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Katy-did wrote:
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Furthermore, if we believe we are walking in the will of God, and we are doing His will according to His word to us, then what have we to fear from any bacterium out in the community?



Dorcas, Please correct me if I mis-understood. Are you saying if a Christian is living in God's will, he will NEVER get sick or catch any bacterial infections regardless of those infections.

So, if you get a cold, are you advertising to all you are out of God's will?

Please tell me I have mis-understood you.

Even innocent people and children and babies have gotten AIDS, due to mistakes in blood transfusions...not having the blood correctly tested and screened.

What say you?
Katy


I cannot answer for Dorcas, she does so well defending herself. But here's what says me.... when I started reading this fear propagating article and all the "God help us"... I, too, was asking "Where's your faith in God?" I finally read down to the one sane answer... Dorcas's!! This was her question:

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Dorcas:
Furthermore, if we believe we are walking in the will of God, and we are doing His will according to His word to us, then what have we to fear from any bacterium out in the community?


This is my intrepration of her question; she does not state that we will not get sick of anything, but the question does beg to be asked..."what do we have to fear from these things?"

I do not understand all the innocent people that have died through no fault of their own that throughout time. But I do know from the Word Himself that we are to fear God and fear Him alone. We are not to fear anything that comes nigh unto us. We are NOT to fear things that can kill only the body but we are to fear the One who can kill both body and soul and live accordingly.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. What says your Bible?

 2008/1/21 6:43









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However,do you not consider that it is very politically incorrect to blame the gay community for anything? That they may be responsible for anything? While it might well be true that the spread of staph infection got a boost in hospitals, it does not help that you have people engaging in sinful lifestyles which will hasten the spread of the disease. While most STDs are transmitted by sexual contact, it does become alarming when they become carriers for other diseases which require no sexual contact.


Ginnyrose,

I know the point of the article, it's blaming. I know they live in sin as did I before I came to know the Lord and have at times even in my walk with Him but are you saying that we really ARE to blame the gays?

To me this has to do with the fear thing again... Who are you going to fear?

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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Ephesians 6.12


I could be wrong but I believe the majority of woes in this world can be blamed on the church and it's behavior rather than the unsaved and their behavior.

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Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.
Galatians 6.1


We who know (and in past years, knew) the truth, instead of restoring with a spirit of meekness the broken, the lost, the weak, the feeble and even the sinful... we blamed them and ridiculed them and told them they were going to hell and we even killed them and now I believe, we (the church) are reaping what we have sown.

Let me push my case further and stretch your mind. You do know that we do not have to clean ourselves up before we come to church right? That if someone comes to church and says, "I watched pornography over the weekend and did the dirty but I'm sorry I'm working on it." They are welcomed back with open arms and told, "Brother/sister it's ok. You can't overcome overnight. It's a process." This is even true for the adultrer and the single person who trying not to have sex anymore. They can come and repent of ongoing sin and they are not kicked out IF THEY JUST repent or better yet act repentant.

I propose to all that the homosexual or lesbian is the ONLY person who must first clean up them selves before they can come to church and be welcomed with open arms. Who can carry that burden of cleaning themselves up without prayer support? Who, I ask you? No one. And if somehow they do make it in, God forbid they should fall some weekend and confess that to the church!!!

Think about it. Think about how we go out of our way to make others feel welcome in their sins and pray for them all the while they go through what they are going through but how was this ever done for the gay person?

All I'm saying is we cannot blame one group of people for disease, well we can but I think we will have to give an account before the judgment seat of Christ for it, especially when we encouraged others to blame as well.

We do NOT fight against homosexuals but against the principalities and powers IN OUR PRAYER CLOSET. The next verse in Ephesians 6.13 is:

Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

 2008/1/21 7:29
ginnyrose
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Lisa,

I suggest you reread the original article and the links I since posted.

The fear the writers are expressing is the consequences of the homosexual agenda the government is forcing upon the American children. Not only are we talking about sin we are also talking about the consequences of this sinful behavior which is deadly - even innocent people are dying because of an other's sin! This is what parents, grandparents fear - like me: I have nine grandchildren and another one on the way. At the moment some of my GC attend public schools. If they were to start teaching my GH that deviant behaviors are normal and encourage it, I would get very concerned about their safety. My maternal instinct is to protect my [grand] child from evil forces which will harm him/her.

Look at this article like a parent would who loves his/her children and see if you do not understand the thrust of it.

Blessings,
ginnyrose


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 2008/1/21 9:30Profile
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I had MRSA a few weeks ago. Then all my family (and close friends) got it as well. I thank the Lord that it was able to be treated and no one in my family (or friends) got too sick from it. Nasty little bug, but we just praised the Lord throughout.


[u][b]Job 13:15[/b][/u]

Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him...


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 Re: Epidemic Feared - 'Gays' May Spread Deadly Staph Infection to General Population


Hi everyone,

I hadn't realised I might be expected to reply again here.

ginnyrose asked

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do you not consider that it is very politically incorrect to blame the gay community for anything?

That's because unlike in the post-war era when STDs were rampant, no-one even dared to claim confidentiality because they understood the wider community's health was at stake, and being seen to care about that was expected of them. It is a function of society's acceptance of people with [u]no conscience[/u] (in the terms God would define 'conscience'), that we have had to give up proper community health management. And, to 'save' money. They are becoming endemic because the practicalities of tracing would be overwhelming in a loosely restrained society. Also, when times are easy, people care less for each other... as this situation confirms.

The power base in the homosexual community is not their ignorance, but their willful sin, and their vote, their money (because they often don't have the expense of children), and their willing collaboration with other dishonest practices. As for 'politically incorrect' I would not have guessed this article is risque in that respect.

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Dorcas, Please correct me if I mis-understood. Are you saying if a Christian is living in God's will, he will NEVER get sick or catch any bacterial infections regardless of those infections.

No. But I do believe we have no idea how much God protects us in many other ways apart from health, and that if we do get ill, we will know in our spirits whether we have to resist in Jesus' Name, or, allow it to be a time of hearing from the Lord in a special way. Either way, it doesn't scare me. If you can die of a broken neck at 5mph when hit gently from behind in a traffic queue, or be raised up from a coma when believing friends and family pray for you after days of unconsciousness, the priority I place highest is that of trusting the Lord with my whole life. For while I'm trying to run even a tiny bit of it... I'm tying His hands from ministering an even greater fulness of His care.

 2008/1/21 18:27









 Re: Epidemic Feared - 'Gays' May Spread Deadly Staph Infection to General Population



Intens4Him said

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Let me push my case further and stretch your mind. You do know that we do not have to clean ourselves up before we come to church right? That if someone comes to church and says, "I watched pornography over the weekend and did the dirty but I'm sorry I'm working on it." They are welcomed back with open arms and told, "Brother/sister it's ok. You can't overcome overnight. It's a process." This is even true for the adultrer and the single person who trying not to have sex anymore. They can come and repent of ongoing sin and they are not kicked out IF THEY JUST repent or better yet act repentant.

I propose to all that the homosexual or lesbian is the ONLY person who must first clean up them selves before they can come to church and be welcomed with open arms. Who can carry that burden of cleaning themselves up without prayer support? Who, I ask you? No one. And if somehow they do make it in, God forbid they should fall some weekend and confess that to the church!!!

Good word, sis. :-)

 2008/1/21 18:30
ginnyrose
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I could be wrong but I believe the majority of woes in this world can be blamed on the church and it's behavior rather than the unsaved and their behavior.



I have been thinking a lot about your response....now could you give me Scripture to prove this? I await your reply because this is a very important and serious statement you are making here.

ginnyrose


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