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| WHAT brings revival?? | | I'm trying to see some good edifying discussion on this one... I read somewhere on this site..."sermons that bring revival" Has a sermon ever brought revival?? Or WHAT brings revival??
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| | 2007/12/13 10:34 | | BenWilliams Member
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| Re: WHAT brings revival?? | | God brings revival...
...in accordance with true laborers.
A laborer is someone who has wrestled in the secret place of prayer, someone who is given to prayer and fasting and seeking the Lord.
Prayer brings revival, crying out to God for revival in prayer.
If you do a study throughout the scriptures, almost every single time God raised up a deliverer, or deliverance (revival) it was because God's people cried out to Him day and night in prayer.
Preaching will bring no revival unless it is indued with power from on high. Anointed with Holy Spirit power.
If you really want to know what brings revival, I have a name for you, Frank Bartleman. He was a witness of everything surrounding Azuza Street. He watched as another congregation was being raised up by God in the place of prayer, and then left what God called them to, and as a result the revival came to Azuza Street instead of to them. _________________ Benjamin Williams
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| 2007/12/13 10:41 | Profile | murrcolr Member
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| Re: | | God only and only God brings revival.
Before we start God ways are higher than ours and what I say here is not by any means the only way it will happen.
God has to start it for example he might start giving prophecy saying that there is a revival coming and what it will accomplish.
Many people can be aware that God wants to send one. Are they willing to pay the price.
Next he'll get a man.
A man willing to pay the price.
Thats the way God has planned to work here on earth through a man. He might tell that man his plan he might not. But he will start working on that man. He'll put his spirit inside that man. He'll teach train and make that man adisciple. Out of the training the man can start to respond he is no longer a babe in Christ. He himself know nows what is expected of him.
The man starts to lead a disciplined life.
Gods makes him stronger.
He is a praying man.
The man studies the word. God teaches him out of his word.
He see know crys out to God as he find that as he gets closer to God the more unclean the more unworthy of this calling.
He wants to be holy he is crying out to be clean. God starts putting on this man a deeper desire to find God. He shows the condition of the world around him.
This man sees a world that needs God. He sees that he needs God.
He humbles himself before God and says here I am send me. This man heart is breaking. What can he do.
He goes to the place where his God is. He prays strongly going into deep groans of intersession.
He seeks his God he cries out to his God. He turns and keeps turning to God he knows that God is the answer. He will ask his God and he will answer.
Then God comes he makes him clean, he is clean as a man can be, he is whiter than snow.
He can know teach transgessors the error of there way.
They the sinners find out there is something diffrent about this one God is with him.
The belivers are under strong conviction.
He is the gospel in manifestation. He practices what he preaches.
God is with him and he works in a mighty mighty way. People turn to God they are turning.
Know this group of people who are drawn to God. They start to cry out to God. 1.They humble themselves 2.They cry out to God and pray as they see this man pray. 3.They Seek God and as they know only God heal them. 4.They turn from there wicked ways they only want to please God.
The work grows and a powerful powerful powerful move of God has started.
God seems to be everywhere. The people keep coming the people just keep coming. People are being convicted of sin at work, on buses, on planes.
News spreads, people from diffrent districts diffrent countries they come. God draws them, God convcits them there hearts turn to God they know desire God in a deeper way.
They go home and the process starts over again. 1.They humble themselves 2.They God cry out to God 3.They Seek God 4.They turn from there wicked ways.
This a world wide move of God.
All because of God the Father. All because of Jesus. Thank you Holy Spirt. :-D :-D _________________ Colin Murray
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| Re: WHAT brings revival?? | | Quote:
brentw wrote: I'm trying to see some good edifying discussion on this one... I read somewhere on this site..."sermons that bring revival" Has a sermon ever brought revival?? Or WHAT brings revival??
What a great discussion! Thanks for getting this started and thanks to those that have already contributed some really good things to it.
I agree with what the others have said, it is GOD that brings revival. Specifically the Spirit of God is Who brings revival.
And I would agree that God has used a sermon to bring revival. Sinners in the Hands of An Angry God is the first one that comes to mind. But also, what of sermons that stir the people to start praying and seeking God desperately and persistently for revival?
Are not sermons, prayers, books, etc but stepping stones, tools that God can use to do a mighty work in the midst of His people? In and of themselves these things cannot bring revival, but I think they can be [i]means[/i] that God can [i]use[/i]. God has different instruments and means of working here in this world.
This radio interview with Gerhard DuToit that took place in New Zealand has some good insight into revival in parts 4 and 5:
New Zealand Interview - Part 1 https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=16035
New Zealand Interview - Part 2 https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=16036
New Zealand Interview - Part 3 https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=16037
New Zealand Interview - Part 4 https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=16038
New Zealand Interview - Part 5 https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=16039
I think it's more of a case of WHO brings revival and WHAT instruments HE chooses to use to bring it. :) |
| 2007/12/13 13:31 | | InTheGarden Member
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| Re: WHAT brings revival?? | | I am very glad that you brought up this subject!
I would have to agree that God is the one who brings revival, but there are many other key components as well - although I highly doubt there is a "recipe" for revival. I think that prayer is essential to bringing revival. God has layed burdens on my heart for revival and I know that I am not the only one. God is and has been searching for prayer warriors who will intercede for revival.
On this line, I think that repentance is also necessary for revival: "if my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land." (2 Chron. 7:14) Also, on the Wednesday morning of the Revival Conference, I opened up my Bible randomly and came to this verse: "now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; [b]and the glory of the Lord filled the house.[/b]" (2 Chron. 7:1) Solomon had just prayed a long but wonderful prayer saying that if God's people sinned and turned from God, and that if they would repent, God would forgive and restore what had been lost. These are two of my favorite scriptures because they give the promise that if we, God's people, will repent from our wicked ways, and stand in the gap and intercede for the American church as a whole (not only the American church - but we need it so badly!), then He will answer with healing and forgiveness.
This is just a little of what God has shown me and helped me with.
Mikah _________________ Mikah Litchfield
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| 2007/12/14 11:59 | Profile | c52 Member
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| Re: WHAT brings revival?? | | The Holy Spirit brings revival, only He can bring dead men back to life, no man's sermon in and of itself can bring anyone back from the dead, dead men can't believe, it's a gift of the Spirit of God. _________________ Charles H Holston
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| 2007/12/16 0:03 | Profile | poet Member
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| Re: | | im responding to murrcolr, from scottland. you have either experienced revival for yourself, or and I believe this to be true. Your about to experience it again. A church friend of mine has a relative in scottland and I was telling her about the one you had in 1949, and the little book called When God stepped down from heaven. She said it was prophesied recently, your about to have one again soon. :-) Your explanation and process verifys all that the Lord has revealed to me and I honestly believe were going to have one here in washington state. I know a few including my self that are going through this process, and our desert place is soooo long and it causes us to dig, and dig, and dig, for His voice and reasurance. Holiness, purity, obedience, and most of all the desire to be able to pray with tears, for the lost. We can see pastors struggling so hard to try and get converts. And we see that we need a move of God to change the hearts of men, women, teenagers. We need God to step down again here in this nation. It comes down to either we get his mercy, or its judgment time in this country. God bless and thanks for your insite, it confirms my own revelation and that stuff you just cant get from books can we.?
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| 2007/12/16 1:22 | Profile | murrcolr Member
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| Re: | | I do not think revival comes out of one sermon.
There has to come a point when we despair of our condition and seek God.
Then after a time a meeting(sermon) will come where it will all start.
FISHERS OF MEN The year 1921 was a time of economic disaster for the fishing communities of north-east Scotland. But the despair of the fisher folk led them to turn to God
The early years of this century had been a boom time for the fishing industry of north-east Scotland. Almost 90 per cent of the working population earned their living landing and processing herring. But it was all soon to change. The 1914-18 war robbed the herring fleets of their European customers. The government could only underwrite the losses for two years beyond that. Fishermen could not get a living wage and many faced bankruptcy. Fishermen tied up their boats and went on strike, but without any effect.
Despairing of any human help, the fishing community turned to prayer. Being of staunch calvinist stock, they saw the severe problems as a sign of God's anger at their complacency. They began to repent of their sins.
God caused two very different streams to flow together and create the torrent of revival. One was a mission to local villages by an itinerant missionary, Fred clark. It was traditional preaching of the gospel. The other was a wave of renewal centred on East Anglia where a converted barrel-maker, Jack Troup, was preaching powerfully.
Clark's preaching reached the women and childen of the area while the fishing fleet was away. The men were convicted by Troup's sermons when they landed in East Anglia. After the fleet finally returned to Fraserburgh and Peterhead in the autumn, awakened husbands and sons were reunited with awakened wives and daughters.
Jack Troup was guided in a dream to travel up to that part of Scotland and people flocked in their hundreds from this thinly populated region to hear him. A newspaper reporter from Aberdeen noted: "Without saying a word he raised his right arm and everyone in the hall, even those in the street, knelt down and prayed. Within a minute sounds of sobbing came from every part of the hall, and a woman's voice cried, "0 Lord, forgive and forget!".
Then Troup preached. He had, said the journalist, the noisiest voice he had ever heard and did not need a microphone! Some cried out under conviction, others shouted hallelujahs, and many streamed forward to commit their lives to the Lord. "Then," said the reporter, "came a perfect tornado of unsuppressed prayer, the voices so mingled that only here and there could the voices be distinguished.
"After the meeting I saw seventeen boys and girls kneeling in prayer in the street, and 200 fishermen down by their boats on the shore, listening as parables were read and explained to them. After each explanation the men knelt down together on the shore and engaged silently in prayer, wringing their hands, their bodies swaying to and fro."
Local churches of every denomination were mobilised to 'pull in the nets'. All along the Moray Firth congregations swelled. The Salvation Army alone claimed 600 new converts that year. It was estimated at the time that throughout the region some ten thousand souls were saved through the 'fishermen's revival'.
Some converts told of coming under such conviction of sin that they fell to the ground, but the majority came to the Saviour with quiet joy. A few conversions made the headlines: noted drunkards, a gang of local Peterhead thugs, even some who had initially opposed and mocked the revival.
What is perhaps most striking is the background of the converts. "They are," says the reporter, "predominantly young men aged 15-25; some of them had previously been notorious characters, but the majority had simply been indifferent to religion."
_________________ Colin Murray
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