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Many times simply following the flow of a chapter from verse to verse can undo many preconceived ideas about a pet text, and help you get to what is "really" being said.

So true. I like what Spurgeon said concerning why he is a Calvinist.

"I am not a Calvinist by choice, but because I cannot help it."

"I believe nothing merely because Calvin taught it, but because I have found his teaching in the Word of God."

"I believe that very much of current Arminianism is simply ignorance of gospel
doctrine; and if people began to study their Bibles, and to take the Word of God as
they find it, they must inevitably, if believers, rise up to rejoice in the doctrines of

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 2007/9/18 19:30

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Brother Abe wrote:

(Let us refer to this verse in light of the flow and context of the chapter as a whole)

Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

Romans 9 teaches about the individual and the nation...

Paul wrote as the summary of Israel's fall in Romans 9:

31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; 33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

So we see that those who resisted the will of God, are those who "sought it not by faith." We know from the testimony of Scripture that most of the nation Israel stumbled because they chose not to live by faith. But we are also given the testimony in Scripture that in each generation there are those who do live by faith. The generations of the remnant goes unbroken...

The OT is full of Scriptures which teach about living by faith. And we know that ALL Scripture is the word of God. So then is Romans 9 really about God condemning those who do not live by faith?

In Christ

Jeff Marshalek

 2007/9/19 0:43Profile


Any thoughts on White's reasoning?(for those who hae taken the time to listen to it)

 2007/9/21 23:24

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