| Poster | Thread | tjservant
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Are we all annointed to preach the gospel? We are commanded to go into all the world and preach and teach and make disciples. Thats not the "world of the elect", as the some of the Calvinists here believe. It's the "whole world".
Good point. Do people from this world of the elect have special identifying marks so others know who to preach too or not waste their time on?
I have never personally come across a hyper-Calvinist who truly did not believe in doing evangelism. Sad
very sad.
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If we are commanded, are we not also then annointed to carry it out?
I look forward to the replies to this...
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|  2008/5/5 16:49 | Profile | hmmhmm
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| | Re: | | i once saw a documentary about a magician and a "trickster"(dont know what to call it). But he was a master at fooling people.
And he said before hand i have no faith in God what so ever, he was an unbeliever. But he would be playing a preacher in a church in england, there was a small congregation and he started talking to them and he askd questions and he was "prophetic" and he if i remember right prayed for them.
But what moved me to tears, was there was one man, so broken, he came forward in tears and asking God to forgive him. I thought about this, first i was upset how they could toy with men and woman like this, this man was very serious, i came to the conclusion God saw this mans heart even if to all other men it was a theater and a "tv-fun-show".
And also a man may be handing out tracts, and some man or woman may be saved by these tracts, reading the message on them, but the fellow handing them out may end up in hell.
And i believe if God has sent you he will anoint you, the problem is i think many went who where not sent. Not by God anyway.
another is we have had much imprinted in our minds how the anointing looks and sounds like. Jeremiah we would agree was anointed, and also Jesus, yet Jesus preached away several thousands of people, how many followed jeremiahs anointed message?
maybe it is the anointing manifestation we have a problem with and misunderstand?
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hmmhmm wrote:
another is we have had much imprinted in our minds how the anointing looks and sounds like. Jeremiah we would agree was anointed, and also Jesus, yet Jesus preached away several thousands of people, how many followed jeremiahs anointed message?
maybe it is the anointing manifestation we have a problem with and misunderstand?
I believe that is right. Many have a false definitions branded in their minds, as to exactly how to recognize the LOVE of God. The fullest expression of love is recognized by God through obedience of the gospel. God is LOVE. God is HOLY. God is JUST.
Acts 5:29
29 Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to[b] obey God rather than men.[/b]
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Acts 5:32
32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost,[b] whom God hath given to them that obey him.[/b]
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Rom 2:8-9
8[b] But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,[/b[
9[b] Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man[u] that doeth evil,[/u] of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;[/b]
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Acts 5:32
32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the[u] Holy Ghost[/u], whom God hath given to them[u] that obey him.[/u]
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Zech 6:15-7:1
15 And they that are far off shall come and build in the temple of the LORD, and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you. And this shall come to pass,[b] if[/b] ye [u]will diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God.[/u]
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Acts 2:39-42
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words[u] did he testify and exhort,[/u] saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41[u] Then they that gladly received his word[/u] were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
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John 14:15-16
15[b] If ye love me, keep my commandments.[/b]
16 [u]And I will pray the Father,[/u] and he shall give you[u] another Comforter,[/u] that he may abide with you[u] for ever;[/u]
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John 14:23-26
23 Jesus answered and said unto him,[u] If a man love me, he will keep my words[/u]: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26 But the Comforter, which is the[b] Holy Ghost[/b], whom the Father will send in my name, he shall[b] teach you all things,[/b] and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
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John 8:51
51 Verily, verily, I say unto you,[u] If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.[/u]
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There are many different theologies out there, on the process in receiving the Holy Spirit. The verses above should shed light on that. How many out there in the world are keeping his sayings, and/or remembering HIS sayings? The greatest deceivers out there in the world, are NOT those people who claim there is no God but those claim special anointings and have departed from the delivered doctrine, the gospel that is contained in the word of God. There are many! That is why our forefathers so dilgently sought to meet together and teach the word, in schools and everywhere, proclaim HIS name from the public square. Beware of anyone who teaches that this former practice is not ethical or Godly.
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| | 2008/5/6 7:44 | | roadsign
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I have never personally come across a hyper-Calvinist who truly did not believe in doing evangelism.
TJ, Im in the same boat as you. From my point of view, having grown up in a hyper Calvinist environment, Id agree with you. Of course, the point of this thread is not about what the preacher should or should not do, but the possibility of God using even a failing preacher.
God used some of those voices in my past nevertheless to teach me important truths. I learned also that you cant buy everything you hear from the pulpit. You have to develop critical judgment.
There is nothing like a bit of irritating sandpaper to spur you on. More than a few times frustration and anger motivated me to grab my bible and see what God had to say on the matter. I learned a lot that way. Praise God for the "irritants"!
Diane
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