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| Resurrection: A Living Personal Reality by T. Austin-Sparks | | This spoke so much to me just now, perhaps it is the situation i am in, it may very well be so. But one thing i have notices the last days, I have been here on SI about two years all in all, I listend to many preachers, read a ton of articles, participated in the forum. And i start giving more time to one preacher. T.A Sparks.... And i relize i only scratched the surface of what is here....
Anyway, this was a word from the Lord to my heart today, i trust it will be to you also.
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Resurrection: A Living Personal Reality
by T. Austin-Sparks
Transcribed from a message given by T. Austin-Sparks in 1959. The spoken form has been retained verbatim. Words which were not clearly discernible have been enclosed in [square] brackets.
Reading: 2 Kings 6:1-33
In the second book of the Kings, chapter six: And the sons of the prophets said unto Elisha, Behold now, the place where we dwell before thee is too strait for us. Let us go, we pray thee, unto Jordan and take thence every man a beam and let us make us a place there, where we may dwell. And he answered, Go ye. And one said, Be content, I pray thee, and go with thy servants. And he answered, I will go. So he went with them. When they came to the Jordan, they cut down wood. But as one was felling a beam, the axe head fell into the water and he cried and said, Alas, my master! for it was borrowed. The man of God said, Where fell it? And he shewed him the place. And he cut down a stick and cast it in thither; and the iron did swim. He said, Take it up to thee. So he put out his hand, and took it.
I confess that I used to wonder why that story was included in the number which we have of these acts of Elisha; very interesting and of course quite wonderful, but what is its lesson? What has it to say? And in thinking about it, several things have become quite clear to me and I would like to pass on just one or two of them this morning.
Of course this, with all these other things that are recorded about the acts of Elisha, this, with them, is included in the great beginning of his life. You recall that as his master Elijah was about to be taken up into heaven, he asked Elisha what he might give him. Elisha said, "A double portion of thy spirit". More literally: the portion of the first-born. Elijah said, "You have asked a hard thing, nevertheless if you see me when I am taken up, it shall be." And as they passed through the Jordan, onto the other side, the chariots of the Lord appeared and caught up Elijah. Elisha cried, "My father, my father, the chariots of Israel and the horsemen thereof!" The mantle fell from Elijah and Elisha took it up.
The sons of the prophets, who come into view at that point and are mentioned so many times in this book, find the spirit of Elijah does rest upon Elisha and they bow themselves to the ground. Now that is where it all begins, for these various, shall we call them stories - they are more than stories, works of power - were the expression and outcome of that mighty anointing with the Spirit; that portion of the first-born. So that what we have here in every one, and in this one of which we are thinking this morning, is the real work of the anointing. That is, the Holy Spirit operating in the power of resurrection. Every incident, as you notice, theres that stamp in some way or another, in some form or another: it is the mighty working of resurrection power by the anointing, by the Holy Spirit.
It would be easy, and we have done it before, we will not take the time to repeat this morning; to show how this is but a foreshadowing of the ascension or receiving up of the Lord Jesus whereupon the Holy Spirit descended upon the Church. The mantle of the firstborn, the portion of the firstborn, fell upon the Church. We want to know what the portion of the firstborn is. It is just this: the power of His resurrection. Seeing that, let us come to this story.
The sons of the prophets, again in view, and note what they represent: they represent the generation succeeding, following on, to carry forward the prophetic testimony, the next generation, the sons of the prophets. The heart of this whole thing, where they appear again and again in relation to these mighty acts of the Spirit through Elisha, the heart of the whole thing is this: that these called sons of the prophets who were in the schools of the prophets being educated and trained to carry on the work of the prophets, to fulfil their ministry in the next generation, were not just academic students. They were being, by these various ways, brought into the closest touch with reality. And you will at once see how true that was in the case of this man and his axe-head. For these sons of the prophets expressed quite a legitimate ambition or desire when they said the place where we dwell is too strait for us and said let us have enlargement; perfectly legitimate ambition or desire, a right thing, nothing wrong with that at all. To desire to escape limitation and straitness and to enlarge and to expand for the work of the Lord; thats quite a good thing and quite a right thing. And so Elisha raised no objection, put no difficulty in the way, but encouraged. And when some of them said to him, "Look here, were not just going on with this without you, were not discarding the old generation, you come with us, we need you" he said, I come. There was a towardness in this whole matter, and quite rightly so. But even so, with a perfectly legitimate desire and ambition, a right quest in which there is no objection at all; the thing has got to be kept very close to life. And thats what this story is about.
Amongst the various lessons that it teaches, there are just two that I will point out this morning. But in our going on, or our desire to go on, our quest for enlargement and increase and escape from anything that is small, narrow, straitened, limited... all that is employed in the work of the Lord must be first-hand. It cannot be done with BORROWED tools. And there are many ways in which the testimony can be second-hand. It may be children brought up in it in their home. I wonder if I might refer to such an occasion in our own midst several years ago. When our brother Patterson was taken so suddenly to the Lord, his son John, who was with us at the conference time recently, passed into a very difficult phase and he came to see me. He said "Im having a very difficult time. I have discovered that I have been living on my fathers testimony. I have just taken what he said, followed him, thinking that I was on the same ground as he. Ive discovered that it was his, and not mine and I have got to find it all for myself right from the beginning. It was a difficult passage. He came through of course, hes on his own ground. It was a borrowed axe.
We may get it from our meetings; teaching that we have received over years. Weve got it in our hand, we think, and then we imagine that we are going to use it in some way and it's going to be a serviceable thing and then something happens: we find it doesnt work, the head comes off. It just comes off and lets us down. This is not ours, alas, it was a borrowed one. It wasnt ours, it was someone elses. It was the fellowships, the meetings, or the teachers. In various other ways it can be something borrowed, from the study and the library and the bookshelves, the commentaries and the translations and all the authorities, the godly men whove written it. Weve got it, we think, and it doesnt work. The head comes off, alas, for it was borrowed.
Now, the Lord allows these incidents - if you like: these accidents, theyre no accidents at all - these things to happen where the whole thing seems to let us down, doesnt seem as though its working. He does that. A crisis arises, such as arose with this man and his axe, in order that the thing should pass through death onto resurrection ground and become ours in the power of resurrection. When the whole head has come off and we are left just [with a handle], with a shaft in our hand which wont hue down any trees at all, wont accomplish anything, left like that standing... its a painful hour, a painful time. We feel that perhaps weve been on the wrong road, that weve been in some kind of illusion. Well, maybe, but the Lord is very faithful, the Lord is very faithful. And such experiences may seem to be like disaster and we cry alas, alas. Those experiences are in the very faithfulness of God to bring that thing onto new ground where its ours by a miracle of God. Its ours because the power of His resurrection has come in and when that has come in, it's no longer a borrowed one, its yours. Im quite sure youve seen more than is necessary for me to say.
No, dear friends, the very faithfulness of God necessitates on the one side the loss of the axe-head sometimes to leave us standing crying "Alas!". All our power to do things is flown, its gone, were stranded. On the other side there is always the positive purpose of God in such experiences, that we shall know this portion of the firstborn. You get the firstborn portion, you know, if you'd like to go back to the book of Deuteronomy youll see what that is and where that arose. The portion of the firstborn is something which secures the inheritance to the individual concerned. It is not something bought, paid for, earned, but a gift of grace. The portion of the firstborn. It is knowing the anointing in truth. We will all agree, every one of us here this morning will agree at least with the theory, with the statement, that we dont want borrowed experiences or teaching, second-hand addresses, studied up things; we want people who KNOW and can speak out of a deep experience. They have been through the depth of Jordan, they have BEEN into death and have come onto resurrection ground. They know it by the bitterness on the one side of loss, failure, disappointment; on the other side the wonderful strength of this miracle of resurrection life. We want sons of the prophets who are in the GOOD of the anointing, not just students of it. Well, thats the first lesson, simple it is, but it explains a lot I think, of the Lords ways with us, that everything has got to be established upon the ground of a living personal experience and not be somebody elses, but our own.
The other thing which goes with it, of course, quite clearly is that in this that happened, this miracle of resurrection, it was a complete and perfect reversal of the natural order. It is the nature of a piece of iron to sink. That is nature. It will sink. For a piece of iron, a lump of iron, an axe-head to float, is contrary to nature. I only need hint at things, you see much more than I need say. Dear friends, by nature we are all bits of iron. Let me put that another way: by nature we are of the sinking kind. We know that. It wants very little to push us under, to put us down; its in us. And especially when there is some spiritual demand on hand, for here was the whole matter of enlargement, expansion and increase in the work of the Lord, and I wonder if you have noticed that whenever something more of the Lord is in view, how quickly we get down, we get pressed under. I have noticed that it happens, it just happens with something of the Lord just coming on, youll find people under things, theyve gone down, theyve been caught in some way and theyve sunk. We have to really gird ourselves for anything that the Lord is going to do, it just doesnt happen. Well, were made like that, naturally were of the sinking kind.
Perhaps you may think that youre a very buoyant person. I venture to suggest that the most buoyant person in this place this morning, with the most buoyant and optimistic natural makeup, coming right up against the forces that are set against the things that are of God, will find that they need more than natural buoyancy. We are not going to swim, to float, to stay on top, without something more than our own strength of nature, our own constitution. And the wonder of the anointing, lets say it quickly and close, the wonder of the anointing, the wonder of the Holy Spirit, the wonder of the portion of the firstborn is this: that although we are so sinkable, we are such sinkable stuff, naturally it is decline, it is to drop down under pressure, under trial, but the marvel is that you and I are afloat today. It is a marvelous thing that we are afloat today! Many of you know that, perhaps you think that youve sunk many times, but youre afloat today! Your heart may be sinking today you think, but youre not drowned yet, youre not at the bottom yet, youre not lost for good yet, weve all been there many times, we can say with the Psalmist Though I fall, yet shall I rise, though I fall, yet shall I rise. There is some extra factor in the child of God and in the servant of God called according to His purpose, that causes us to survive a thousand drownings: the power of His resurrection. Its a wonderful thing and this simple little story just says to us that if the Holy Spirit is in us, there is a reversal of the way of nature; nature declines, nature goes down, nature sinks, but here the Spirit is always reversing that and causing us to rise, to rise, to go on again and again. Its like that, there is something that is different from nature in us, it's the divine nature: the power of His resurrection.
So, for the moment, the simple message is we must be on TRUE ground. Everything must be true and real; not borrowed and second-hand. We can do nothing really effective with tools that are not a part of our own being, wrought into our own experience, but of which we can say "Now, this truly is mine, Ive been through death with this. This has brought me into life! This is mine, this is mine, not something that Ive heard, not something that Ive got from someone else. I have this because Ive gone through it with God on this matter." It must be like that to carry the testimony on, the prophetic testimony. And then this great assurance, this wonderful assurance: we have the Holy Spirit. If we are the Lords, we have the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelling in us and that is something not only more than nature, but contrary to nature. And although oftimes we may feel were going to the bottom, we may feel we have touched bottom, were going to come up again if that Spirit is in us. The Holy Spirit is not going to die in the grave; if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead be in YOU, He that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall quicken your mortal body by His Spirit dwelling in you, your body of death quickened; the power of His resurrection. And the iron... the iron did swim. _________________ CHRISTIAN
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| 2007/9/10 16:40 | Profile | Tears_of_joy Member
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| Re: Resurrection: A Living Personal Reality by T. Austin-Sparks | | Quote:
hmmhmm wrote: And i relize i only scratched the surface of what is here....
I feel the same brother!
Oh what encouragement this sermon was. I think it shouldn't be neglected and taken lightly, but heard from many as possible. |
| 2007/9/11 5:08 | Profile | hmmhmm Member
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Oh what encouragement this sermon was. I think it shouldn't be neglected and taken lightly, but heard from many as possible.
AMEN! _________________ CHRISTIAN
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| 2007/9/13 0:08 | Profile | hmmhmm Member
Joined: 2006/1/31 Posts: 4994 Sweden
| Re: Resurrection: A Living Personal Reality by T. Austin-Sparks | | Quote:
hmmhmm wrote: Amongst the various lessons that it teaches, there are just two that I will point out this morning. But in our going on, or our desire to go on, our quest for enlargement and increase and escape from anything that is small, narrow, straitened, limited... all that is employed in the work of the Lord must be first-hand. It cannot be done with BORROWED tools. And there are many ways in which the testimony can be second-hand. It may be children brought up in it in their home. I wonder if I might refer to such an occasion in our own midst several years ago. When our brother Patterson was taken so suddenly to the Lord, his son John, who was with us at the conference time recently, passed into a very difficult phase and he came to see me. He said "Im having a very difficult time. I have discovered that I have been living on my fathers testimony. I have just taken what he said, followed him, thinking that I was on the same ground as he. Ive discovered that it was his, and not mine and I have got to find it all for myself right from the beginning. It was a difficult passage. He came through of course, hes on his own ground. It was a borrowed axe.
We may get it from our meetings; teaching that we have received over years. Weve got it in our hand, we think, and then we imagine that we are going to use it in some way and it's going to be a serviceable thing and then something happens: we find it doesnt work, the head comes off. It just comes off and lets us down. This is not ours, alas, it was a borrowed one. It wasnt ours, it was someone elses. It was the fellowships, the meetings, or the teachers. In various other ways it can be something borrowed, from the study and the library and the bookshelves, the commentaries and the translations and all the authorities, the godly men whove written it. Weve got it, we think, and it doesnt work. The head comes off, alas, for it was borrowed.
This makes me think how much of the things we speak about are borrowed? how much of my failures is due to i tried to use someone elses experience, someone elses axe?
I think of this verse that i listend to another sermon by Sparks, he spoke about this verse
Romans 11:33 ¶ [b]O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out![/b]
how deep have I come, how deep is my christianity? is it [i]real[/i] or is it borrowed?
[i] The mark of a life governed by the Holy Spirit is that such a life is continually and ever more and more occupied with Christ, that Christ is becoming greater and greater as time goes on. The effect of the Holy Spirit's work in us is to bring us to the shore of a mighty ocean which reaches far, far beyond our range, and concerning which we feelOh, the depths, the fullness, of Christ! If we live as long as ever man lived, we shall still be only on the fringe of this vast fullness that Christ is.[/i]
I dont know what to say about this....
But here are some more
[i] My aim, in co-operation with the Lord, is to make everything pre-eminently practical; and so we apply the challenge immediately, and I ask you, Is the Holy Spirit within you presenting God's fullness in His Son in an ever-growing way? Is that the nature of your spiritual life? If not, then you must have some definite exercise before the Lord about it; there is something wrong.[/i]
ohh the depths... _________________ CHRISTIAN
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| 2007/9/13 5:39 | Profile | hmmhmm Member
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| Re: Resurrection: A Living Personal Reality by T. Austin-Sparks | | Has anyone else listened to this or read it? I just feel this has blessed me so much i wanted to bump it to make more people get a chance to be blessed..... _________________ CHRISTIAN
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| 2007/9/15 16:32 | Profile | crsschk Member
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| Re: Resurrection: A Living Personal Reality by T. Austin-Sparks | | Actually yes, brother. What I didn't realize was how much this has been weaved in almost subconsciously amongst other ... food source intake.
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Its a wonderful thing and this simple little story just says to us that if the Holy Spirit is in us, there is a reversal of the way of nature; nature declines, nature goes down, nature sinks, but here the Spirit is always reversing that and causing us to rise, to rise, to go on again and again. Its like that, there is something that is different from nature in us, it's the divine nature: the power of His resurrection.
Brother, tonight I am just bowled over by so many tremendous things that are present here, in this place. Even after all these years, it is just a marvel. _________________ Mike Balog
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| 2007/9/15 23:46 | Profile | hmmhmm Member
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crsschk wrote:
Brother, tonight I am just bowled over by so many tremendous things that are present here, in this place. Even after all these years, it is just a marvel.
I feel the same, I said to Bro Kire in another thread also by T.A Sparks, I feel like I have just scraped the surface on what riches is here at SI, I listened to many preachers, sermons....read many articles.... and then I focus on T.A Sparks and a whole new world appears...
Amazing....
or as he would say [i]"Ohh the riches and the depths!"[/i] _________________ CHRISTIAN
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| 2007/9/17 0:55 | Profile | HopeinChrist Member
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Hope, dear sister, thanks for bumping this.
I read it with wonder, not so much at the content which was familiar in principle, but at the gift to take the word of God and expound it lovingly in a way which draws us on to faith itself.
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We want sons of the prophets who are in the GOOD of the anointing, not just students of it. Well, thats the first lesson, simple it is, but it explains a lot I think, of the Lords ways with us, that everything has got to be established upon the ground of a living personal experience and not be somebody elses, but our own.
Of course, 'sons of the prophets' is Old Testament language, in that we know under the New Testament, through faith we become sons of God Himself.
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And although oftimes we may feel were going to the bottom, we may feel we have touched bottom, were going to come up again if that Spirit is in us. The Holy Spirit is not going to die in the grave; [b]if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead be in YOU[/b], He that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall quicken your mortal body by His Spirit dwelling in you, your body of death quickened; the power of His resurrection.
Revelation 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of [u]the testimony of Jesus Christ[/u], and of all things that he saw.
Revelation 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for [u]the testimony of Jesus Christ[/u].
Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have [u]the testimony of Jesus Christ[/u].
Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, 'See [i]thou do it[/i] not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: [b]for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy[/b]'.
John 10:17, 18 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. [u]This commandment[/u] have I received of my Father.
Psalms 133:3, As the dew of Hermon, [i]and as the dew[/i] that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there [u]the LORD commanded the blessing[/u], [i]even[/i] [u]life for evermore[/u].
Luke 24 23 And when they found not his body, they came, saying, that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive. 24 And certain of them which were with us went to the sepulchre, and found [i]it[/i] even so as the women had said: but him they saw not. 25 Then he said unto them, [u]O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the [b]prophets[/b] have spoken[/u]: 26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, [u]and to enter into his glory?[/u] 27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them [u]in all the scriptures the things concerning himself[/u].
Psalms 133:1, 2 Behold, how good and how pleasant for brethren to dwell together in unity! [i]It is[/i] like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard,[i]even[/i] Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth [u]in[/u] you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of [u]all things, and is truth[/u], and is no lie, and even [u]as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him[/u].
I'm asking myself...:
what is 'the anointing' teaching me [i]today?[/i]
am I being teachable...?
what am I [i]learning[/i] from the Holy Spirit?
1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [i]we be[/i] Jews or Gentiles, whether [i]we be[/i] bond or free; and [u]have been all made to drink into one Spirit[/u].
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| 2008/3/24 8:02 | | HopeinChrist Member
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| Re: Resurrection: A Living Personal Reality by T. Austin-Sparks | | Quote:
Hope, dear sister, thanks for bumping this.
You're welcome, it so blessed me and made the power of His resurrection real, relevant and personal to me. I wanted everyone to have the opportunity to be edified by this...as you so well stated "in a way which draws us on to faith itself." Quote:
if the Holy Spirit is in us, there is a reversal of the way of nature; nature declines, nature goes down, nature sinks, but here the Spirit is always reversing that and causing us to rise, to rise, to go on again and again. Its like that, there is something that is different from nature in us, it's the divine nature: the power of His resurrection.
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If we are the Lords, we have the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwelling in us and that is something not only more than nature, but contrary to nature. And although oftimes we may feel were going to the bottom, we may feel we have touched bottom, were going to come up again if that Spirit is in us. The Holy Spirit is not going to die in the grave; if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead be in YOU, He that raised up Christ Jesus from the dead shall quicken your mortal body by His Spirit dwelling in you, your body of death quickened; the power of His resurrection
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