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Also know what we are to be judged for at the Judgement seat of Christ.

Rom 2:16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.


In Christ there is no variableness.

Rom 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Jam 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Jesus Christ makes us fire proof and is like rat poison to a rat, when it come to Satan. Jesus Christ has overcome the world.

Jhn 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

1Jo 2:13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him [that is] from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

1Jo 2:14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him [that is] from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

In Christ: Phillip


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I have always found great comfort in what Jesus says in the book of John 5:24,concerning judgement and believers.He often brings it to me to chew on and really taste the way this truth tastes,before I've swallowed it. His word brings life to me. I praise God who is faithful to perform this living word in my life.He's the only One who can and since I know it is His divine will for me I rest there,knowing it is mine because He desires that it be so.He will perform it!


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This Herescope post is an excellent devotional prepared by Professor Anton Bosch on the heresy of adding to Scripture. This devotional refers to the heretical doctrine of the "New Breed," which Herescope has been examining the past few weeks. Bosch's specific comments on this doctrine appeared in an earlier Herescope post 2/03/06. http://herescope.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html


[b][u]Do Not Exceed What is Written[/u][/b] By Anton Bosch


Do “not go beyond the things which are written” (1Corinthians 4:6, ASV).

Adding to the Scriptures is a very old problem amongst religious people. The Rabbis were particularly adept at adding many books, sayings and traditions to the Word of God. This had become such a problem that Jesus said: “you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition… in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men” (Matthew 15:6,9). In spite of all their knowledge, they had forgotten that written into the Law was the clear command that “You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it” (Deuteronomy 4:2). (This instruction is also repeated in Deut 12:32, Proverbs 30:6 and Revelation 22:18-19).

Instead of learning from the mistakes of the Jews, the church perpetuated this trend of adding all sorts of things to the basic Word. These added extras take the form of traditions, church council decisions, creeds and apocryphal books. Then there are the cults who have their own writings that are given the same, or higher, authority than the Word.

Even more disturbing is the trend that has developed over the past 30 years in Evangelical circles of adding prophecies, dreams, visions and the random statements of preachers to God’s Word. Many of these sayings are wild and wacky, and many blatantly contradict scripture, but that does not matter to a generation of Christians who have been trained to simply swallow the rubbish that they are fed without discrimination and discernment.

But is the Bible complete and does the cry of the Reformation: “sola scriptura” (only scripture) have any relevance? We have to turn to the Bible itself for the answers.

As mentioned above, it is a direct command of scripture not to add to it. This command is repeated at the beginning (Deuteronomy), the middle (Proverbs) and the end (Revelation) of our Bible. It is interesting that it is also repeated in each of the major genres of the Word. (Law, poetic books, epistles and prophetic books).

Jude says: “I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 3). The words “the faith” refers to the truths that Christians regard as “the doctrine.” It was delivered “once for all,” meaning that it will not be added to or be changed. Thus the body of truth which was committed to the writers of the Bible is complete and final. The book of Hebrews opens with the statement that “God has spoken by His Son.” Yes, in the Old Testament He spoke in many different ways through different vessels, but He has spoken. He is not continuing to speak and neither is there any new thing or any progressive revelation. What He wanted to say He has said through His Son and that is recorded in the Scriptures and all that remains is for us to obey that Word. The notion that people today are so special that they are receiving revelation that God did not give to His Son or Apostles is rooted in sheer arrogance.

When we add to the scriptures our own dreams, traditions and ideas we basically call Paul a liar when he said: “I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God” (Acts 20:27). Of course this does not mean that Paul knew and delivered all of God’s knowledge but rather that everything we need to know for life and eternity has been delivered through those whom he chose to write the Bible.

That men will add their own ideas to scripture is not surprising since many of these dreamers see themselves as superior to Paul and the other apostles. However, what is surprising is that so many Christians are swallowing the rubbish that these false prophets and teachers are spewing. It seems that it no longer matters that they clearly contradict Scripture, firstly because people do not know their Bibles and thus are open to grievous deception. Secondly people are deceived by these teachings because they have elevated men to positions where their words become the very Word of God. No longer is it only the domain of the Pope to claim infallibility, but every second preacher has fallen into the same trap and claims to speak on God’s behalf and to be inerrant.

Of course, when latter-day prophecies, dreams and “words” contradict Scripture, either the prophet or the Bible is wrong and in error. Can you imagine the arrogance of a man who declares that the Bible is mistaken since God has “revealed” the “truth” to him?

One of many examples of this blatant contradiction of Scripture is the "New Breed" doctrine that claims that God will raise up a super-race of Christians in the last days who will have powers and an anointing that even the Apostles did not have. These people will supposedly lead a world-wide revival that will bring over one billion converts into the Kingdom. The Bible’s version of Christianity in the end-times however is very different and predicts a great falling away (2Thessalonians 2:3, 1Timothy 4:1) and people that indulge in all sorts of immorality, who love themselves, pleasure and money have a form of godliness without any power. (2Timothy 3:1-5)

Often these extreme errors are so disjointed, irrational and void of any truth that a rational and biblical response becomes very difficult. Consider the claim of one man that Jesus Himself would appear on his platform during a particular meeting. How do you respond to something so outrageous? (Not surprising, the date set for this “event” has come and gone and Jesus never appeared.)

Believers feel intimidated by these personalities and feel that they are not in a position to argue with someone who claims such a personal revelation from Heaven itself. And, yes one should not argue with those who are so deluded. But, there is one thing every true believer must ask himself and the preacher: “Where is it written?” The youngest believer amongst us can and should ask this question of everyone who claims to speak on the Lord’s behalf.

So the next time someone says something that sounds strange to you – simply ask for proof from the Bible. If proof is not forthcoming then reject the teaching, no matter how wonderful it sounds.

1 Thessalonians 5:20 and 21 says: [i]“Do not despise prophecies. Test all things; hold fast what is good.” [/i]
Yes, test everything against the Word of God. God does not change His Word and His Word contains everything that we need to know. If the Word does not support some idea, then reject it outright no matter how good it sounds and what miracles the speaker may provide in order to prove that he has been sent from God.

"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians 2:9-10).

 2007/12/26 19:33









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The burden on my heart for this thread was against deceptions. The articles posted on this thread, have been with that in mind alone.
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Amo 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD

[b]Dumping Sola Scriptura[/b]

Quotes: [i]“In the actual practices of the Evangelical community in North America, there is an over-commitment to Scripture in a way that is false, irrational, and harmful to the cause of Christ. . . . And it has produced a mean-spiritedness among the over-committed that is a grotesque and often ignorant distortion of discipleship unto the Lord Jesus.

[The problem is] "the idea that the Bible is the sole source of knowledge of God, morality, and a host of related important items. Accordingly, the Bible is taken to be the sole authority for faith and practice.”

J.P.Moreland quoted in "Postcard from San Diego:
Fighting 'Bibliolatry' at the Evangelical Theological Society,"
by Ted Olsen, Christianity Today, 11/14/07.[/i]


When evangelical leaders talk about a Second Reformation, they mean reversing the tenets of the First Reformation. A stunning example of this occurred recently when evangelical professor J.P. Moreland blasted "over-commitment to the Bible" and neglect of "work on broad cultural themes." If this is the current state of apologetics in the evangelical world, then grievous times have arrived.

Perhaps this lack of commitment to Scripture alone, i.e., Sola Scriptura, explains the recent activities of Rick Warren, Robert Schuller, Leith Anderson, Emergents, and a host of Fuller Theological Seminary leaders, who could all sign on to a common faith document with Moslem leaders (see previous post). There is a terrible omission in this so-called Christian worldview.

Below, Anton Bosch has some pertinent comments about this rather blatant shift in focus.

[b]Overcommitted to the Bible?[/b]

At a recent conference, the most popular paper resulted in four times as many people crowding into the room than it was designed to hold. The title of this provocative lecture was “How Evangelicals became overcommitted to the Bible and what can be done about it.”*

The speaker said that in “the actual practices of the Evangelical community in North America, there is an over-commitment to Scripture in a way that is false, irrational and harmful to the cause of Christ.” He claimed that this over commitment has produced a mean-spirited and grotesque distortion of Christianity. He also said that the problem was with “the idea that the Bible is the sole source of knowledge of God, morality, and a host of important items.” I will not bore you any further with the rest of his mindless ramblings.

So what?, I hear you say, “this is what you can expect from atheists, liberal theologians and other unbelievers.” The problem is that these ideas were proposed at a meeting of the Evangelical Theological Society by no-one less than J.P. Moreland , a well-known Evangelical theologian and professor at Talbot School of Theology, which describes itself as “a conservative, evangelical seminary”!

If this is what it means to be Evangelical, then I am not one of those.

First, we need to confirm that the Bible is indeed the sole source of knowledge about God. Nothing about God can be discovered through any other means than through His Word. Not only is the Bible the sole source of knowledge about God, but it is also the sole source of knowledge of morality (right and wrong) and of every important matter that affects mankind. For generations believers and churches have confirmed that the Bible is the only authoritative and infallible rule of faith, practice, doctrine and daily living. Or in the words of the Reformers: “Sola Scriptura” (only Scripture).

The sad fact is that Moreland was simply verbalizing what most “Christians” think. Even though they won’t admit to it, the majority of “Christians” believe science rather than the Bible. They trust their experience rather than the Scriptures and their traditions over the Word of God. Most believe that common sense is equal to Bible truth. Psychology is seen as more relevant than the Word of God and the television is more true (and exciting) than the Book. Worst of all, they believe their preachers even when they contradict the Bible.

Next we need to ask the question: “Are Evangelicals indeed overcommitted to the Bible?” The answer is an emphatic NO! The reality is that the vast majority of Christians do not really believe the Bible and they are not even moderately committed to it, let alone over-committed to it. And before we speak in general terms, let’s think about ourselves. The reality is that if you and I really believed that the Bible is the authoritative Word of God, we would live very different lives and be very different people. Here is some evidence:

The Bible says that “for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned” (Matthew 12:36-37). If we really believed that, every one of us would not say half the things we do say.
The Bible teaches that unbelievers will be condemned to an eternity in Hell (Revelation 20:14-15). If we really believed that, we would be spending much more time on our knees in prayer. And we would be pleading with people to make right with God with a sincerity and conviction that would convince many that we actually believed what we were saying.
The Bible teaches that Jesus is coming soon and at a time when we least expect Him (1Thessalonians 5:2-3). Yet the vast majority of “Christians” live as though He is never coming back.
The Bible reveals that God knows and sees everything all the time and yet we act as though God does not know or see what we do in secret and that He is unaware of our deceit, lies and hypocrisy.

In the same way we can examine countless Scriptures and see that very very few of us actually, really believe the Bible and are committed, not just to read it but to live it. Very few Christians believe that the Bible is God’s Word – the word God has spoken. Most believe that it only contains some words about God, mixed with some suggestions for a happy life.

No, the Bible is God speaking to mankind. It has no less authority than the ten words God Himself scribed into the two tablets of stone on Mount Sinai. He has not changed His mind about His Word and it will be the standard against which every life and action will be judged. Whenever we open the pages of the Book we should do so with reverence and awe – they are God’s eternal words.

We don’t need less commitment to the Bible we need more – a lot more. We need a fresh reverence, love and respect for the Bible. It should not be the basis of speculation and debate but rather of obedience and practice. We need preachers who will unreservedly commit to the Bible, the whole Bible and nothing but the Bible. We need men who will “preach the word” (2Timothy 4:2) without fear or favor. We need Christians who are humble enough to believe God’s Word, no matter what others say or think. And we need churches that are committed to actually expect their members to live according to the Bible. In short – we need to get back to the Bible.

Heretics like Moreland should be excommunicated publicly. Schools, and the products of the schools, that harbor such unbelievers should be shunned. Churches should not accept preachers that have studied under such men or in such seminaries.

In case you think that is radical, then hear what Paul said: “But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:8-9).

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When evangelical leaders talk about a Second Reformation, they mean reversing the tenets of the First Reformation.



Well said.


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Brother Mike, I was just sitting here reading the first article above again - "Do Not Exceed What is Written" - and totally amazed at how it's covered all that we've been through lately.

GOD help us to covet His Word.

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2 Corinthians 10:3-5

3For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)

5Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

How can we do this?


Romans12:1&2

Present yourselves a living sacrifics, holy and acceptable unto God which is your reasonalbe service, [u][b]and be not conformed to this world but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may know the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.[/b][/u]

One must have the mind of Christ to bring every thought to the obedience of Christ.

How can this be done?

Put On Christ, ...and let no longer I but Christ in you and the power of His resurrection, as you live by the faith of Christ.

He is your Righteousness
He is the Word
You live by the faith of Christ in you.

We have the anointing that we abide in Him, and He in us.


Love in Christ
Katy

 2008/1/11 18:29
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Hi Katy,

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One must have the mind of Christ to bring every thought to the obedience of Christ.

How can this be done?

Put On Christ, ...and let no longer I but Christ in you and the power of His resurrection, as you live by the faith of Christ.



How can this be done? ;-)

MC


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How can this be done? ;-)



Hi Compton.

Well, Jesus tells us exactly how this can be done.......Rev 3

Buy of me Gold tried in the fire that you may be rich,( eyes to see and ears to hear) and that your nakedness does not show.

You know, the Lord does not pass on to you anything substantial apart from the Fellowship of His sufferings. It is through our fellowship of these sufferings Lord imparts and reveals Himself to us.

So many today think God is just depositing Himself into you by dreams and visions. How totally sad that day will be to many. His word is wrought in us.

When looking at the OT, and the ****Beating of the Candlesticks**** there is deep insight.

Love in Christ
Katy ;-)

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"Spiritual Warfare" ~

Reposting some from beginning.

The Word says, "men's hearts will fail them for fear" ... but it is not so with His People.
They are Mighty, to the pulling down of strongholds and the gates of Hell Will Not prevail against them.

"[b]Fear Not[/b] ~ Suit Up"

{Eph 6:10-18}

[b]"Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.[/b]


[i]For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand - Stand therefore[/i], having [b]your loins girt about with Truth[/b], and having on [b]the breastplate of righteousness[/b];

And your [b]feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace[/b];

[u]Above all[/u], taking the [b]shield of faith[/b], wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

And take [b]the helmet of salvation[/b], and [b]the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God[/b]:

[u] Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for [b]all[/b] saints"[/u]



~ If we look closely at this Apostasy or the events of this world around us - even our own personal lives at times - we see that what is being "attacked" is our Armor - Without which Paul says, we can't stand against what is here or coming.


Looking at each of these individually - I think we'll see just how each has been watered down or tossed aside by these new teachings, fears, etc., that are in this temporary world.

His Sheep Know His Voice and won't follow another.

They can quote Psalm 23 with confidence.

HE is gentle with His "Little Flock" and strengthens them, precept by precept. Bless our LORD & SHEPHERD KING.


[b]Belt of 'TRUTH'

Breastplate of 'RIGHTEOUSNESS'

Sandals of 'PEACE'

Shield of 'FAITH'

Helmet of 'SALVATION'

Sword of the spirit "GOD'S WORD"[/b]


[url=http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/armorofgod-txt.html]See two helpful Charts[/url]
There is also an eight week teaching on that site about "The Armor".

Review -

Belt of 'TRUTH' - False doctrines are on the increase. Impossible to list them all here. They 'are' on the increase. The Word of GOD says, "MOST will fall away."

Breastplate of 'RIGHTEOUSNESS' - the two extremes that will destroy a walk with God - Easy-Believism or Legalism.

Sandals of 'PEACE' - We were warned that the attacks from the enemy and even from those in "the church" would Increase in the last days - the attempts to throw people into confusion, outward attacks, and demonic attacks would attempt to rob those who are trying hard to walk their talk by aiming at their Peace in Christ.

Shield of 'FAITH' - Here we have the Hyperfaith movements and those like them - to those teachings that weaken the Faith - like legalism, just for one. The number of these faith weaking teachings are numerous.

Helmet of 'SALVATION' - again - where either Easy Believism or Legalism can disarm or destroy.

Sword of the spirit "GOD'S WORD" - This - HIS WORD - is taking a secondary place in most places and being replaced by the words of men - men's opinions and the mishandling of His Word.
Without the Sword - what place has a soldier in warfare ? Most especially the warfare that The Word says is Yet to come ?


Thank God for Bereans. Thank God for those who heed the warning to "Watch" and for those who take heed to the 'Signs' that Jesus told us to watch for, in "those days" --- which are just beginning in these days.

{Eph 6:10-18}

[i]"Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand - Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with Truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints"[/i]



1Ti 4:16 [i]Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.[/i]



[b]1Th 5:8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of [u]faith and love[/u]; and for a helmet, the [u]hope[/u] of salvation.

1Co 13:13 And now abideth [u]faith, hope, love[/u], these three; but the greatest of these is [u]love[/u].

2Co 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.[/b]


Against that day ....

Could you all help me to post 'VICTORY' (Anti-Fear/Armor)Verses for His Saints?

Thank you and LORD Bless.

"Rejoice in The LORD Always & again I say Rejoice"


EDIT: Reconsidered - Will start new thread for these type verses.

Thank you !!! ;-)

 2008/1/13 10:27





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