"Pilgrim and Sojourner." - 1 Peter 2:11
| THE HATRED OF GOD |
Leviticus 20:23 - "And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them."
Leviticus 26:30 - "And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you."
Deuteronomy 32:19 - "And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters."
Psalm 5:5 - "The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity."
Psalm 5:6 - "Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man."
Psalm 10:3 - "For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth."
Psalm 11:5 - "The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth."
Psalm 53:5 - "There were they in great fear, where no fear was: for God hath scattered the bones of him that encampeth against thee: thou hast put them to shame, because God hath despised them."
Psalm 73:20 - "As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image."
Psalm 78:59 - "When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel:"
Psalm 106:40 - "Therefore was the wrath of the LORD kindled against his people, insomuch that he abhorred his own inheritance."
Proverbs 6:16-19 - "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 22:14 - "The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein."
Lamentations 2:6 - "And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest."
Hosea 9:15 - "All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters."
Zechariah 11:8 - "Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me."
Malachi 1:3 - "And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness."
Romans 9:13 - "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated."
SI Moderator - Greg Gordon
| 2008/7/30 13:37||Profile|
| Re: THE HATRED OF GOD |
I remembered right after I got saved and started hungering for the word of God. The Lord became more real to me and I began to fear God more than ever.
I would hear preachers preach so much about Gods Love, and I couldnt find it in the bible like they were saying it. I started thinking that they were not telling the people what they need to hear. They werent telling them that God hates what they are doing, so it seemed impossible to me, that God could love them, while they were doing sinful things.
One thing I believe needs to be preached, concerning Gods love, is His pity and His delight.
I believe Gods love is that He pities the sinner because of His wrath being stored up against the ungodly, which if they never repent and except Gods Love (grace/mercy) toward them, they will experience His hatred.
I believe Gods love toward the repentant, which are experiencing his righteousness in Christ Jesus, is a delighted Love that continues to grow in their obedience toward Him.
| 2008/7/30 16:45||Profile|
What a shocking article. That is sure not an attribute of God you hear much of today as the article states. It is very sobering
| 2008/7/30 20:41||Profile|
| Re: THE HATRED OF GOD |
Oh if we could only hear this preached.
A book by Richard Owen Roberts, I think it is called Repentance, really opened my eyes. Over the years, Ive given two away, even my own loaned copy that had a list of the Bible verses making clear what God hates. The meaning of repentance is not understood. The work of God, in our hearts, in repentance, is not understood.
If God does not hate the sinner, then why, when the Blood cleanses his sin, does he need to die the death that Paul speaks of? Why is there such a deep change after that death? And many other true things you point out. You dont have to be a theologian to see that we dont get it today.
Even as a new believer, the first time I heard [b]God hates the sin but loves the sinner[/b], and every single time there after, I heard a lie in it. But often the ones who said it were leaders. And sometimes they said it after another believer was speaking the word of God in a way that I could see/hear there was little Divine Love or Grace (Truth in Love and Truth and Grace). The sentence was said in order to correct another brothers sin in the Spirit but it did not use the Word of God. Whatsmore, I knew myself as a sinner that found the Love of God. I could only keep silent but I could never say that sentence. The only thing I knew, and could not well articulate was that John 3:16 says the world, what He created and that had been terribly changed including man.
I think the well-meaning ones who say, God does not hate the sinner, do not want to offend the sinner. (You can write your own paragraph here.)
I think they are deluded into thinking that by saying, God hates the sin but loves the sinner the hearer will be drawn to God rather than eased about their sin. I know that believers are eased about their sin when they hear that.
They distort and weaken Grace. (You can write your own paragraph here.)
If you cannot say the Truth, at least dont say the lie.
I thank God, that when He showed me a specific sin, and cleansed me, and I called a brother to tell him, this brother said Oooooh! with great understanding of that horror. This brother grieved with me over my sin. And when I shared the forgiveness and my obedience, and all that God did, this one could rejoice with me. I look for Christians like this to share my growth in Christ with.
Contrast that response with the usual response of even leaders in the church, or a Bible study, when they hear conviction and of sin forgiven: Oh thats OK, we have all done that. This is a similar example of well-meaning, well-intentioned distortion of Truth. [b]I think it is crippling[/b]. I can see that they want to give comfort. But who wants to trade even a shred of the cleansing of God for the comfort of man. This is crippling. Weep with those who weep.
What a blessing when the Holy Spirit convicts us of sin. The way is open. We should point to it. We should go in. What does God think when we shut up that way? What did Jesus say about the relationship between loving God and forgiveness? Luke 7:47 Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much: but to whom little is forgiven, [the same] loveth little. No wonder our first love grows cold and is lost in these days. Little love, little love, little love!
OK, I can see this post has touched me. [b]It deeply touches our need for God to come in Revival to set things straight[/b]. Prayer for the conference last night touched on these things.
Instead of the single word sin or sinner, there should be a long, long paragraph that no one could finish reading with out becoming extremely sick. Maybe that is what happened in Jonathan Edwards meetings.
| 2008/7/30 21:06||Profile|
Praise God we read and consider these things here.
When God comes in Revival, what He hates and His Love is made clear to everyone. Lazer-light clear.
There is a multi-part video of Peckham that documents that if you haven't seen it. Go to www.youtube.com. In the search box (on youtube) type in: Peckham sermonindex
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