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Anyone who does not see the church being persecuted in the present age you just got back from another planet with some of our national leaders who were along with you on the trip. But there is good news. God is faithful. He who began a good work in you will be able to accomplish it. Phil 1:6

Ex 1:11-12
11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.
12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel.

Notice the more they afflicted God's people the more God’s people multiplied and grew.
They also didn't stop Peter, John, Paul, James, and the other disciples. Even though they tried to stop and silence and prevent the power of God and HIS people from being what he called them to be, the power of God prevailed. The more they persecuted the more HIS message spread.
God's Word is still proclaimed today by those who do not want to turn it into a modern day culture gospel. 2 peter 3:16

God help if we pervert it. Gal 1:7

We must defend and confirm the Gospel. Phil 1:7

We must be trustworthy with the gospel.
1 Thess 2:4

So just as always, you can’t stop HIS WORD from going forth and accomplishing that which God sent it to do. Isaiah 55:11

Some may try to censor HIS WORD and change it fit the culture but all they are going to do is cause God’s people to grow and multiply.

Notice I said God’s people. Which side are you taking? Are you standing up against the persecution and going with the flow and the culture?

Luke 11:23
23 "He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me, scatters.

What Joseph's brothers meant for evil God turned into good. Gen 44:4

Gal 6:9-10
9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

 2007/7/19 12:17

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Well said... Persecution will increase in all nations:

Things will get so bad that some government officials will not take responsibility for their actions, but find a scapegoat. At first hardships will be blamed on conservatives, but that will develop into blaming Christians for society’s ills. Christians will be portrayed as the ones who caused the economic problems, are blocking the solutions, and standing in the way of progress. As history reveals, at first it will be sporadic, but over time gain momentum, until it becomes part of the culture when the average person believes it.”

Don’t be afraid, but be watchful. When you saw the NY Times portray the Norwegian mass murderer as a “Christian”, that’s one part. When you hear of Senator John Kerry and others call the downgrade of the US by Standard & Poors the “Tea Party downgrade,” that’s part of the spirit of Antichrist at work.

Satan takes advantage of the things of man, and since the world is facing economic crisis, that spirit will have room to work across borders and cultures for years to come, beyond the 4-5 years of economic issues.

 2011/8/26 11:51Profile

 Re: SI talking about persecution???????

Am I on the right web site???? A thread talking about persecution in America.. Surely this cannot be Sermon Index. I thought the persecuted were a taboo topic in this forum.


 2011/8/26 14:17

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"Am I on the right web site???? A thread talking about persecution in America.. Surely this cannot be Sermon Index. I thought the persecuted were a taboo topic in this forum."

Stop being so smug. Your posts read so though you think yourself the only person who cares, weeps, and prays for the persecuted church. The rest of us don't feel the need to be so public about it.

Now get off the internet and go in silence to the prayer closet.

 2011/8/26 16:10Profile

 Re: A Troll

Satan get thee behind me in Jesus name. For the scrpture says that the God if all peace will crush you under my feet.

 2011/8/26 17:32

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Posts: 7497


fartyr wrote:

"Stop being so smug. Your posts read so though you think yourself the only person who cares, weeps, and prays for the persecuted church. The rest of us don't feel the need to be so public about it.

Now get off the internet and go in silence to the prayer closet."

fartyr, this is not all that edifying, is it?

Blaine's passion is for the persecuted church and it is good to be reminded of it because we may find ourselves in the not-so-distant future on the other end of the gun barrel because of our faith.

fartyr, one thing I have noticed on this forum is that everyone seems to specialize in certain topics. No one person is interested in all that are being discussed but will be very passionate in what is dear to their own heart. And this is the way a brotherhood operates: we are all gifted and not all have the same gifts.


Sandra Miller

 2011/8/26 18:47Profile


anonymous, concerning sin there are sins that are more serious than others in the eyes of God and man. Sexual sin and in particular homosexual sin is an abomination to the Lord

My point here is that it's not as cut and dry about your pharisee example you gave.

 2011/8/26 21:32

Joined: 2009/12/4
Posts: 1860


Just thought I would point out that this thread was started in 2007 can so much strife be stirred on such an old thread? Are the things of the Article what has happened today four years later? Come now brothers and sisters we are all sinners who need a saviour. Its pretty easy to start an account on here and critize those you haven't really interacted with. It would be like a man walking into your house you don't know and him complaining about how you run your house. We must show some grace to one another if we are going to make it through this persecution that IS coming.

And "'Fart'yr" it is surely a lot of work you went to, to simply mock one of our brothers in Christ on a public forum, very mature of you to use 2nd grade antics with a 2nd grade joke. I pray the Lord soften your heart and save it.

Matthew Guldner

 2011/8/27 3:01Profile

Joined: 2004/4/27
Posts: 431
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What is all this concern about homosexuality?

Why not pick on the heterosexual swingers, or teens who get off on porno?

Did Jesus really appoint us to be the moral police of the world?

Was the Great Commission that Jesus gave us require us to go out and tell the world which sins are abomination to the Lord and that Jesus wants them to stop committing these sins or they will end up in HELL? Is this how we were saved?

Are our sins so much smaller than their sins that makes us Christians a better and more Godly people than they? Or is it 'God in us' that makes us Holy, or are you Holy because you are not gay, or because all your works are good and all your thoughts are perfect?

I witness to gays, and never speak against their Homosexual ways, and gays have a wide range of views about being gay. Many see themselves as being Christians, and they defend their Christianity before other gays.

I encourage Christian gays, and I bring the true Gospel of Jesus Christ to non-Christian gays, that they too may have eternal life. And i listen to them and I love them.

I simply share the gospel of Jesus Christ, and the The Laws of Christ, and the Love of Christ,and allow the seeds to have a chance to take root, and if any turn to God and accept the gospel, God will take it from there and He will give them the indwelling Holy Spirit WHOM will make in them the right changes in their life and in their very nature, that they may be enabled to naturally do the good that God created them to do. It sure is not my job to change them.

Holiness is not the absence of sin in our life, Holiness is the presence of God in our Life.

Arthur Biele

 2011/8/27 3:14Profile

Joined: 2009/12/4
Posts: 1860


The only sinner that will be saved is the repentant sinner. Brother Art I am curious have the homosexual Christians you know repented of homosexuality? If not, are they saved? A radical turn to God requires a radical Turn from Sin.

But my sins are far worse, if the Lord says lusting with your eyes is a sin and I had to repent of that sin, why then is homosexually an exception? This ofcourse being if you think they are saved yet still unrepented from homosexuality.

(disregard brother Art I misread your post my apologizes but I am still curious how you share the gospel with them) :)

Matthew Guldner

 2011/8/27 3:20Profile

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