Hello all people,

I know many persons with whom I disagree on
many things but I seek not to argue with them
because in the meanwhile I could enjoy sweet
fellowship in the Shadow of the Most High
and let him live his life in me.
Please brothers and sisters, let us all
step back and be honest before God.
Let him clothe us with humility and lets
end the discussions that are going round
and round and round only to end us up in
offense and a nagging conscience (hopefully).

Why try to hopelessly prove my point in an internet forum while souls are fading away?

The Lord has been very patient with all of us, let us always remember that.

We ALL have been purchased with the
precious blood of Jesus. Our true
brothers and sisters
(and I believe that the posters
in this thread are all
true brothers and sisters) are NOT the enemy!

EDIT: PaulWest, I think you are doing a good job in this thread as a responsible person for this forum.


Daniel

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Daniel Sahm

A few pages ago MrBillPro said:

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Diane

Please excuse me here; I haven't participated in this thread...

But I become troubled when I see this kind of thing taking place in the family of God.

Something has degenerated here.

Is there not a call for some discernment here in this thread?

Who is it, actually, who is passing us the fiery arrows, which we then shoot at our brother out of our own bow?

"...For we are not ignorant of his devices."

"And the servant of the Lord must not strive, but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, in meekness instrucing those that oppose themselves, if God peradventure will give them repentance unto the acknowledging of the truth, and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the Devil, who are taken captive by him at his will" (2 Tim. 2.26).

AD

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Allan Halton

“Surely you desire truth in the inner parts;
you teach me wisdom in the inmost place.” Ps. 51;6

Oh Diane, how your last post brought to mind Ephesians 3


Ephesians 3
1For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

2If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

3How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

7Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

8Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;

9And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

10To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

12In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

13Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.

14For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

15Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

16That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

17That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

18May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

19And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

20Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

21Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

Katy

[b]"[u]GOD[/u]"[/b] -ordained leadership and counsel ?


With all due respect Diane - but this has nothing to do with "forgiveness" at this time - but a veil that's been pulled back - but no one has been able to get it out here or get the attention to WHO needs it from us the Most - JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF.
And one reason is - is because Forums are ADDICTIVE 'TO SOME' ('THAT' is where "souls are fading away" Brother) and they are afraid of backlash or the excessive banning and the other reason is some are young - which to me is under 50 - and for another - they are banned before they can finish spitting it out. Many joined here already wounded only to be finished off here.

It is time to expose the wizard of oz - because enough have been USED AND ABUSED. ENOUGH !!!

AND MOST ESPECIALLY, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN 'USED', ARE THOSE WHO ARE NOW IN HEAVEN AND CANNOT PROTECT THEIR WORKS OR SIT HERE AND WATCH FIVE YEARS WORTH OF MISTREATMENT.

Pardon me Diane - but I'm about to use the word "you" quite excessively now.

And we DON'T NEED a "LEAD EWE" - [b]WE NEED THE CHIEF SHEPHERD HERE.[/b]

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ChrisJD - what did you do to the "Desiring the Gifts on the Spirit" thread and elsewhere ?

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Mike Balog - to not publically say to you what is being held inside by not a few, would be a very great "disservice" {to use your own phrase} to all those who I've come to know here or have seen here (past tense) and on other Websites and even in the Churches or to THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF.

You cannot and have not even begun to follow the Article that Diane posted - nonetheless, have dealt fairly with countless members here since I've have viewed this forum - going back to 2003.

When I joined - all the threads from the beginning were still here and I read them all.
I downloaded some that really showed how things were. SOME of the posts are mysteriously gone now or edited and I need not say who's. We just watch the locked Moderators forum to know when the next head will fly for years now.

Not only can you Not follow how GOD's WORD directs "leaders" to treat people, but you cannot even follow this simple piece that Diane posted - nor will you ever - because there IS a tyrannical spirit here and always has been.

[b]There has always been an extremely strict - overbearing ruling on "proper behavior" - which is very narrowly defined for 'most' of us - but HERETICS that deny the Deity of Christ, and the such, can come here and not only be nasty to you and to us - but are encouraged to stay - while the rest of us must post with fear and trembling - even if all we are asking for is more emphasis on JESUS AND HIS WORD.

You in leadership here have Never considered members ages - yet you posted on respecting elders just the other day.

Everything you have posted is pure hype and things that you should have looked in the mirror first, before you posted. Everything I've read that you've posted 'just' since March 12th - this month - has been nothing but the "cover-up".

Yes, being disabled gives one an advantage to notice the same pattern over and over and over for almost 5 years now.

You are ever writing EXTRA LONG posts to make up for your obvious LACK OF CHRIST - and THAT I TRIED TO WARN YOU ABOUT LAST OCTOBER. AND NOT FOR ME, BECAUSE I DON'T[u] NEED[/u] A FORUM --- WHEREAS WITHOUT THIS FORUM - YOU HAVE NOTHING.[/b]


I'd rather have a slightly "not so polite" Doctrinally Correct person on my website than nasty warlords or polite heretics or pandering PC people.

YOU are why so many don't post here anymore [u]and the few posters who have made of themselves your personal bouncers.[/u]

It is and has been YOU and up until 3 years ago - since certain posts were deleted - YOU WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE BEING NASTY TO POSTERS.

Plain English with no big words - so that ALL can understand me.

A good Pastor makes for a good Church and the opposite holds true also for those who abuse their "authority" !!!

CHRIST JESUS IS NOT THE FOUNDATION OF THIS WEBSITE - IT IS BUILT AROUND THE EXALTATION OF A MAN. IF REVIVAL 'AS UNTO THE LORD' HAD BEEN THE SOLE AIM AND NOT THE GLORIFICATION AND CRUELTY OF MAN HERE - THE BACKING WOULD BE THROUGH THE ROOF.

THIS SITE HAS BEEN TO THE GLORY OF A MAN - AND NOT FOR JESUS ONLY OR ALONE.

HOW DARE YOU JUDGE OR SPEAK TO ANYONE THE WAYS YOU HAVE, FOR GOING ON FIVE YEARS NOW ?

THIS is what needs to be exposed here and that day is coming - because HE WILL NOT SHARE HIS GLORY WITH ANOTHER AND WILL NOT ALLOW HIS SHEEP TO BE CONSISTANTLY BEATEN DOWN - NOR HIS DEPARTED PREACHERS USED TO PROMOTE YOUNG MEN WHO WON'T GO THROUGH THE HELL THAT THEY DID, TO GET THE SERMONS THEY DELIVERED FROM THEIR TRIED-HEARTS !

THE FARCE OF IT ALL - IS THAT THE "GREAT" MEN OF GOD WHO'S SERMONS WERE USED TO PROMOTE THIS SITE, ARE BEING USED HERE TO PROMOTE ONE MAN WHO'S SIGNED ON A "BOUNCER" TO DO HIS VERY DIRTY WORK OF BEATING UP ON SISTERS AND SENSITIVE MEN --- WHEREAS PRIOR TO LATE 2005 - HE'D BEAT THEM HIMSELF ALSO.


The Exodus started this past week with me over the Deity of Christ. You will destroy anyone here that shows you for what you [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=10214&forum=35&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0] LACK.[/url]


[size=x-small][b]Ezekiel 13:19 And will ye pollute Me {saith the LORD} among My people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread {or a "name" or "position"}, [i]to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live,[/i] by your [u]lying[/u] to my people that hear your [u]lies[/u]?"[/b]


Again - I asked you last May to ban me but STOP TREATING PEOPLE THIS WAY - BECAUSE WITHOUT PEOPLE - THERE WOULDN'T BE A WEBSITE.

"STOP THE SLANDER" WAS WHAT I POSTED [url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=18396&forum=45&start=50&viewmode=flat&order=0] BY OSWALD SMITH (here)[/url], WHEN I ASKED TO BE BANNED LAST YEAR - [u]FOR THAT REASON[/u] - BUT 'THAT' YOU DIDN'T CATCH - OBVIOUSLY - BUT CATCH IT NOW - THESE PEOPLE ARE [b]GOD'S[/b] SHEEP.

IF YOU WANT TO BAN ME - BAN ME - BUT LEAVE THESE OTHERS ALONE AND GO AFTER THOSE WHO DENY HIS DEITY AND DIE TO SELF YOURSELVES BY CEASING THIS ACCUSING OF ANYONE [i]ELSE[/i] OF "PRIDE", WHEN THIS WHOLE SITE HAS BEEN RUN BY THE PRIDE OF MEN.
I, just for one, have not seen the HUMILITY OF CHRIST FROM THE LEADERSHIP SINCE SEARCHING THESE "CORRECTING" POSTS SINCE 2003 ![/size]


The practice ---- BAN THEM AND THEN LIE ABOUT THEM TO COVER FOR YOURSELVES has gone on long enough.

It's [u]not[/u] unforgiveness in the least - but ENOUGH people have been hurt now - ENOUGH of [b]His Sheep[/b] have been scattered under a Pretense of "The Old Paths".

[b]The "Ancient Paths" is [url=http://artkatzministries.org/ask-for-the-ancient-paths/]Our God & Savior Himself ![/url]

Heavy Handed Leadership = Pompous not Pious - 'Self'-Serving, not Servants of Christ ![/b]

The paranoia you've always felt is not because the enemy is after a "righteous cause" but because of the treatment of His Sheep - His WORD - and use of The Classics, etc. for 'self'-promoting ends [u]and for NOT defending HIM here.[/u]


Had it been for Jesus and Jesus alone - you'd all have NO FEARS - nor reason to.

That 'will' come out in The End.

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=22307&forum=35&start=30&34


https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=21739&forum=35&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0



[b]You can rule by LOVE or by continuing this practice of trying to make people 'fear' you all.


Pro 29:25 "The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be Safe." ---- EVEN IF HE/SHE MUST STAND OR BE ALONE UNTIL HE COMES.[/b]

I am broken hearted.. beyond what words could describe!

There is nothing in God's word, or in "Polemic Theology" that permits such vitriolic language.

The bud was about to blossom.




Diane

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