Back to Cancer vs demons for a moment. What are the Causes and Risk Factors for some types of Cancer?TobaccoAccording to the National Cancer Institute, smoking causes 30% of all cancer deaths in the U.S. and is responsible for 87% of cases of lung cancer. Not only does it affect the lungs, it can cause kidney, pancreatic, cervical, and stomach cancers and acute myeloid leukemia. Quitting smoking immediately decreases your risk factor for cancer.Obesity is a major cause for many cancers. Genetics can play a big role in cancer development. If you have a family history of cancer, such as breast cancer, taking extra precautions is vital. When cancer is genetic, a mutated gene has been passed down. Genetic tests are available for many hereditary cancers. Keep in mind that if you have a family history of cancer, it does not mean you will develop it. You only have a greater chance of developing it.Environmental FactorsThe environment you are in can cause cancer.Exposure to asbestos, a group of minerals found in housing and industrial building materials can cause a variety of medical problems, such as mesothelioma.Studies have shown that people who are exposed to high amount of benzene are at risk for cancer. Benzene is a chemical found in gasoline, smoking, and pollution.Sun ExposureSkin cancer is caused by exposure to the UV rays of the sun. A sunburn, or a tan is actually the result of cell damage caused by the sun. Skin cancer can be prevented in most cases. Wearing sunscreen when outdoors and staying out of the sun between the hours of 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., when the sun's rays are strongest is your best defense.Katy
ccchhhrrriiisss wrote:This is why medicine is so successful in treatment of schizophrenia (or should we assume that demons are bound by medicine?).
Answer: We know from Scripture that the demons in Saul were calmed (or could be say "bound"), by the music that David played so it is quite possible that medicine can indeed calm the effects of demons.
Incident or precedent? Have been thinking about this for a long time now. How it applies in scripture. How one or the other can be taken and misconstrued depending on a particular premise or assumption.How would these two apply in a discussion like this, towards healing or lack thereof, towards demons or effects of sin. What does scripture truly set forth, incident or precedent? Surely both, but are they being interchanged dishonestly?As seemingly off subject as this might appear, there is a great deal of discernment that could apply here;[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flat&order=0&topic_id=22780&forum=36&post_id=&refresh=Go]THE SECRET OF TRANQUILLITY[/url]
_________________Mike Balog
Isaiah64 wrote:I'm wondering what the Christian perspective is on all this. Is something like schizophrenia always caused by demons, or is it also a legitimate medical problem?
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Authority Over Demons - Corrie ten Boom
Over time, I have been in India a few times, serving in evangelism of that vast and dark country. It's kind of like a free for all for the Devil; the result being much more manifestations of real possessions than I imagined possible. I went usually uninsulated; among the poor; into the crowds, hands on prayer for every sickness and problem; I still do, and also in America. The greatest sorrow that I encountered was not being able to heal or deliver the helpless poor. I've had ancient Demon spirits peer through the eyes of a 3 year old before, with no apparent deliverance, while crowds watched, and horrible, disfiguring and painful diseases go unchecked by God's power. It's very humbling. I have witnessed the miraculous, on occasion, though, and have seen God act. I still, today, suffer in a like manner. You are right though, We need
"genuine Spirit Birthed Discernment", but Oh, so much much more. We need Apostolic power to accompany our discernment. Jesus is the healer, not man. I am under no condemnation. There were many beggars and blind when Peter healed the lame man, yet, only one healed., and Jesus ' testimony in Nazareth,"he could do no mighty works there because of their unbelief" Let us feel the tragedy of a mother watching her son deteriorate into a flapping fly, having escaped all reality, drifting in and out of violent voices bidding her harm. Is this demonic? yes. Is it a physical condition? Could be. Maybe both, but even if I nailed the discernment, and didn't heal, she would yet weep. I don't want to come off glib. We need Jesus, and the Graces of life to help. I want to end, by saying that Jesus never loses. He always wins. He rules forever. Many, many believers can bring testimony of catatonic and suicidal folk that Jesus touched and became whole. As far as drugs go, I see them as spiritual sedatives, kind of knocking you out of the spiritual effects of consciousness. What do you say to a mother whose only choice for survival for her child is to take these psycho-tropic sledge hammers?? Until the Lord comes. Until the Lord comes, and He will. I trust we will see a glorious Apostolic revival come before the end of this age, with all of the glory of Jesus involved, tearing down the mountains of opposition, and lifting up the valleys of oppression. In the mean time we don't quit doing the Word, and standing in faith, whether we see the promises fulfilled, or not. I love the great John Wimber's [deceased] teaching on healing. He called it "doin' the stuff."; basically, continuing in faith in the face of death and disease, asking God to perform his Word.[John was used for a few years in the most amazing ways in the miraculous and healings, including many insane and mentally afflicted people] Continue on the meds. until healing is manifest, you haven't sinned, and you will know when it's real....Brother Tom.Isaiah64 wrote:I'm wondering what the Christian perspective is on all this. Is something like schizophrenia always caused by demons, or is it also a legitimate medical problem?
And what do you guys/girls think about panic attacks? I suffer them myself once in a while and I'm curious how you think about this. On the area of emotions, brains and demonic. Anyone want to react? Shalom
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Hi DirkWCarter Conlon, one of the featured speakers here suffered from horrendeous panic attacts and got delivered. I do not know which sermon it was, I was his personal testimony.I do not want to give a glib answer, but this I know. Sickness may for some reason not be healed, but when it comes to fear, I believe there are enough bible promises that Gods wants to deliver us from fear in ANY case. Go to biblegateway.com and search for fear.narrowapath
DirkW,I used to suffer from panic attacks. I also had some major trials in my life about 2-3 years ago which left me emotionally broken- this led to a downward spiral into fear, depression and a panic attack that lasted for days. I would really call it a nervous breakdown, but I also call it the longest panic attck ever becuase my adrenelin was up so high for so many days that I couldn't sleep.It's been almost 2 years since that last panic attack/ nervous breakdown- and I have never had another one and I doubt I ever will.I am on no medication and didn't use any except for the first couple of days becaue I was desperate to find something that might help me. But I hated any medication and knew the Lord could help me.I don't believe I had a demon at all- though i am sure the enemy took full advantage of my situation. What I learned was that i was my own worst enemy when it came to fear and panic and depression. It was my thoughts, - I had to learn to take them captive. I had to learn to renew my mind- stop believing lies and replace them with the truth.I can honestly say that God has delivered me from panic attacks, from depression and an emotional breakdown. But it was a process. One where I had to learn the tools to use and how to renew my own mind according to scripture. For anyone who has problems with fear, panic or depression - it doesn't mean you necessarily have a demon. I didn't and today I am fine. If for any reason I 'feel' like I am starting to get depressed or 'feel' weird from fear (which is almost never anymore) I know exactly how to take my thoughts captive and what to do.Martyn Lloyd Jones has an excellent book called SPIRITUAL DEPRESSION. It has helped me alot too.What we need to realize also is that we cannot go by 'feelings' by what we feel. That is not always the truth. People who have panic or anxiety are usually very sensative and are prone to 'feel' everything. If we have the littlest pain in our chest- we think we are having a heart attack- if we feel a little off balance for a second- we think we are going to faint and pass out- and of course that means we have some major disease....ect...... We always think the worst-- but just know that this is a HABIT that we can change. Wrong thinking is a HABIT. And just like any other habit- to break it successfully we need to replace it.Most people who experience anxiety/panic are similar personality types. Sensative, perfectionist, set unbelievable high standards for self, deep thinkers, analytical (all that analyzing and deep thinking can get you in a world of trouble when it comes to anxiety).DIRKW, if you would like more information as to how I got totally free from Panic/anxiety- message me and I'll give you some mroe details.Anyone can be free and it doesn't take meds or demon deliverance. So thankful for Christ, Chanin
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