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| THE CONSCIENCE | | I remember a while ago, someone asked me " How do you walk in the Spirit?" After thinking for a while it occurred to me that the only way I could think to answer was to tell them to obey their conscience. Here are the references I found in the concordance for conscience. [edited to remove concordance numbers, to confusing] Here is the link to it if you don't already have a online concordance. Of course reading the word of God and meditating on the truth is the way to inform our conscience. I believe the Holy Spirit is the still small voice that shows us and reveals what we need to see, that without seeing we cannot do the will of God. The Holy Spirit is the eyes of the soul, so to speak." Heb4:12For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Jesus told us that if we were not born again [of His Spirit] that we could not see the kingdom of heaven. In James 1: 23For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
24For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
25But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. The Holy Spirit leads us by the word of God and to walk in the light we need to know that word.
http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html[Sorry, it won't paste in a link] Here are the scriptures I found in the concordance:
occurs 31 times in 29 verses in the KJV Page 1 / 2 (Jhn 8:9 - Hbr 10:22)
Jhn 8:9 And they which heard [it], being convicted by [their own] conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, [even] unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. Act 23:1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said , Men [and] brethren , I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day. Act 24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and [toward] men. Rom 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness , and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another ;) Rom 9:1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not , my conscience also bearing me witness in 1 the Holy Ghost, Rom 13:5 Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject , not only for wrath , but also for conscience sake. 1Cr 8:7 Howbeit [there is] not in every man that knowledge : for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat [it] as a thing offered unto an idol ; and their conscience being weak is defiled . 1Cr 8:10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; 1Cr 8:12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. 1Cr 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, [that] eat , asking no question for conscience sake: 1Cr 10:27 If any of them that believe not bid you [to a feast], and ye be disposed to go ; whatsoever is set before you, eat , asking no question for conscience sake. 1Cr 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it , and for conscience sake: for the earth [is] the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: 1Cr 10:29 Conscience,I say,not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another [man's] conscience? 2Cr 1:12 For our rejoicing is this, the testimony of our conscience , that in simplicity and godly sincerity , not with fleshly wisdom , but by the grace of God, we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly to you-ward. 2Cr 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty , not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully ; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and [of] a good conscience, and [of] faith unfeigned: 1Ti 1:19 Holding faith, and a good conscience ; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck : 1Ti 3:9 Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience. 1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron ; 2Ti 1:3 I thank God, whom I serve from [my] forefathers with pure conscience , that without ceasing I have remembrance of thee in my prayers night and day; Tts 1:15 Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure ; but even their mind and conscience is defiled . Hbr 9:9 Which [was] a figure for the time then present , in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices , that could not make him that did the service perfect , as pertaining to the conscience; Hbr 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Hbr 10:2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. Hbr 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water .
(conscience) occurs 31 times in 29 verses in the KJV Page 2 / 2 (Hbr 13:18 - 1Pe 3:21)
Hbr 13:18 Pray for us : for we trust we have a good conscience, in all things willing to live honestly. 1Pe 2:19 For this [is] thankworthy , if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully. 1Pe 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you , as of evildoers , they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. 1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
_________________ Melody
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| 2007/6/1 10:59 | Profile | InTheLight Member

Joined: 2003/7/31 Posts: 2850 Phoenix, Arizona USA
| Re: THE CONSCIENCE | | Here is a link to a wonderful sermon by Zac Poonen about listening to conscience...
[url=https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=4252]A Clear Conscience - by Zac Poonen[/url]
Also, from a biography on George Mueller... For sixtynine years and ten months he[George Mueller] had been a very happy man. That he attributed to two things. He had maintained a good conscience, not wilfully going on in a course he knew to be contrary to the mind of God; he did not, of course, mean that he was perfect; he was poor, weak, and sinful. Secondly, he attributed it to his love of Holy Scripture. Of late rears his practice had been four times every year to read through the Scriptures, with application to his own heart, and with meditation; and that day he was a greater lover of God's Word than he was sixty-years ago. It was this, and maintaining a good conscience, that had given him all these years peace and joy in the Holy Ghost." In Christ,
Ron _________________ Ron Halverson
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| 2007/6/1 11:17 | Profile | lightwalker Member

Joined: 2007/4/27 Posts: 52 Missouri
| Re: | | Ron, I wish I could listen to that study you listed, but being on dial up it is jerky and takes forever, so I can only read the text messages. _________________ Melody
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| 2007/6/1 11:52 | Profile | livingfire Member

Joined: 2007/4/28 Posts: 12 Silver Spring, Maryland
| Re: THE CONSCIENCE | | How do you Walk in the Spirit? You do not walk in the Spirit. The Spirit walks in you. It infills you and guides you in your walk. When your conscience is pricked, you know that "you" are no longer completely walking in the Spirit, or, the Spirit groans within, knowing that your Self seeks to sin rather than to be guided and controlled by the Holy Spirit.
Walking in the Spirit simply means obeying God to the fullest, never making room for sin. The "agenbite of inwit," or "sting of conscience" gooses your Self to stop veering off the straight and narrow and you must once again aright the wheelbarrow of the body and let Brother Ass (you) focus once again your perhaps not so laser-like vision on God rather than on your impulses, your desires, your whims. [By the way, it is an honor to serve the Lord in all humility and obedience as Brother or Sister Ass.] _________________ Eugene
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| 2007/6/2 14:45 | Profile |
| Re: THE CONSCIENCE | | To bring a slightly different angle to this, is our human conscience reliable? Dare we walk solely according to its guidance any more?
I'm thinking of the wrong choice Adam made, to eat of the Tree of knowledge of good and evil. In other words to make his own moral choices and decisions instead of being wholly dependent on God's moment by moment instructions and guidance.
In doing so Adam of course gave himself into Satan's control, and Satan saw to it that mankind is no longer [i][b]able[/b][/i] to make right choices - even to do right according to what our damaged consciences say is right (as Paul speaks about in Romans 7).
One thing salvation does is to restore this [i]ability[/i] to obey God instead of self.
But we still have to constantly humble ourselves as little children, and accept that Father knows best", and do what He says instead of what seems good in our own eyes.
Blessings
Jeannette
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| 2007/6/2 17:03 | | lightwalker Member

Joined: 2007/4/27 Posts: 52 Missouri
| Re: | | Jeanette, when I said to obey your conscience I was talking about your informed conscience. Now where there is no law, sin is not imputed.But as we grow by the life of Christ in us[the word of God] we are now informed and as it says in Hebrews 4:11-13 11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. For God using the word through the spirit shows us how we should walk, it is then our choice whether to obey or refuse.
In James we read about a glass where we are shown our image. This is the Holy spirit, and the mercy of our Father, giving us the truth that we might choose that which is right. By the power of a resurrected life to walk in the spirit and not to obey the flesh.
_________________ Melody
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| 2007/6/3 11:28 | Profile |
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lightwalker wrote: Jeanette, when I said to obey your conscience I was talking about your informed conscience. Now where there is no law, sin is not imputed.But as we grow by the life of Christ in us[the word of God] we are now informed
Yes, I realise that, I wasn't contradicting anything you said, merely talking about conscience in general, as that was the title of the thread.
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and as it says in Hebrews 4:11-1311. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
12. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
13. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. For God using the word through the spirit shows us how we should walk, it is then our choice whether to obey or refuse.
In James we read about a glass where we are shown our image. This is the Holy spirit, and the mercy of our Father, giving us the truth that we might choose that which is right. By the power of a resurrected life to walk in the spirit and not to obey the flesh.
That is so true, yet it can take many years, even as Christians, to begin to know - really KNOW - the above scriptures in [i]experience[/i]. Our hearts can still deceive us, we can still turn away form the Mirror of the Spirit; we can still refuse through unbelief, to "enter into His rest". I speak from personal experience - especially of struggling with Hebrews 4 for many years (it is very unprofitable to "strive to stop striving", it just doesn't work!) But, bless the Lord He is beginning to get this "Sabbath rest" into my thick head, and heart, at last!
Even for a Christian, unless we are walking very, very closely with the Lord, obeying Him every moment, repenting if He reveals anything of sin in us, our heart can still deceive us. We can even be totally clear of any [i]awareness[/i] of sin whatsoever, yet still have a deceived conscience.
I'm not saying it is, but that it is possible. That's why we need to depend on Him every moment to keep us.New Covenant or no, the Psalmist's words are still relevant.
Psalm 19: [i][color=000066] 13 Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me! Then I shall be blameless, and innocent of great transgression. 14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer. [/color][/i]
Blessings
Jeannette |
| 2007/6/3 15:45 | |
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livingfire wrote: How do you Walk in the Spirit? You do not walk in the Spirit. The Spirit walks in you. It infills you and guides you in your walk. When your conscience is pricked, you know that "you" are no longer completely walking in the Spirit, or, the Spirit groans within, knowing that your Self seeks to sin rather than to be guided and controlled by the Holy Spirit.
Walking in the Spirit simply means obeying God to the fullest, never making room for sin. The "agenbite of inwit," or "sting of conscience" gooses your Self to stop veering off the straight and narrow and you must once again aright the wheelbarrow of the body and let Brother Ass (you) focus once again your perhaps not so laser-like vision on God rather than on your impulses, your desires, your whims. [By the way, it is an honor to serve the Lord in all humility and obedience as Brother or Sister Ass.]
AMEN! Right on, Bro. I would recognise that last turn of phrase anywhere! :-P
I love this: [i][b]"You do not walk in the Spirit. The Spirit walks in you"[/b][/i]
Thank you
Blessings
Jeannette |
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