Sharon, actually I appreciate the fact that it was brought to light in this thread that you apparently question the diety of Christ. (at least thats what I have gotten out of this)Thats important for me to know when discussing [b]anything[/b] with you because if we dont have Christ's diety in common... we have nothing in common... and therefore nothing to discuss.At the beginning of this thread I did not know that piece of important information.Krispy
wildbranch wrote:One or two people stood up for the remembering of the 4th commandment, while others opposed it, even hinting that one might be 'fallen from grace' to engage in Sabbath keeping.
I would just like to point out that Charles Spurgeon and A.W. Pink had a good understanding on the 4th commandment, and I do not believe that they were blind, or had any dishonest agenda:[b]FROM CHARLES SPURGEON'S CATECHISM (WHAT IS TO BE TAUGHT TO CHILDREN): 49 Q Which is the fourth commandment? A The fourth commandment is, Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor they cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates. For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it. 50 Q What is required in the fourth commandment? A The fourth commandment requires the keeping holy to God such set times as he has appointed in his Word, expressly one whole day in seven, to be a holy Sabbath to himself (Le 19:30 De 5:12). 51 Q How is the Sabbath to be sanctified? A The Sabbath is to be sanctified by a holy resting all that day, even from such worldly employments and recreations as are lawful on other days (Le 23:3), and spending the whole time in the public and private exercises of God's worship (Ps 92:1,2 Isa 58:13,14), except so much as is taken up in the works of necessity and mercy (Mt 12:11,12).[/b]
"...the reason why people become Hyper-Calvinists and Antinomians, is because some, who profess to be Calvinists, often keep back part of the truth, and do not, as Paul did, "declare all the counsel of God"; they select certain parts of Scripture, where their own particular views are taught, and pass by other aspects of God's truth. Such preachers as John Newton, and in later times, your own Christmas Evans, were men who preached the whole truth of God; they kept back nothing that God has revealed; and, as the result of their preaching, Antinomianism could not find a foot-hold anywhere." (Charles Spurgeon, Gospel of Sovereign Grace). "It is to be feared that some zealous brethren have preached the doctrine of justification by faith not only so boldly and so plainly, but also so baldly and so out of all connection with other truth, that they have led men into presumptuous confidences, and have appeared to lend their countenance to a species of Antinomianism very much to be dreaded. From a dead, fruitless, inoperative faith we may earnestly pray, "Good Lord, deliver us," yet may we be unconsciously, fostering it." (Charles Spurgeon, Faith and Regeneration)[/b]
they select certain parts of Scripture, where their own particular views are taught, and pass by other aspects of God's truth.
KrispyKrittr wrote:Sharon, actually I appreciate the fact that it was brought to light in this thread that you apparently question the diety of Christ. (at least thats what I have gotten out of this)Thats important for me to know when discussing [b]anything[/b] with you because if we dont have Christ's diety in common... we have nothing in common... and therefore nothing to discuss.At the beginning of this thread I did not know that piece of important information.Krispy
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Krispy Kritter: quote:[i]"Thats important for me to know when discussing anything with you because if we dont have Christ's diety in common... we have nothing in common... and therefore nothing to discuss"[/i]I am sorry that you feel that way KrispKritter.:-( However, I rest assured in the knowledge that [b]I stand accepted by the Most High God through the wonderful and glorious accomplishment of Yeshua, the Anointed One, the Son of the living God, and you will have to take up your case against me, with Him[/b].I, however, feel confident because of His mercy and grace, and because of my High Priest and Advocate, Yeshua Ha Maschiach, to approach the day of judgement with [b]every hope[/b] of being rewarded with eternal life. Thank you.2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.Revelation 20:12-15 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. [b]And the dead were judged according to their works[/b], by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one [b]according to his works.[/b] Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Tim 2:5*: "For there is [b]one God[/b], and there is [b]one mediator[/b] between God and men, the [b]man Christ Jesus[/b], who gave himself as a ransom for all".In the name of the Mediator, the man, Christ Jesus,Sharon*edited took out verse 6
wildbranch wrote:HeReigns, Are you castigating me for quoting from a fellow-posters comments and then addressing that portion? I see that done over and over again on the message board, and yet you feel to address me... As to the deity issue- Do you not recall that the moderators requested that the subject be closed? Why are you constantly baiting me to enter into the debate again? You have in the past judged and condemned me, and now you are again trying to convene a 'pre-judgement seat' here.If you wish to continue addressing me on this subject, in a personal way, HeReigns, feel free to contact me via my e-mail. I will be more than happy to address all your concerns. Sharon
I, however, feel confident because of His mercy and grace, and because of my High Priest and Advocate, Yeshua Ha Maschiach, to approach the day of judgement with every hope of being rewarded with eternal life. Thank you.
However, I rest assured in the knowledge that I stand accepted by the Most High God through the wonderful and glorious accomplishment of Yeshua, the Anointed One, the Son of the living God, and you will have to take up your case against me, with Him.
wildbranch wrote:
In the name of the Mediator, the man, Christ Jesus,Sharon
Katy-did wrote:Quote:I, however, feel confident because of His mercy and grace, and because of my High Priest and Advocate, Yeshua Ha Maschiach, to approach the day of judgement with every hope of being rewarded with eternal life. Thank you.
...Sharon, why all the pretentiousness with this [u][b]Yeshua Ha Maschiach[/b][/u]stuff? do you think it gives you more power or authority or something ? I'm not impressed by it, and never was!!!! Sounds Harsh Huh! But I can see through all the pretentiousness a *void* of the true **Gospel**.No matter how many names you know God by.
Sharon, who do you say Jesus Christ is?..
Miccah wrote:[i]Quote:In the name of the Mediator, the man, Christ Jesus,SharonAre you saying that Jesus is only a man, mediating for God?[/i]Miccah, just quoting Scripture there (from Paul)1 Tim. 5:5+6:[color=660000]"For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all"[/color][i]Is that ok?[/i] :-)
Katy-did, Wildbranch said : Quote. [color=0000ff]I, however, feel confident because of His mercy and grace, and because of my High Priest and Advocate, Yeshua Ha Maschiach, to approach the day of judgement with every hope of being rewarded with eternal life. Thank you.[/color] Unquote.This sounds like a wonderful testimony and quite scriptural. Why would you want to attack this ? You are correct in saying this sounds very HARSH. Your use of the terms "cults and sects" sounds rude and unnecessary. Katy-did, you said: Quote: [color=0000ff]Is your Yeshua not God? You call Him *The Atoned one*. That's rather new and different. Is He the atoned one, or the One who has atoned? [/color] Unquote.On reading Wildbranch's post I don't see 'atoned' One, but rather 'Anointed' One. You know that there is a very distinct difference between 'atoned' and 'anointed' no doubt? You should probably get back to her on this, because if you have confused me, I can only imagine her horror and amazement. :-)LOL ... i'd be laughing is this wasn't such a sad testimony and poor witnesss to someone who seems to be sincerely seeking. Shalom, Stephen [color=00000][b] "O for a thousand tongues to sing my great Redeemers' praise" [/color][/b]
