And I got to tell you Krispy, how you managed to get so great a thread and response from this title (KJV - yes, thats the version for me!)... All of you here, just wonderful, have me reminiscing
Anyways, about the KJV. Half a year ago someone posted that legendary thread, "Call me KJV Only if..." It had a profound influence on me. (does someone know where it is?) After much study I concluded that, as best as I can see, (and not wanting to injure anyone here) the Textus Receptus is the purest of sources and was providentially preserved.
Jeannette... I'm not against people discussing politics. Heck, I listen to Glenn Beck most days. I'm just saying that getting into "party politics" is not what this forum is about. No doubt there will be some discussion of government over the next year as we head toward another election... oh boy. I just pray we all keep our heads about us.I noticed that beginning sometime soon XM Radio is going to have a channel that is dedicated to nothing but election coverage. I can feel a migrain coming on just thinking about it. Who would want to listen to that 24/7 ??When I was younger I was gung-ho politics. I saw Ronald Reagan when he was campaigning in 1984. I was a senoir in high school that fall. (Class of '85) Got to see him give a speech in person. Our school took us all to the campaign stop as a field trip.I used to love to argue politics, and Bill Clinton certainly gave us plenty to argue about.But now that I'm older (I'll be 40 next month)... I'm finding that altho I have strong political views, in the long run what does it matter? The most important thing is that we tell people about Jesus.Krispy
ccchhhrrriiisss, do you own a NIV-Greek interlinear? Go through some of Paul's letters. You don't have to know very much Greek to see that there are instances where the same Greek word is used over and over in the same section of the letter but translated several different ways. For instance, in Colossians, the Greek word for "all" is used pretty ubiquitously, and yet the translators turned it into "all", "many", "most", "some", etc. From my basic understanding of Greek, and having read much research on translations, common Greek is very straightforward and clear, making it much more easy to translate than what the NIV defenders make it out to be. Sure, there are spots in the NIV that are better representations than other versions, but in general, the translators took WAY too much liberty for me to be comfortable trusting it. They have given us an interpretation, not a translation.Just my 2 cents 8-)
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Krispy wroteWhen I was younger I was gung-ho politics. I saw Ronald Reagan when he was campaigning in 1984. I was a senoir in high school that fall. (Class of '85) Got to see him give a speech in person. Our school took us all to the campaign stop as a field trip.moe_mac wrote:I too have discussed politics much in my life, not as much now though, as in the past. I will not name any party I supported then or support now. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out. It is really not about a party, but what the candidate and platform dictates and believes and how they line up with what "thus saith the Lord". I too was gung ho from youth as a political spectator, only not being envolved, just talking about what I believed a candidate needed to be. Back then, I must admit, that I believed all the devil's lies. Did God really say??? I was all for anything goes in anything. If the president had a gala and got drunk and was hugging on Barbara Striesand, man that was cool. I thought a man had rights, and if he wanted to get drunk, have four wives at a time, and if one got pregnant then get her an abortion, nobodies business but his. I thought all the things that God hates was in the bill of rights and some are now. I was all for anything goes. I was for, what can the government could do for me and mine and others worldly causes and to putting more money in my pocket, that was the priority. My spill was, don't worry about those poor people over there in those other countries, whether they are starving, oppressed by a dictator, or anything else, let them take care of themselves. Even though I joined the military at age 17, I thought, we did not need a military and I only joined because I was tired of my MOM and Dad's authority and wanted to have a life with no authority. huuuh!!! The first day of bootcamp I realized how stupid I really was. I did care what kind of character a candidate had, as long as he was cool and charm the women. When God changed my heart, through Christ, my opinions about these things changed totally reversed. I am in agreement that SI is not the place to campaign for your favorite candidate, but SI should be a place where we will discuss spiritual issues, character, and about a man having a Godly devotion to a Holy God and country and that we all should desire to see those qualities in anyone, especially someone who will lead us. As I said earlier, if there is one thing I don't want to be wrong about, I refuse to support in anyway a man or women that has the attitude of "what has God and his word got to do with anything. That what's I understand about life and christianity when I study my KJV bible.
It seems like the more recent the translation the worse they get until you end up with things like "The Message" that are so buchered that I can't with a clear conscience call it the word of God. Shameful.
i've got an old KJV Bible i've had for 25+ years which i love dearly ... It's marked, noted, dated, hi-lighted, cross-referenced, and anything else one could do in a Bible while studying it ... It's a witness and testimony too as when sitting in service and someone glances it's open pages and says to me, "Wow, you must really know your Bible"! ... it's my sword and i love it so much i had it re-bound a couple of years ago, and it's still going strong ... Even my dagger (my smaller NT only-for witnessing) is KJV ... In case of a fire and i could only save one thing it would be my wonderful old Ryrie KJV ... It's the only thing amongst my earthly possesions i deem irreplaceable ... :-D PS - i like the Young's Literal Translation a lot too!
I would not want to be the translators or publisher when it comes time to give an account before the throne.