[b]PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL DEATH FROM ADAM’S FALL
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PHYSICAL AND SPIRITUAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST[/b]

[i]Commentary on 1 Corinthians 15:21-22 & Romans 5:12-21[/i]

By Jesse Morrell

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[b]PHYSICAL DEATH & PHYSICAL LIFE [/b]

Physical death in Adam and physical life through Christ contrasted:

[b]1Cor 15:21-22 “For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.” [/b]

Adam brought physical death upon all of his posterity when he was removed from the Garden of Eden where the tree of life was. Man needed to eat from the tree of life to live, which is why the tree was in the garden in the first place. But without it, the body was subjected to death, and would inevitably die. So, when Adam was removed from the garden on account of his sin, all those who were seminally in his loins (so to speak) were removed as well.

“And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever: Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the Garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man: and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.” (Genesis 3:22-24)

So, infant children, who are morally “innocent” (2 Kings 21:16; 24:4; Joel 3:19) and have not yet “done anything” morally “good or evil” (Romans 9:11), are subjected to physical death as a consequence of Adam’s sin since they are born outside of the Garden of Eden. But since infant children have neither guilt (because they are innocent) nor any sin (they have committed none), infant children do not go to Hell but to the Kingdom of God if they die in infancy (2 Samuel 12:23; Matthew 19:14), since they have no sin to be punished for.

But now through Christ, we have a physical resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:22), a glorified body (1 Corinthians 15:42-45, 52-55), and access to the tree of life (Revelation 2:7; 22:2, 14) and to the water of life (Revelation 22:17).

We inherit a body from Adam that is subjected to death, but we will receive a body from Christ which is not, as it is a body capable of living forever. Adam brought physical death, and Christ has brought the physical resurrection. Because of Adam, the tree of life was removed from all men, and all men, in consequence, are destined to die. But through Christ comes the resurrection and access to the tree of life, and, in consequence, the righteous will have eternal life. Christ restores what Adam lost.

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[b]SPIRITUAL DEATH & SPIRITUAL LIFE[/b]

Spiritual death through Adam and spiritual life through Christ contrasted:

[b]ROMANS 5:12:

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin . . .”[/b]

Adam brought sin into the world by his own free will, and spiritual death comes by sin. Adam became dead in sin (separated from God), just as God said he would, the very day that he ate from the tree. Though Adam physically died many years later, on account of being removed from the garden that had the tree of life, Adam spiritually died the same day he sinned against God.

“In the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die” (Genesis 2:17). Since God cannot fellowship with or dwell with sin, Adam spiritually died, and became spiritually separated from God, the day he sinned. “And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died” (Genesis 5:5); that is, Adam eventually physically died since he was removed from the tree of life (Genesis 3:22-24).

[b]“. . . and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”[/b]

Spiritual death comes by sin, so all who choose to sin become spiritually dead. Because God cannot have fellowship with those who are in sin, those who are in sin must be separated from God, and thus they are spiritually dead in their sins.

“For I was alive without the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died [spiritually and morally, since Paul was still physically alive to write this]” (Romans 7:9).

“But sin . . . working death in me . . . .” (Romans 7:13).

“. . . alienated and enemies [relationally] . . . by wicked works” (Colossians 1:21).

"And you, being dead [spiritually and morally, since they were still physically alive] in your sins [not Adam’s sin] . . . ” (Colossians 2:13).

“But your iniquities [not Adam’s] have separated between you and your God [brought spiritual death], and your sins [not Adam’s] have hid His face from you [separation]” (Isaiah 59:2).

[b]ROMANS 5:13

“(For until the law sin was in the world . . . ”[/b]

The Law of Moses did not originate right and wrong. Rather, it declared right and wrong, since sin existed before the law was given. The law reveals what sin is, to point it out.

“Was then that which is good [the law] made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working [spiritual] death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful” (Romans 7:13).

“I had not known sin, but by the law . . . ” (Romans 7:7).

[b]“ . . . but sin is not imputed when there is no law.”[/b]

Just as faith is imputed [accounted as] righteousness (Romans 4:11), disobedience to the law is imputed [accounted as] sin. The Bible says, “to him that knows to do good, and does it not, to him it is sin” (James 4:17).

And sinning against known law brings spiritual death. “For I was alive without the law once, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died [spiritual and moral death]” (Romans 7:9).

[b]ROMANS 5:14

“Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses . . . ”[/b]

In between Adam and Moses was the time when the law was not yet written on stone tablets. Only the law of nature existed. Nevertheless, men were spiritually and morally dead in their sins because they violated the law of their own conscience; they did what they knew to be wrong.

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God has shown it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; . . . they glorified him not as God” (Romans 1:18-21).

“For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another” (Romans 2:14-15).

So, before the Law of Moses was given, spiritual death still reigned, since the law of nature, the law of their conscience, was being violated.

[b]“ . . . even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.”[/b]

Spiritual death reigned from Adam to Moses unto all men who sinned, even if their sin was not in the likeness of Adam’s transgression. For Adam transgressed a commandment; but those in between Adam and Moses acted contrary to the law of nature.

God must be separated from all sin (Hebrews 7:26; 1 John 1:5; 3:5). Therefore, all sin must lead to spiritual death. “Greater sin” (John 19:11), committed by those who have greater knowledge, or lesser sin, committed by those with lesser knowledge, must still separate a man from God. So those with “greater sin” or lesser sin are still dead in their sins. (The relation of knowledge to the measure of guilt is discussed further on.)

Those who transgress a commandment, like Adam did (“Adam’s transgression”), become dead in sin. And those who violate the law of nature, like the Gentiles did, become dead in sin. Death reigned from Adam to Moses, upon those who did not have the Ten Commandments, because they violated the law of nature.

[b]ROMANS 5:15

“But not as the offense, so also is the free gift.”[/b]

They are not similar in nature, value, design, or result. The former was from disobedience; the latter was from obedience. The former resulted in death; the latter resulted in life. Adam is contrasted with Christ, and their effects are polar opposites. One brought life and justification, while the other brought death and condemnation. The one was only a leading, influence, and example; the other brought a leading, influence, and example, but it also brought the power to forgive past sin, so it is “much more.”

[b]“For if through the offense of one many be dead, much more through the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.”[/b]

Adam’s disobedience brought sin into the world. Spiritual and moral death comes to those who choose to join in Adam’s rebellion. So, many who are dead in their sins (“be dead”) are dead as a result of Adam’s leading into sin, example of sin, and lasting influence to sin. But now the gift of eternal spiritual life [knowing God (John 17:3)] is offered through Christ to all those who are spiritually dead in their sins. But the offer of a gift must still be voluntarily received and accepted by the one to whom the gift is offered.

Those who choose or decide [by free will] to follow Adam are spiritually dead in their sins; that is, they are separated from God relationally (Isaiah 59:2; Romans 7:9, 13; Colossians 2:13), without any righteousness (Romans 6:20), and they will receive eternal death – the punishment of hellfire (2 Thessalonians 1:9; Revelation 21:8). But those who choose or decide [by free will] to follow Christ will be spiritually alive; that is, they will be reconciled unto God relationally (John 17:3; Romans 5:10; 2 Corinthians 5:18; Colossians 1:21), without sin (Romans 6:7, 11, 13; 8:10), and they will receive eternal life in the world to come (Mark 10:30).

[b]ROMANS 5:16

“And not as it was by the one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.”[/b]

Adam and Christ are once again contrasted; the effects of their works are different. The influence of Adam’s sin resulted in judgment unto condemnation, while the effect of Christ’s obedience resulted in a free gift unto justification.

Notice it does not say that the sin of one condemned them all, but that the sin of one led to the condemnation of them all.

Because both condemnation and justification are conditional, neither is unconditionally universal. Condemnation is conditional upon personal transgression, while justification is conditional upon a personal decision to accept the gift by repenting and believing. Men are condemned for their own personal sins (1 Corinthians 6:9; Revelation 21:8), and reconciliation requires a personal choice (2 Corinthians 5:20).

[b]ROMANS 5:17

“For if by one man’s offense death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.”[/b]

Through the influence of one man’s disobedience, spiritual death reigned. How much more would grace and righteousness reign through Christ to those who would choose and decide to receive it.

[b]ROMANS 5:18

“Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation . . . ” [/b]

The influence and effects of Adam’s sin led unto the condemnation of all men, upon all those who choose to sin by their own free will. The relation between Adam’s sin and men’s condemnation is that Adam’s sin provided the circumstances of men’s temptation and the occasion for men’s sins. The result of the influence of Adam’s offense brought judgment and condemnation to all men, since the result of his influence is that all have chosen to sin.

Consider just one of the effects of Adam’s sin. Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (Genesis 2:17), and all of his descendent's inherit this knowledge called the conscience (Romans 2:14-15). All men are accountable to the knowledge that they have, and all are judged according to that knowledge (Matthew 11:21-22; John 9:41; 15:22; James 4:17). So, judgment is according to knowledge, which leads to condemnation, when each man gives an account for his own personal deeds.

“The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin” (Deuteronomy 24:16).

“The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor the children be put to death for the fathers; but every man shall be put to death for his own sin” (2 Kings 14:6).

“The fathers shall not die for the children, neither shall the children die for the fathers, but every man shall die for his own sin” (2 Chronicles 25:4).

“What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge? As I live, says the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, it shall die” (Ezekiel 18:2-4).

“Yet say ye, Why? does not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live. The soul that sins, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him” (Ezekiel 18:19-20).

“For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his [not Adam’s] works” (Matthew 16:27).

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he [not Adam] hath done, whether it be good or bad” (2 Corinthians 5:10).

“ . . . whose end shall be according to their [not Adam’s] works” (2 Corinthians 11:15).

“And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his [not Adam’s] work shall be” (Revelation 22:12).

[b]“ . . . even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.”[/b]

Through Christ’s obedience of shedding His blood as an alternative, replacement, or substitute for our punishment, the free gift of reconciliation is offered unto all men unto justification of life. Because Christ has shed His blood, our punishment of hellfire can be dispensed with (Hebrews 9:22), our debt can be pardoned (Matthew 6:12; 18:27; Luke 7:42), and we can have an eternal relationship with God. Through Christ, men can be justified (that is, reckoned righteous and not have their past sins accounted against them (Romans 4:6-9)), which is the same thing as saying they can be forgiven, so they can enter into the spiritual life of knowing God (John 17:3).

[b]ROMANS 5:19

“For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners . . . ”[/b]

Through Adam’s leading, influence, and example, men have voluntary chosen to become sinners of their own free will. Adam has provided the circumstances of temptation and the occasions to sin through his leading, influence, and example, though each man is the cause of his own sin, and is therefore accountable for his sin, and for his sin only.

One man can wrongly influence another man, who wrongly influences another man, who wrongly influences another man, who wrongly influences another man, and on and on it goes. But if we were to trace all of these influences back as far as we can go, we would terminate upon Adam, who started this chain reaction, in the garden. So Adam has made many to sin by his leading, influence, and example.

It can also be argued that because of Adam’s fall, all of his descendants inherit physical depravity which inclines them, influences them, and tempts them to sin, and in this way does Adam “make” us sinners, though we voluntarily choose to obey those inclinations, influences, and temptations by our own free will.

Many Old Testament Kings “made Israel to sin” (1 Kings 14:16; 15:26, 30, 34; 16:13, 26; 21:22; 22:52; 2 Kings 3:3; 10:29, 31; 13:2; 14:24; 15:9, 18, 24, 28; 21:11, 16; 23:15); that is, through their leading, influence, and example they made Israel to sin.

Foreign women caused King Solomon to sin (Nehemiah 13:26); that is, through their leading, influence, and example, Solomon decided to sin. By setting up high places of Baal, men caused Judah to sin (Jeremiah 32:35); that is, they sinned because of this leading, influence, and example. Israel had leaders who would “lead [them]” and “caused [them] to err” (Isaiah 3:12) by their leading, influence, and example. Through a person’s leading, influence, and example, a little child can be caused to sin (Matthew 18:6; Mark 9:42; Luke 17:2). The leading, influence, and example of a Christian can even cause a weaker brother to stumble (1 Corinthians 8:9).

These are all cases in which someone can be “made” or “caused” to sin through someone else’s leading, influence, and example. Likewise, because of Adam’s disobedience, “many were made sinners;” that is, through his leading, influence, and example, men voluntarily choose of their own free will to sin and to be sinners, and thus become spiritually dead and receive eternal condemnation.

[b]“ . . . so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.” [/b]

Christ makes men righteous in their standing and in their doing, so that those who are converted are accounted righteous by His blood, and those who are converted are actually righteous by following His example. Christ brings pardon of previous sins and purification of present sins, forgiveness to the past and freedom to the present.

Through Christ’s obedience in shedding His blood on a cross, we are given the possibility of being accounted righteous (forgiven) through faith. We can be forgiven (accounted righteous) by faith in His blood.

“And therefore it [faith] was imputed [accounted] to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed [accounted] to him; But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed [accounted], if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for [on behalf of] our offences, and was raised again for our justification” (Romans 4:22-25).

“Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted [imputed] to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, in thee shall all nations be blessed” (Galatians 3:6-8).

Through Christ’s obedient life we are given an example to live righteous by following Him. Christ will “lead” us “in the way of righteousness” (Proverbs 8:20). “For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you” (John 13:15). “Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps” (1 Peter 2:21). “For the grace of God that brings salvation hath appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world” (Titus 2:11-12). And we are to follow the example of brethren who are followers of Christ’s example (1 Corinthians 11:1; Philippians 3:17; 2 Thessalonians 3:9).

Being righteous is not only a standing, but is also a moral character in relation to deeds: “Obedience unto righteousness” (Romans 6:16). “Yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness” (Romans 6:19). “If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him” (1 John 2:29). “Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous” (1 John 3:7). “In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God” (1 John 3:10).

The purpose of the atonement was to cleanse sinners from all their sin, to pardon their past and to purify their present (Titus 2:14; 1 Peter 2:24). Both imputed righteousness (forgiveness) and imparted righteousness (repentance unto obedience) are by faith in Christ, and not by outward works (Acts 26:18; Romans 3:28; 1 John 3:3).

[b]ROMANS 5:20

“Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound.” [/b]

Again, the law does not originate right and wrong. Rather the law declares right and wrong. The purpose of the law was not to forgive sin, since present obedience cannot atone for past disobedience, but the purpose was to show the exceeding sinfulness of sin, to plainly and publicly declare what sin is, to point sin out.

“Was then that which is good [the law] made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful” (Romans 7:13).

“I had not known sin, but by the law . . .” (Romans 7:7).

[b]“But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound.”[/b]

The greater amount of sin there is, the greater amount of forgiveness is needed for reconciliation. How great was God’s grace when He, “who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us” (Ephesians 2:4), sent Jesus Christ, when “the whole world lies in wickedness” (1 John 5:19).

It was God’s loving grace that sent Jesus Christ to die so that all men could have the opportunity of being saved (John 3:16). It is God’s goodness that gives us the chance to repent (Romans 2:4; Revelation 2:21). But the grace of forgiveness is only given to those who repent of their sins (Luke 13:3), who repent out of love for Jesus because of what He has done for us (1 John 4:19). So grace is offered in Christ to those who are yet in their trespasses and sins (Romans 5:8), but God’s grace in Christ is only granted to those who turn from their trespasses and sins (Acts 2:38; 3:19; 8:22), to those who forsake their sins by faith (Hebrews 11:27).

The greatness of sin was shown by the law, so that the greatness of love on account of grace would be given. For how great is the love of the one who has been forgiven great trespasses, since the one forgiven much will love much (Luke 7:41-43), and as Jesus said of one women, “Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much” (Luke 7:47).

[b]ROMANS 5:21

“That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.”[/b]

Sin was the channel through which death came; now righteousness is the channel through which grace comes. The result of sin was bad, but the result of righteousness is good. Death came through sin, and now grace comes through righteousness, which is unto eternal life by Jesus Christ.

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[b]REMARKS:[/b]

[b]1.[/b] It has been proposed by certain theologians of the Augustinian tradition that the freedom of the will to choose between good and evil was somehow lost when Adam sinned, and that men are born after the fall with only the “freedom” (so called) to sin.

This would make sin a defect of the constitution rather then an abuse of the power of choice; it would make sinners mere cripples rather then criminals.

It should be noted, however, that the loss of free will was nowhere mentioned in the list of consequences and punishments for Adam’s sin (Genesis 3:14-19). In fact, God addressed Cain after the fall as one who had the power of choice (Genesis 4:6-7), and Cain inherited the same nature as his righteous brother Abel.

Many times after the fall God appeals to men to choose good over evil, and explicitly address them as those who have the power or freedom to do so (Joshua 24:15; Isaiah 1:16-20; 55:6-7; Hosea 10:12; Ezekiel 18:30-32; Jeremiah 18:11; 26:13; Act 2:40; 17:30; Romans 6:17; 1 Corinthians 7:1; 2 Timothy 2:21; James 4:2, 8-10; 1 Peter 1:22; Revelation 22:17). The freedom of the will, to choose disobedience or obedience, is a presupposition made throughout the entire Bible. So, no matter how strong the motive or temptation is, God never allows it to be above our ability, and He always makes a way of escape (1 Corinthians 10:13).

[b]2.[/b] Psalm 51:5 and Psalm 58:3 have been interpreted by the Augustinians to teach that infant children are sinful and are sinners, before they make any choices at all.

It should be noted that neither of those scriptures even mention Adam, Eve, or the fall at all. Connecting those scriptures to their doctrine of the fall is entirely prejudicial inference. They are “connecting the dots” out of bias. They also make the logical fallacy of proving a universal inheritance of original sin by pointing to universal sin, when that can be accounted for just as easily by universal temptation.

Psalm 51:5 (KJV) says that David’s mother was in sin during the time of conception, and therefore he was conceived and born in sin, as opposed to sin being in him when he was conceived and born. This is a view certain orthodox Jews hold to. It also gives us more insight into why David might have been the embarrassment of the family when Samuel came around. (1Sam 16:10-11)

Psalm 58:3 is a poetic psalm not to be taken in its literal sense, since it says that children start speaking lies from the womb. Obviously children cannot speak until some time after birth, so all this psalm is saying is that children learn to sin at an early age, and that the first sin that they commit is usually lying.

So, let it be remembered that infant children are morally innocent (2 Kings 21:16; 24:4; Joel 3:19) and have not yet “done anything” morally “good or evil” (Romans 9:11) until the age of accountability, which is the age of reason, when they know right from wrong (Deuteronomy 1:39; Isaiah 7:15-16; James 4:17), and choose to do wrong.

Men are sinners by choice and not by birth, so sinners are to be blamed and not pitied. Inward sin or indwelling sin is completely voluntary, and has to do with the voluntary condition of their inward intention or heart (Job 11:14; Matthew 23:26; Romans 6:12).

[b]3.[/b] Some have suggested that Christ was born of a virgin to avoid the reception of “original sin.” To them, sin is some abstract entity which lodges itself behind a person’s will, so that the will is necessitated to commit what they call “actual sin.” They reason that since Christ did not commit any actual sins, Christ must not have any original sin inside of Him, and that must be because He was born of a virgin.

However, scripture nowhere states that the reason of His virgin birth was to avoid inheriting original sin. This again is prejudicial conjecture, a “connecting the dots” out of bias. Rather, the bible says Christ was born of a virgin as a sign (Isaiah 7:14), and simply because God was His Father. It was not because some sort of sin stuff was hereditary, in the blood or in any other inherited part. Scripture says that Christ was made human, partook of the same flesh and blood that we have (Hebrews 2:14), and was made in all points like we are made (Hebrews 2:17), so He was tempted in all points like we are (Hebrews 2:15). Christ received the same type of body as those who use their bodies for sin, yet Christ condemned using the body for sin by not sinning (Romans 8:3). There is nothing sinful in and of itself in the human body, it is simply an “instrument” that can be used by free will (yielded) as an “instrument of righteousness” or as an “instrument of unrighteousness” (Rom 6:13).

What do you guys think of this commentary?

Is this a possible interpretation? Is it logical, reasonable, and scriptural?

Is Romans 5 talking about spiritual death, since the context makes many references to death reigning over men because of their particular sin?

How did Adam make many sinners? Was it by his leading, influence, and example, the same way others in the bible "made" other people sin?

"Men are condemned for their own personal sins (1 Corinthians 6:9; Revelation 21:8), and reconciliation requires a personal choice (2 Corinthians 5:20)."


Yes, as long as you are not speaking of Christians here:
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


"Men are sinners by choice and not by birth, so sinners are to be blamed and not pitied."



We love the sinner and hate the sin. The unsaved cannot save themselves and they cannot change or turn from thier sin until they turn to Jesus. Only by turning to Jesus and putting their faith and trust in Him can they turn from thier sin. The cross needs to be preached to the lost:

1 Corinthians 2:2
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by [u]one man[/u] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

If we view sin in this passage with a small 's' (as an act) then we have to deal with a real contradiction. The first [i]act[/i] of sin in the earth was committed by Satan when he lied to Eve and set a trap for her to sin. So if we are talking about sins (in deeds) then sins entered the world through Satan; he was the first to introduce the earth to transgressing.

If we view Sin here as being a dynamic (the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience- governed by the law of sin) then it is clear that Adam opened 'the door' and Sin entered our race- death following. He was cast from the Garden lest he eat of the Tree of Life and live forever as an unregenerate fallen sinner. He sold himself and the human race into slavery to Sin itself. This slavery is broken off at death. At physical death all contracts are broken off; covenants are ended and will and testaments are brought into force.

(Romans 6:4-10) Therefore we [u]are[/u] buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so [u]we also should walk in newness of life.[/u]

Based upon this passage it is evident that Paul intends an experience in the here and now and not at the resurrection only. We are buried, raised up, and walking in newness. This is one of the purposes of Christ's death upon the Cross. He died to Sin and for those that have been baptized into Him- they share in what He has done. "IN Him" we are new creatures and "IN Him" we are dead to Sin. This is Sin as a slavemaster.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Jesus came forth in great power from the grave. Likewise, when we are baptized into Jesus Christ by the Spirit we can walk in the newness of life. This is far more than mere repentance. Repentance is the first principal of the doctrine of Christ- what I am referring to is [i]perfection[/i]; genuine Holy Ghost regeneration that transforms a person into a new creature. They have more than the spirit of bondage that leads folk to fear death (i.e. the consequence of sinning); but have received the Spirit of Adoption whereby we cry ABBA Father. This is the difference between a servant and a son.

God wants to bring many sons unto glory. To do this He has to give them the Spirit of Adoption so that they serve God from their new Christ like nature rather than out of fear. The servants do not abide in the house forever, but the sons do. God wants sons that do His will from the heart; as natural as a fish breathes under water. Thorn trees must be regenerated into fruit trees. This requires more than a change of mind and direction- it requires a change in the nature of the tree.



Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.


We also have to deal with the contradiction of "in the day that you eat of the tree- dying you will die." This is ultimate death- the very worst kind of death. Adam did [i]not[/i] physically die on that day either. Adam died spiritually that day. Death is separation. Adam died later physically. Adam fell from the glory and image of God.

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If Romans 5 is not talking about spiritual death coming upon those who choose to sin, then these verses don't really make any sense:

ROMANS 5:12:

“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin . . .”

“. . . and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”

ROMANS 5:13

“(For until the law sin was in the world . . . ”


“ . . . but sin is not imputed when there is no law.”


ROMANS 5:14

“Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses . . . ”

“ . . . even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.”

This is what I mean. Saying things like:

"death passed upon all men, [i]for all have sinned[/i]"

“Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses [i]even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression[/i]"

Makes it seem that this death is passed upon those who choose to sin, and that it passes even upon those who don't sin the same way Adam sinned.

[b]The former[/b] quotation makes it clear that the death comes upon them for their own sin.

[b]The latter[/b] quotation makes it clear that there is a distinction between their sin and Adams sin.

It is clear that the type of death spoken of here comes upon men for their own personal sin (vs. 12). And their sin is distinct and different from the sin of Adam (vs. 14).

But if it is not talking about spiritual death coming upon those who choose to sin, verses 12-14 really don't make any sense. And if we don't properly understand verses 12-14, we will end up with a faulty interpretation of the preceding passages.

It is interesting to note that in verse 12, the word for "death" is "thanatos", and is used as a noun. Thus describing "death" as a thing. The verb "passed" is in the 3rd person(meaning it is speaking of the object, which is death), and is in the aorist, active, meaning that the event happened and continues to happen to this present moment.

So we could say that death has passed through, and continues to pass through all men, because all men have sinned, and continue to sin(the verb for sin is in the same tense, and person).

But when we move to verse 15, where it says that many are dead, Paul uses the word "apothnesko" which is a verb, and it is in the same tense as before, meaning that through the offense of one man many are dead, and continue to die even to this present day.

I am no Greek wiz by any means, but if we are going to tread into the "what ifs", and "maybes", we had better be prepared to see what is really being said.

Now as for the death passing upon men that had not committed the same sin as Adam, we see this in Cain. Who taught Cain to murder? Did he need to learn how to, or was it sin within him that simply poured out as vengeance?

Also Jesse, if you are going to say that infants are born innocent, then you need to explain why they suffer from the wages of sin.

Infants die, suffer pain, and illness which are all symptoms of the fall of man, which points to th fact that they are not innocent. If they were innocent, and still died and suffered, then we could say that God was unjust in His ways, as He would be imputing guilt and its consequences where there was no sin.

Children do not need to be taught how to sin, it is within them. The idea that a child is a victim of his or her surroundings, and learns sin from the examples set before them is nothing more than the modern day psychological view that society makes a man a criminal, or that the outward influences in a persons' life cause them to be "bad", but if we remove those influences, they will be "good".

Finney, and the Arminian revivalists who cast out original sin have(unfortunately) helped shape much of today's thinking both Church-wise, and society.

After all if a man is born "good", then all he needs is instruction in how to stay "good", and thus he can live by the law,because the law says , "do this and thou shalt live."

But even here, one would see that the majority of the "commands" that are propped up to support man's ability are subjunctive in nature ans state a possibility, but not an actuality.

It is the same if I tell you that if you were to flap your arms and fly west, you could get to California. It is true, but you are not able, and thus it is a statement and not a command that implies ability.

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patrick heaviside