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| Re: | | Ole, My heart goes out to you, and I will pray for you.
I don't know if this will help, but I would like to say it anyway.
Many times, when we keep things inside, it becomes bigger and bigger. So to talk about it and get it out is good.
Here is some things I would like you to consider.
1. Lay face down on the floor ( not that there is any magic in this), but lay yourself at the foot of the Cross....and REST.
2. We're to thank God ***in*** all of our Cirumstances. Now I didn't say **for* them...but *IN ** them. Put your mind on Christ, thanking HIM for all the wonderful things He has done. I honestly believe when we do worship and Praise God, those chains just fall off.
3. Paul said in Philippains...forget those things behind you, and press on...look forward...look up! ( when Joshua took teh children of Israel into the Promise Land...he said, don't look to the right or the left...but straight ahead...and most of all...don't look back. (( When Jesus had Peter to walk on water...he had his eyes on Jesus...but once he looked down...he fell in)). So...keep your mind and heart on Jesus Christ.
4. Some of the greatest prayers are those of David's in the Psalms. One that was so outstanding while David was going through a terrible time wanting God's revenge...God rebuked him, and said....maybe they do prosper, but look at their end...and look at yours. Anchor your heart there.
5. Remember God will try our hearts so we can prove HIS faithfulness.
6. Find someone you can minister to. Maybe an older couple in your neighborhood, or a friendless person. I believe many times the Lord allows these things to bring out a compassion towards others we may never have had before. Now you know what it feels like to be on the end of judgementalim, graceless mercyless expression.
7. Remember that He who is in you is stronger then he who is in the world. May your journey throught the valley of the shadow of death bring you victorious to that amazing Mountain called Mt SION.....Mt. GRACE. Only the Lord can bring you there. Read Psalms 23, but more then that know that this is where He leads...and this is who we follow, and this is what HE PROMISED.
God Bless Katy |
| 2008/4/5 13:37 | | Ole Member

Joined: 2004/4/9 Posts: 45
| Re: | | Hi Katy
good words
God bless
Ole |
| 2008/4/5 13:42 | Profile | Lowly Member

Joined: 2007/10/13 Posts: 41
| Re: | | Ole, I pray you are seeing the love of God being poured out to you from your brothers and sisters in Christ. They see your affliction, and they are full of the compassion of our Savior reaching out to you with a hand as Peter did to the one sitting at the gate Beautiful. Seeing the man could not help himself, seeing he was laying outside the house of the Lord, Peter looked at him and said "Look on us", and the man listened, "expecting to receive something from them."....................Peter said, such as I have I give you!
In the name, the all powerful name of Jesus of Nazereth who has been given all power and authority in heaven and on earth, rise up and walk. ...................Peter knew the power of that name, because he was raised up in that very power. He was in the despair you are now in, and he knew the breath of life that loosed him from that hopelessness.
That pastor has no hold on you. His prayers do not have any power to attack you. You are the Lord's inheritance. What He says about you is true. He rules and reigns in your heart and life, and greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world. You have been ransomed and redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
You mentioned your beautiful coat of many colors that you may feel now has been stripped from you, as the envy and hatred of Joseph's brothers stripped him of his. The favor of your Father was not attached to the coat, that was just a symbol. No one can take that away from you. Now their cruel act threw Joseph into a time of suffering and imprisonment..................but the favor and love of God was always with him.............no one can take that away from you. ...................
The Lord delivered him.
We are praying for you Ole......Everyone has blessed me here that has reached out to you......all have given you something of what they have................A testimony of Jesus.
I pray that the love of Jesus would minister to you today from the love of your brothers and sisters who desire to rescue you and see you completely healed and set free.
In His Amazing Love, Lowly ------------------------------------------- Learn of Me, for I am meek and lowly of heart...........
Thank you Dorcas, Psalm 1, Crsssk, Compliments......Good word Katy! |
| 2008/4/5 14:03 | Profile | Ole Member

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| | 2008/4/5 14:35 | Profile | psalm1 Member

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| Re: | | Ole,
remember it is a faith walk.He is and always will be the "in spite of God" His word is true in spite of whatever comes against you,or whoever comes against you. No matter what,you ARE victorious because Jesus is victorious. He never has and never will loose a battle. So you win , no matter what ,you win.
Preach to yourself and encourage yourself.
If you have several bibles,place them on the counters and tables around your home.Leave them open and "peek" at Gods word when you pass by them. Turn off secular tv and radio and play worship music in your home. Get radical in your walk and study the blood of Jesus.
Your walk with Jesus moment by moment is your testimony.
Speak your testimony. Say"and he devoted himself to the reading of the word and worship"
No worries mate!
David |
| 2008/4/5 15:59 | Profile |
| Re: | | Regarding the "Pastors Grip".
When you've been under a ministry to where you've entrusted your life not only to the LORDship of Jesus Christ but also to those that appear stronger than yourself, your going to find yourself trusting the man instead of trusting the LORD.
I know this to be true because I was attending such a church whom the Pastor had such a control over the congregation. It came to the place where people were looking to him about everything. I remember one woman in that church wanted to sell her washing machine. She was so locked into this man that she called him to find out if it's ok to sell the machine. When any of them tried to leave it was like a death sentence and you were cut off immediately from fellowship with the Church.
Your mental illness may be linked with this Church. That same lady who had asked about her washing machine, also was having a nervous breakdown. After the Pastor passed away, she ended up in the psychiatric ward of the hospital.
Now, there is no formula's, no 12 steps to recovery, it's simply faith and trusting in the LORD for your recovery. Everyone of us has some sort of mental illness. We don't think of forgetting as a mental illness, but it's a problem that we all have. But healing and recovery is possible because I have been through much depressions and sat alone with my own mind wondered if I was crazy or not.
Your probably feeling condemned by the enemy, and if that is true, resist the very thought because your in Christ Jesus and your a new creation and there is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. Thats important to know because it's one of the things of our faith that we must contend, which the enemy is constantly wanting us to fall so he can do his job and condemn. But thank God for the grace of God. Amen
2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen. |
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| Re: | | https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=22307&forum=35&start=30&34
Here is a great link on SI about Spiritual Abuse.
Good words Compliments!
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When you've been under a ministry to where you've entrusted your life not only to the LORDship of Jesus Christ but also to those that appear stronger than yourself, your going to find yourself trusting the man instead of trusting the LORD.
I so love Paul's words in Ephesians 3... He prayed that WE would be strengthened by might in the inner man!
One of the Apostles taught that Shepherds were NOT to lord it over the flock...but to be examples.
We want to only think of cults as those who have a theological difference on the Trinity or such...but a cult is any group who wants to keep you in bondage to them...and cult behavior is following a man...any man....and not Our Father through Jesus Christ in the power of the Holy Spirit.
Katy
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| Re: How to get free of pastors grip | | psalm1 suggested
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Preach to yourself and encourage yourself.
This is great advice. It is a mixture of persuading yourself what you know is true, and mixing the word (from the Bible) with faith, as you speak it out loud to yourself so your ears can hear it. It is a very profitable exercise, and you should still get a different sermon every time... ;-)
One only need look at Spurgeon's work to know it is a profitable way for a depressed man to reach out to his God, to assure us that this method [i]works.[/i]
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| 2008/4/5 19:50 | | crsschk Member

Joined: 2003/6/11 Posts: 9192 Santa Clara, CA
| Re: How to get free of pastors grip | | Ole,
Originally, you brought this forth;
[i]I have been mentally ill for 7 years now, after rebuking, kindly though the pastor, saying that they did something that might destroy people,he started taking a hard grip on me, so I had to leave.
since then they prayed against me, they believe they are in their right to do it, that is scarry, they are not servants at all.
I experiecned one night that all hell broke loose, God told me who and why, I cried out to God for an hour, but was destroyed in prayerlife for 2 days, it has gone down down ever since mentally.
I still believe he prayes against me, it is like being in prison, can some one please help me, tell me how I can get out, I want to live in what God has to me, did it before, had a mantel of many colors (joseph), I also believe that was the reason they wanted me out.[/i]
And you also mentioned;
Need to ask you if you are still harboring any bitterness or resentment and just as importantly if you have considered that you may have been at fault here.
The trouble with this is that you have not given any details nor what the matter was that you were rebuking. Was it your place to do so brother? It is just as difficult and unfair that we should take your word for something and automatically run to your aid, we have no idea what the pastor was either doing or what his side of the story may be. (Note to the saints offering advice here.)
It could well mean that you go to him and ask forgiveness. What may come of it is impossible to know but it may set you free from this unwise burden you are carrying.
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I want to live in what God has to me, did it before, had a mantel of many colors (joseph), I also believe that was the reason they wanted me out.
You might want to go back and read that whole account again brother. Remember how it ends.
You [i]believe he still prays against you[/i] but do you know this for a fact? And how might you know, this far removed that he has not had a change of heart or is indeed praying for your development, your well being, to becoming more Christlike? Do you see brother? This may not always be the best way to draw advice, in a public setting. It may give you food for thought and pray that you take it as that. But without a fuller understanding of the particulars we may be offering you antidotes that are not wise nor helpful to what you might need to do to rectify this.
_________________ Mike Balog
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