Katy-did

I think we also need to be equally careful of his critics. Their agenda may be that of the Pharisees, hating any manifestation of God's power.

Psalm 1 and Heartsong (who posted the report of Ami not just surviving but miraculously surviving the bomb blast in Israel), I thank you for your posts. Psalm 1 the excerpts from books on Wigglesworth have given me pause to seek the Lord for greater hunger and thirst for Him and His Word and righteousness and Holy Spirit discernment. Make us holy God; make us want to be holy. God grant us these and please give us real and deep love and compassion for others.

I love this bit about jesus still heals;

.........."Bible reading, Matt. 8:1-17.

Here we have a wonderful word. All the Word is wonderful. This blessed Book brings such life and health and peace, and such an abundance that we should never be poor any more. This Book is my heavenly bank. I find everything I want in it. I want to show you how rich you may be, that in everything you can be enriched in Christ Jesus. He has abundance of grace for you and the gift of righteousness, and through His abundant grace all things are possible. I want to show you that you can be a living branch of the living Vine, Christ Jesus, and that it is your privilege to be right here in this world what He is. John tells us, "As He is, so are we in this world." Not that we are anything in ourselves, but Christ within us is our all in all.

The Lord Jesus is always wanting to show forth Ills grace and love in order to draw us to Himself. God is willing to do things, to manifest His Word, and let us know in measure the mind of our God in this day and hour. There are many needy ones, many afflicted ones, but I do not think any present are half as bad as this first case that we read of in Matthew 8. This man was a leper. You may be suffering with consumption or cancers or other things, but God will show forth His perfect cleansing, His perfect healing, if you have a living faith in Christ. He is a wonderful Jesus.

This leper must have been told about Jesus. How much is missed because people are not constantly telling what Jesus will do in this our day. Probably someone had come to that leper and said, "Jesus can heal you." And so he was filled with expectation as he saw the Lord coming down the mountain side. Lepers were not allowed to come within reach of people, they were shut out as unclean. And so in the ordinary way it would have been very difficult for him to get near because of the crowd that surrounded Jesus. But as He came down from the mount He met this poor leper. Oh, this terrible disease! There was no help for him humanly speaking, but nothing is too hard for Jesus. The man cried, "Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean." Was Jesus willing? You will never find Jesus missing an opportunity of doing good. You will find that He is always more willing to work than we are to give Him an opportunity to work. The trouble is we do not come to Him, we do not ask Him for what He is more than willing to give.


Thats good news!!!!!!


David

KATY-DID

Have u ever read extensively the material of Wigglesworth?

If not, then I would simply suggest such reading if your really interested.

This man wasn't just some man, that I believe Jesus will cast away

Also, He broke for the lost, not just miracles....

His gifts that Jesus gave him worked by his extreme love and affection for lost people...

Blessings KAty, but I think you would get a much better picture of the man and ministry of Wigglesworth..

I said this in another post, the scriptures can be so correct but yet they can become our snare..
the letter killeth, but the spirit maketh alive.

I understand you and everyone elses zeal for the written word, but the living word will manifest itself upon our hearts..

Passing Thru, I understand what you are saying.

I would like to say something here. There are two schools of thought. One, Miracles were to bring the Gospel, and the ultimate miracle is being Born Again.

But I wonder if some don't have it the other way around. The only reason I think this is because when Paul preached at Mars Hill, no miracles or signs and wonders were preformed.

The signs and wonders were a sign to the Jews, spoken of in the OT, that would show Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

The Greeks looked after wisdom, and needed no signs.

Now if Signs and wonders were to qualify the Gospel, and that Jesus was/is the Son of God, bringing people to Christ for salvation....then is signs and miracles for the saved?

I see no where in Acts where Paul or the Apostles preformed these signs and miracles to the all ready saved.

One can preach the Gospel today, in many ways, through tracks, revivals etc, and many are saved, who don't need to have any signs or wonders preformed in order for one to believe.

Faith comes by hearing the Word of God.

I'm reminded of John 6 where miracles were preformed ...the bread,the fish, and yet even after that, didn't they walk away after Jesus said...to eat my flesh and drink my blood is true salvation. They said...oh this is a hard saying, and walked away.

They wanted the miracles, but not Jesus Christ.

The greatest miracle of all is that one is a New Creation In Christ.

Katy

Ulsterman, I have no doubts at all that miracles followed Paul, or doubt in any way the incident in Acts 20.

Maybe you misunderstood something here.

We know in James it says to call for the elders of the Church to pray over the sick that they may be healed.

But we also know too that Paul's ministry was to preach the Gospel to teh lost that they might be saved.

Paul didn't go around looking for demons to cast out, or people to raise from the dead. When the occasion arose, God's Power worked through Paul, I'm sure long before Paul even thought of it himself.

It was those occasions , appointed by God, that miracles and healings and the such manifested. Paul did not set up healing, miracle meetings for all to gather around and see what he could do.

God is not at **our** beckon call to be commanded to do this or that at OUR appointed time. We must always be at HIS beckon call, when HE and HE alone manifests His power and Glory through our earthly vessels.

To God be the Glory for all the things HE has done.

Katy

there are those that believe Miracles and healing still happen and those that dont.
To me it is impossible to get gloriously and radically saved and then go back to being a heathen.......and yet this happens.

Just the same it is impossible to see miracles up close and be used of God to lay hands on the sick and even raise the dead and then , some time later say "aw thats just huey"
Both to be saved and to see sick people healed will change you for life.....Never the same!!!

This is an example of unbelief ;

.........."I was called at 10 o'clock one night to pray for a young person given up by the doctor who was dying of consumption. As I looked, I saw that unless God undertook it was impossible for her to live. I turned to the mother and said, "Well, mother. you will have to go to bed." She said, "Oh, I have not had my clothes off for three weeks." I said to the daughters, "You will have to go to bed," but they did not want to go. It was the same with the son. I put on my overcoat and said, "Good-bye, I'm off." They said, "Oh, don't leave us." I said, "I can do nothing here." They said, "Oh, if you will stop, we will all go to bed." I knew that God would move nothing in an atmosphere of mere natural sympathy and unbelief.

They all went to bed and I stayed, and that was surely a time as I knelt by that bed face to face with death and with the devil. But God can change the hardest situation and make you know that He is almighty.

Then the fight came. It seemed as though the heavens were brass. I prayed from 11 to 3:30 in the morning. I saw the glimmering light on the face of the sufferer and saw her pass away. The devil said, "Now you are done for. You have come from Bradford and the girl has died on your hands." I said, "It can't be. God did not send me here for nothing. This is a time to change strength." I remembered that passage which said, "Men ought always to pray and not to faint." Death had taken place but I knew that my God was all powerful, and He that had split the Red Sea is just the same today. It was a time when I would not have "No," and God said "Yes." I looked at the window and at that moment the face of Jesus appeared. It seemed as though a million rays of light were coming from His face. As He looked at the one who had just passed away, the color came back to the face. She rolled over and fell asleep. Then I had a glorious time. In the morning she woke early, put on a dressing gown and walked to the piano. She started to play and to sing a wonderful song. The mother and the sister and the brother had all come down to listen. The Lord had undertaken. A miracle had been wrought.



.............And what happens in an atmosphere of faith!!!!


David

In response to Katydid's comment earlier: I see no where....to the already saved.

We see clearly in Acts 9:36-42 where a disciple of Christ..one Tabitha translated Dorcas was sick and died..Peter came and prayed with unwavering faith in the Living Lord Jesus and lifted her up to live again..Glory to God!! The Almighty God moved among the already believing disciples and the result was that good news traveling fast throughout Joppa brought many more into the fold! Hallelujah!!That God has given us record of the way He will move through His believers if only we will believe! May His perfect will be done through the lives of His humble and surrendered disciples today..for His glory as He deems appropriate and needed.We serve a mighty God!
Jesus Christ!The same yesterday,today and forever!

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G.M. (Destiny) Sweet

Acts 9:42And it was known throughout all Joppa; and many believed in the Lord.

Praise God!



Hebrews 2
1Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.

2For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;


[u]3How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will[/u]

I believe the object here is for the purpose of salvation!!

Katy