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What's with the French humor brothers? Sober up. Simply because the topic is science related dose not mean it is irrelevant and a joking matter. If you don't understand what the topic is in this forum, please don't post childish banter. Christians often resort to humor when they do not understand…

We should not be ignorant.


 2008/9/11 14:44Profile


Who says we're ignorant of what this about? How about we're just brothers enjoying each other's fellowship?

There is a place to be serious, and there is a place to be lighthearted. When it came to some who were concerned this marked the end of the world we were all fairly serious in our responses. But there's nothing wrong with inserted a little light heartedness into the conversation.

It happens often here. Mainly because some here tend to be too serious all the time and can't recognize that God is the creator of humor.


 2008/9/11 15:10

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What's with the French humor brothers?

Au contraire, this is American humor. ;-)

Were just bringing a little levity to the doomsday mood in the thread Fredrick. France is a truly beautiful country.

I apologize if people took any of this for more then silliness. I realize the general tone of the forum is sobriety, and I appreciate that.


Mike Compton

 2008/9/11 15:24Profile


Amen... American humor.

Beats British humor!! Remember Monty Python? I coulndt stand that!


 2008/9/11 15:34


Hi Friedrick...I too apologize for any perceived flipancy. In Britain that joke is usually related to the Italians(no offence to my Italian brothers)

Since you want a serious note, any one who thinks that man is going to bring this planet to an end, and that God is not in charge, does not really understand the Scriptures. I am actually looking forward to the end of the world, not because of the "doom," part, but because it is the culmination of God's work here on earth. That day is decided, it is cast in stone and all who truly know Him do not live in fear of the great and notable day of the Lord. We who are alive will join the Lord in that glorious triumphant procession in the sky with our brothers and sisters who are "asleep." Any fearful conjecture about the end of the world belongs to the world and not the priesthood of the believers..............Frank

 2008/9/11 15:44

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You know, the sad part about this is that because nobody understands the stuff they're going to be "Discovering" they can tell all the lies they want about it... sick. :)

Another thing is that it seems like this is just yet another thing to distract people from the Lord. Someone mentioned that it will take them decades to sort through the data... just some more years to divert their attention off the conviction of the Holy Spirit. More years to ignore Him...

I don't think anything will come of this really. I mean, to my simple mind, the worst thing that will happen is that they blow themselves up by all the energy being exerted... :-/

I'm glad "My Father planned it all" (As the song says) :)

God bless you all, let's not let this junk of the world's fancies and fascinations distract us from Jesus, and the lost souls around us...



 2008/9/11 20:50Profile

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A Little Town In Iowa

 Re: Super-Smasher Targets Massive Mystery

I feel that a great deal of the problem here lies in everyone's alarm, and most of the problem lies in ignorance. Most people out there know very little of physics, and what they do know comes from places like Star Wars, X-Files and Star Trek... very authoritative sources, eh? :-(

Firstly... a black hole is what? A gravity well.
Secondly... what is a gravity well? A collapsed, very concentrated mass that attracts other mass to it.
Thirdly... what defines its size and consequently its gravitational pull? Its initial mass, or what it was made from before.
So, given those bits of information from science class way back when, let's put this test to a test:
Firstly... what are they colliding? A pair of atomic particles, probably neutrons.
Secondly... how much mass do a pair of neutrons have? An almost indefinably small amount.
Thirdly... how much gravitational draw will a pair of neutrons have? Again, an almost indefinably small amount.

Another thing to consider is the fact that, should a black hole develop, there would be no way for it to "sink to the center of the earth" as I've heard some claim. Black holes are MATTER, and a universal law that's out there is that "matter cannot occupy the same space as other matter." It would have to force its way through billions of tons of rock and molten substrate, which have far more mass than any alleged two-neutron black hole. This short-lived trip would "fill up" its gravitational tummy and render it helpless and harmless.

Perhaps the greater concern would be that the atomic particles would be completely obliterated by the collision... you could then throw in Einstein's equation of E=MC^2 (mass/energy conversion.) That could possibly make a pretty big bang, and the French/Swiss border may end up with a new and very deep circular terrain feature, but other than that there really wouldn't be much chance of it destroying the entire globe.
Any physics buffs out there, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong! 8-)

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"Be not soon shaken in your minds as that the day of the Lord is at hand. For that day shall not come, except there first be a great falling away," as I believe the apostle said. Jesus said, "When ye shall see these things come to pass, lift up your head, for your redemption draweth nigh." Let's keep the LORD JESUS first, and let everything else find its place under His dominion!

Ryan G.

 2008/9/11 21:44Profile

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Here are some links to information about black holes on

VIDEO on Black Holes 3:17

VIDEO on Black Hole Blazar Jets :26

Article titled All about Black Holes

 2008/9/12 3:03Profile

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NewCov said,

This short-lived trip would "fill up" its gravitational tummy and render it helpless and harmless.

That's reassuring. :-)

This reminds me of the story about people who avoided journeying too far out to sea for fear of falling off the edge of the earth. Their concern was legitimate, given their limited information.

 2008/9/12 16:09Profile

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Does anyone know anything about polarity? It's been a long time since I was in a Chemistry class.

Awhile back, for reasons unknown to me, I was led to buy a wind up watch and a wind up alarm clock (it has been difficult to remember to wind them up so I have missed a few things) - anyway, yesterday I was thinking about this and the more I thought about it, the more I realized how many things run using positive/negative influences - things using batteries and electricity for example.

If I remember correctly, positive and negative charges transfer from one thing to another . . .

Is polarity what holds the earth at the correct axis?

 2008/9/12 16:30Profile

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