Poster | Thread | murrcolr Member

Joined: 2007/4/25 Posts: 1839 Scotland, UK
| Re: | | My response sorry as its long.
Spiritual Abuse
Spiritual abuse is the misuse of a position of power, leadership, or influence to further the selfish interests of someone other than the individual who needs help. Sometimes abuse arises out of a doctrinal position. At other times it occurs because of legitimate personal needs of a leader that are being met by illegitimate means. Spiritually abusive religious systems are sometimes described as legalistic, mind controlling, religiously addictive, and authoritarian.
#1) Authoritarian The most distinctive characteristic of a spiritually abusive religious system, or leader, is the over-emphasis on authority. Because a group claims to have been established by God Himself the leaders in this system claim the right to command their followers.
This authority supposedly comes from the position they occupy. In Matthew 23:1-2 Jesus said the Scribes and Pharisees "sit in Moses' seat," a position of spiritual authority. Many names are used but in the abusive system this is a position of power, not moral authority. The assumption is that God operates among His people through a hierarchy, or "chain of command." In this abusive system unconditional submission is often called a "covering," or "umbrella of protection" which will provide some spiritual blessing to those who fully submit. Followers may be told that God will bless their submission even if the leadship is wrong. It is not their place to judge or correct the leadership - God will see to that.
#2) Image Conscious The abusive religious system is scrupulous to maintain an image of righteousness. The organization's history is often misrepresented in the effort to demonstrate the organization's special relationship to God. The mistaken judgements and character flaws of its leaders are denied or covered up in order to validate their authority. Impossibly high legalistic standards of thought and behavior may be imposed on the members. Their failure to live up to these standards is a constant reminder of the follower's inferiority to his leaders, and the necessity of submission to them. Abusive religion is, at heart, legalism.
Abusive religion is also paranoid. Because the truth about the abusive religious system would be quickly rejected if recognized, outsiders are shown only a positive image of the group. This is rationalized by assuming that the religion would not be understood by "worldly" people; therefore they have no right to know. This attitude leads to members being secretive about some doctrines and the inner policies and proceedures of the group. Leaders, especially, will keep secrets from their members. This secrecy is rooted in a basic distrust of others because the belief system is false and can not stand scrutiny
#3) Suppresses Criticism Because the religious system is not based on the truth [b]it cannot allow questions, dissent, or open discussions about issues. The person who dissents becomes the problem rather than the issue he raised.[/b] The truth about any issue is settled and handed down from the top of the hierarchy. Questioning anything is considered a challenge to authority. Thinking for oneself is suppressed by pointing out that it leads to doubts. This is portrayed as unbelief in God and His anointed leaders. Thus the follower controls his own thoughts by fear of doubting God.
#4) Perfectionistic A most natural assumption is that a person does not get something for nothing. Apart from the express declarations of salvation by grace through faith God has given in the scriptures, it would be natural to think that one must earn salvation, or at least work to keep it. Thus, in abusive religions all blessings come through performance of spiritual requirements. Failure is strongly condemned so there is only one alternative, perfection. So long as he thinks he is succeeding in his observation of the rules, the follower typically exhibits pride, elitism, and arrogance. However, when reality and failure eventually set in, the result is the person experiences spiritual burnout, or even shipwreck of his faith. Those who fail in their efforts are labeled as apostates, weak, or some other such term so that they can be discarded by the system
#5) Unbalanced Abusive religions must distinguish themselves from all other religions so they can claim to be distinctive and therefore special to God. This is usually done by majoring on minor issues such as head covering, carrying biblical law to extremes, or using strange methods of biblical interpretation. The imbalanced spiritual hobby-horse thus produced represents unique knowledge or practices which seem to validate the group's claim to special status with God.
EFFECTS OF SPIRITUAL ABUSE
Spiritual abuse has a devastating effect on people. A very high level of trust is often placed in spiritual leaders. It is, and ought to be, expected that the trust will be honored and guarded. [b]When such trust is violated the wound is very deep. [/b]Sometimes the wound is so deep that the wounded person cannot trust even a legitimate spiritual authority again. An similar situation exists with the victims of incest. [b]The emotional and psychological symptoms exhibited by victims of incest parallel those of spiritual abuse to a remarkable degree.[/] The main symptom is the inability to relate normally to people who represent the source of their emotional injury.
[b]Besides an unhealthy fear of, and disillusionment with, spiritual authorities, the spiritually abused person may find it difficult to trust even God. [/b]"How could (or why did) He let this happen to me?" Anger is also deeply felt. Anger itself is not always wrong - God Himself expresses anger at such spiritual abuse (see Biblical Response, Below). However, even legitimate anger, if not properly channeled and dealt with, can degenerate into bitterness and cynicism toward everything spiritual.
BIBLICAL RESPONSE
Examples of spiritual abuse are found throughout the Bible. God describes and condemns the "shepherds of Israel" who feed themselves rather than the flock, who do not heal those who are hurting, or seek to bring back those who were driven away but rather discard them, ruling with force and cruelty (Ezekiel 34:1-10). Jesus reacted with anger against the thievery of the money changers in the Temple as they misused God's people for selfish reasons (Matthew 21:12-13; Mark 11:15-18; Luke 19:45-47; John 2:13-16). He was angry at those more concerned with rules and regulations than with human suffering (Mark 3:1-5). In Matthew 23, Jesus describes the abusive spiritual leader in great detail. In John 9 the Pharisees "cast out" the man born blind simply because the truth he told about his healing exposed their own corruption. In Acts 7:51-56, Stephen called the Jewish leaders to account over their spiritual abuse. His testimony of Christ vindicated Jesus, whom they had abused, and condemned them. The legalistic Jews were so angry they stoned Stephen to death. In Galatians Paul addressed a performance based Christianity which leads to the abuse of legalism. There are many more such examples. As God in human flesh, [b]Jesus had legitimate spiritual authority. But He did not exercise it to gain power for Himself, or to abuse and control others with rules and regulations.[/b] He said, "Come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest" (Matt. 11:28). The Greek word for "heavy laden" is phortizo which means here "to overburden with ceremony (or spiritual anxiety)" (Strong's Concordance #5412). Jesus gave a balanced perspective on positional authority when he said, [b]"But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren" (Matthew 23:8).[/b] He gave another key to discernment when He taught, "He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory..." (John 7:18a).
Jesus was not "image conscious." He was willing to associate with wine drinkers, cheating tax collectors and even prostitutes. He accused the legalistic Pharisees of "teaching for doctrine the commandments of men" (Matthew 15:9) and likened their showy, hypocritical outward rightousness to "whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness" (Matthew 23:27).
Neither was He paranoid. His ministry was conspicuously open to the public. When He was on trial (John 18) He was asked about His teachings and His reply was, "Why askest thou me?" Jesus pointed out that He always taught in public, and never in secret, so why not ask His disciples. He had nothing to hide.
[b]Jesus did not fear to criticize the religious leaders or their faulty doctrines (e.g. Matthew 15:1-9; 23:1-39, etc.).[/b] And when confronted with criticism or with treacherous questions designed to discredit Him, His response was never to simply demand silence or only positive recognition from His accusers. Rather, He gave answers - scriptural and reasonable answers - to their objections (e.g. Luke 7:36-47; Matthew 19:3-9).
[b]Jesus upheld the high standard of the Law, yet He clearly placed the legitimate needs of people before any rules or regulations (Matthew 12:1-13; Mark 2:23-3:5).[/b] The scriptures make it clear that no one will cease to sin in this life (Ecclesiastes 7:20; 1 John 1:8). Jesus made it plain, however, that one can know in this life that one has eternal life (John 5:24; 6:37-40), a theme developed by Paul throughout his epistles, and by John (1 John 5:10-13).
The Pharisees, quintessential spiritually abusive leaders, were quite unbalanced in their perception of what mattered most to God. Jesus said they, "...pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, - judgment, mercy, and faith...." (Matthew 23:23).
_________________ Colin Murray
|
| 2008/2/20 4:43 | Profile | crsschk Member

Joined: 2003/6/11 Posts: 9192 Santa Clara, CA
| Re: Broad | | Hello brother,
Just wanted to make a couple of notes. This here that you posted, is it your own writing or someone else? If it is the latter please quote your source.
Also, wanted to say that I do stand somewhat corrected. There are aspects that may tie this back more than I knew, even if I found the title of this post a bit troubling, it seemed to infer much more than it could deliver. Came across something that actually may put both of us into the same considerations. It is a very fair treatment of Watchman Nee, it states some of your concerns and perhaps also mine own, which are that we don't paint everything with such a broad brush. There is even a couple of mentions in there about his own detaching from the exclusive Brethren. There is a great deal to take into consideration, the times that were upon them, the nature of the political surroundings, their culture and so forth.
[url=http://housechurch.org/miscellaneous/mccallum_nee.html]Watchman Nee and the House Church Movement in China[/url]
Do not want to go sliding past this issue and matter of Spiritual Authority or Spiritual Abuse in any manner. You are absolutely correct to address it and well understand your umbrage, it is my own as well. Manipulation is a diabolical thing, it makes my skin crawl and the insides heave. Because of the abuse of these matters it also makes it just as difficult to forward a right understanding as something of a backlash against just plain order sometimes where a rebellion in it's own right rises up in accusation of everything from legalism to 'thought control' and beyond.
Quote:
Jesus had legitimate spiritual authority
There are two messages that have been mentioned here over the years that I have found to be just the greatest understanding of what Spiritual Authority is. They are from Stephen Kaung and yes, he had his affiliations with Watchman Nee but he uses scripture adeptly to make sense of it all. The essence that comes ready to my recognition in recalling them is that this is ultimately the last thing anyone would want to be pinning after, in fact if one was it already disqualifies. I also recall that in the truest sense it is something that bypasses the man if I could put it that way, that it's authenticated on it's own merits, in other words, partially, it is the equivalent of our often saying that we have done nothing, said nothing, that it is the Holy Spirit speaking through us, along that order. I would go so far as to say that there are those here that 'have' a Spiritual Authority even unaware, but really what it boils down to is it's opposite; That Spiritual Authority has you rather than the other way around. Rough recollections, but very good messages.
Here is an older posting along with the accompanying links.
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6072&forum=35]What isn't "Speaking against God's annointed"[/url] _________________ Mike Balog
|
| 2008/2/20 9:23 | Profile |
| Re: | | I don't know Murrclr from Adam, 'met' him last week on here - but I appreciate what he posted also. And not towards Nee, in and of himself - I've made clear what good I gleaned from him - but what had/has happened to me in my lifelong desire to "please everyone" ..... this quote hit my heart like a sword .....
[b]"Besides an unhealthy fear of, and disillusionment with, spiritual authorities, the spiritually abused person may find it difficult to trust even God." [/b]
Thanks guys. |
| 2008/2/20 9:39 | |
| Re: | | Mike wrote:
Quote:
wanted to say that I do stand somewhat corrected. There are aspects that may tie this back more than I knew, even if I found the title of this post a bit troubling, it seemed to infer much more than it could deliver. Came across something that actually may put both of us into the same considerations. It is a very fair treatment of Watchman Nee, it states some of your concerns and perhaps also mine own, which are that we don't paint everything with such a broad brush. There is even a couple of mentions in there about his own detaching from the exclusive Brethren. There is a great deal to take into consideration, the times that were upon them, the nature of the political surroundings, their culture and so forth.
Watchman Nee and the House Church Movement in China
Thanks Mike, have read the first part of this article so far, and it does seem pretty balanced.
Maybe none of us fully realise just how much our own culture and background (religious or otherwise) contribute to our views as Christians.
Watchman Nee wasn't perfect. It would have been strange if he hadn't absorbed, and maybe carried over into his Christian life, some of the ancestor-reverence and strongly authoritarian culture from which he came.
Blessings
Jeannette |
| 2008/2/20 11:22 | |
| Re: | | Quote:
HE_Reigns wrote: I don't know Murrclr from Adam, 'met' him last week on here - but I appreciate what he posted also. And not towards Nee, in and of himself - I've made clear what good I gleaned from him - but what had/has happened to me in my lifelong desire to "please everyone" ..... this quote hit my heart like a sword .....
[b]"Besides an unhealthy fear of, and disillusionment with, spiritual authorities, the spiritually abused person may find it difficult to trust even God." [/b]
Thanks guys.
Our personal experiences have a huge effect on who we are, and can mar our relationship with the Lord.
Many for example project the characteristics of their own fathers onto God.
My father loved me, and wouldn't have dreamed of abusing, or even being unkind to me, (at least there's that to be thankful for, not too many can even say that). However, he was quite neurotic and an extreme perfectionist, and was for ever correcting me on the slightest details. And because I loved him and wanted to please him I was for ever striving not to disappoint him.
So I grew up with that sort of "driven" view of God. Yes, He loved me, but He demanded perfection, and wouldn't be really pleased or approve of me unless I became perfect.
It took nearly 40 years of being a Christian to begin to be free of the effect of this, and to [i]really[/i] believe and accept that the Lord loves me unconditionally.
And from the little I know of the experiences of a few sisters here on SI (and no doubt brothers) this experience and resulting hang-ups are next to nothing by comparison!
Isn't the Lord wonderful - He [i]does[/i] save to the uttermost when we let Him really heal and remake us from the inside out!
Blessings
Jeannette
|
| 2008/2/20 11:32 | |
|