drink (or garden or climb mountains) do all things to the glory of God!



Don't you see the contradiction in what you are saying? Open your eyes before it is too late. Jesus IS coming ANY day.

regards,
white stone


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Janice

 2009/1/28 0:15Profile
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Perhaps you could explain to me how jumping out of a plane feeds your family. What will happen to them IF the chute fails? You gave up the luxury of that life style when you accepted the responsibility of family life. Would you really want to risk orphaning your children? Or, perhaps, saddling your wife with a cripple? Have you seriously considered these circumstances and said, 'Nah, never happen to me. I know what I'm doing?' I beg you to talk with God about your interest in 'risky' activities. I pray He will lead you into doing something constructive with your spare time. Just because you are rock climbing with members of your Church does not speak well of the Church, sounds more like a Social Club. Don't they teach responsibility there?



White_Stone,
It was not my intent to offend you (and I hope I have not) and it is not presently my intent to do so further, so I pray that we can continue fellowshipping on the aspects of the Lord that we agree on. I would like to say a few things in response though.

By your line of reasoning, we as Christians should only participate in activities that directly supply provision for our families or are "ministry" related. That would mean that the follow activities should be discouraged: taking time to paint a picture (unless you are good enough to sell it and provide for your family), planting and maintaining a flower garden (seeing as how this does not provide edible food for the family), going fly-fishing for sport of it and not harming or keeping the fish to eat, playing a musical instrument as a hobby (unless its on a worship team), playing any sport for the sake of recreation, et cetera.

As for rock-climbing with members of my church, I do this because the men at my church are my friends. This isn't some kind of church sponsored out-reach program that we've devised, it's called fellowship and we are all greatly edified by it. Yes, we spend time fellowshipping in prayer and on our faces before God as well, but we also spend time "hanging-out" together and glorying in Him as we do it.

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Just because you are rock climbing with members of your Church does not speak well of the Church, sounds more like a Social Club. Don't they teach responsibility there?



Wow, try not to be so critical and judgmental, you really have no idea of the kind of church I attend or the intentions of our hearts. Yes, we do teach responsiblity at our church, but we not in a manner that would tell our members that they shouldn't go hiking in the woods, or floating down a river, or even skydiving.

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Perhaps you could explain to me how jumping out of a plane feeds your family. What will happen to them IF the chute fails?



I didn't jump out of a plane intending to feed my family, I work hard at my job to see that they are fed. Statistically it is much more dangerous for me to get in my car and drive through Atlanta or any other big city on a daily basis than it is for me to take part in some of these "risky" hobbies. Yet, am I putting the Lord to the test by driving in potentially dangerous traffic? No, because I'm wearing a seatbelt and have take precautions when driving. If I were to jump out of an airplane WITHOUT a parachute on (which is more along the lines that Satan tempted Jesus), only trusting that God would miraculously save me, then that would be putting God to the test. Is it putting God to the test to drive a Ford Escort instead of a Volvo, after all, the Volvo is much safer.

Sorry if I'm writing a lot, but it does kind of bother me that you so easily have been able to dismiss me and my church as being the types that don't seek God in the way we live our lives and conduct ourselves. Yes, I have sought, and continue to seek, the Lord in every aspect of my life (as best as I can), from the kind of foods I eat to the way I manage my business activities, to the way I spend my money, to the way I spend the 24 hours in each day. And believe it or not, I have not felt convicted or rebuked about some of my hobbies. Should the Lord "open my eyes" to the error of my ways, then I will gladly discontinue these activities. I have no t.v. in my house because the Lord convicted me of the amount of time it consumes and the trash that it can expose my family to. I left a much more profitable job a few years ago because of the demands it put on my time, family and ministry. Currently, my wife and I are working on selling our house and vehicles and preparing to go into the mission field next year because the Lord has led us in that direction. And yes, if He shows me that He is displeased with me for rock-climbing, I will no longer do it.

I hope I've not taken the issue too far, you seem to be a great believer and I don't want to cause strife between us, but I would ask that you try to understand that God can be okay with someone fly-fishing in a river, or climbing a rock (with harnesses, braking systems and ropes) or jumping out of a plane with a parachute (and back up parachute) on or spending hours on an oil painting.


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Buck Yates

 2009/1/28 8:57Profile
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