Bndslave: "I do NOT speak against obedience to the Lord and His commands at all"I am very happy to see that!
wildbranch wrote:LittleGift said--------quote: "I'm really puzzled why you seem to misunderstand so much of what has been said."LittleGift, I am puzzled how such strong statements against the Ten Commandments can be supported. I have shown how they contradict the words of Yeshua himself and many other scriptures. No one is saying that one has to keep the commandments to obtain salvation (that has been clearly stated), but after obtaining the salvation freeely given by Yeshua, the keeping of the commandments is what we WANT to do. And we will not "fall from grace" etc if we do.And that is why I agree with Bndslaves comment,quote: "----------"Once we are truly changed on the INSIDE, there will be NO CONFLICT with our desires and the will of God; they will be the same. (obviously that means our desires will have COMPLETELY CHANGED, for God changes not". We will automatically desire to fulfill all His commandments because of our change of heart, and we would not reject His commandments. In fact, 'the dragon' is seeking those who would obey His commandments in the book of Revelation, showing that that is the desire of the Evil one, to get us to reject and abolish the Father's Commandments!Hope that helps!
wildbranch wrote:No one is saying that one has to keep the commandments to obtain salvation (that has been clearly stated)
but after obtaining the salvation freeely given by Yeshua, the keeping of the commandments is what we WANT to do. And we will not "fall from grace" etc if we do.
LittleGift said---"Hopefully we all do basically agree after all?'Yes! hopefully.As Psalm 119:32 says "I will run in the way of Thy commandments, when thou enlargest my understanding".I love that verse, because after coming to Yeshua for salvation, and after a few years of seeking the way to live, I believe that I was rewarded with the Holy Spirit who has given me the power to 'run in His ways, as He has enlarged my understanding'. HalleluYah!Peace and loveSharon :-)