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tjservant
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 Looking for good sermon(s) on modesty....

...any suggestions?


Thank you in advance. :-)


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TJ

 2007/4/14 0:04Profile
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 Re: Looking for good sermon(s) on modesty....

TJ,

Don't know of any sermons on the topic, so all anyone can do is think. And having 'thunked', I can say this on the matter:



The extent of how much body modesty there is has changed from generation to generation, from fashion mode to fashion mode.

But there are other issues of modesty that deal with how we control our minds.

Modesty of the eyes is to me, the most difficult one for men, particularly with all the female flesh being revealed currently.

Women have only a little trouble with it, despite the soft drink commercial. Can't remember whether it was Coke or Pepsi, but you women will know what I mean. We like looking at guys, but that doesn't drag us into and out of a bed with a complete stranger in three seconds or less.

Young, wild and free seems fine when you are fifteen. But when you get married, a wife doesn't want her man looking at other woman, for the moment he does, unless he has excellant control of his mind, he will strip whatever pieces of clothing off said female, and in another second, before he can think about what he is thinking about, he's already stepped onto greener pastures, due to a physical defect related to men's hormones. You'll probably have to train yourself not to look at women below the chin if you want to get close to your wife, much less your God. I don't actually know if a man can keep his mind from going where his eyes go.

Is that his fault? Partly. One, men encourage women who have great curves to reveal as much of them as possible. But after a few seconds, that male mind is off the display, and on to another one.

And generally speaking, when a man's wife dresses at the extreme of today's fashion, he's going to blow a gasket over it, because what she is then showing is particularly his to look at, and he doesn't want her showing it off. Hence the common male cry of outrage: "You are not wearing that in public!"

But when the women collude with the men to show off atractive flesh, you've got a problem. When women dress these days, a lot depends on what they are dressing for. In your teens, a young girl dresses mostly to impress other girls, and only secondly, to catch the male eye.

But with each added year between 12 and 25, women dress more to catch a guy's eye than to please their friends. And these days, the competition to catch the male eye is causing women to bare more and more flesh in public.

Somewhere around 25 or so, even the most outrageous single female has recogized that what she wears to work is going to have to be different than what she wears out to dinner.

Do I think women are baring too much flesh these days? Yes, I do.

Do I think men are encouraging them to? Yes, I do.

For despite trying to catch a man's eyes, wearing little more than a bikini to work is not a good idea. I don't think women should wear equivalent of a bikini out at night either, unless they want to be offered money for services.

Bikini's are great at the beach. At that place, there's so much flesh around, it get's boring. Bland. And hence, acceptable. But men, at the beach, you've got a real problem, and keeping your eyes to yourself is nigh impossible.

And don't forget, there is a whole industry built on flesh being showed that Christian women need to avoid, and Christian men need to discourage.

The best place to start is for all women is to wear a bit more, and strive for elegance, not the current fashion. Get a Neiman Marcus Catalog, and try not to scream at the prices.

The best place to start for an unmarried man is to not ask out any young women that aren't striving for elegance. If you don't know what elegance is, get a Neiman Marcus Catalog, and start getting used to the prices.

I won't tell you young men to keep your eyes to yourself. When you are unmarried that's between you and God. When you are married, that's between you and your wife.

Husband's and father's, keep your eyes to yourself, and, well, you've got the check book, or you're supposed to, and you have the responsibility to rein in your women, particularly if it's your daughter of 12.

Unmarried Mom's? Show a good example, and teach your daughter to be on the edge of fashion, striving for elegance. For in the end, elegance will beat out what's on TV anytime.

Was I fashionable in my day, since I am now a "woman of a certain age" and an evangelist?

Unfortunately, yes. I had no lack of men following me around, and at least four of them wanted to marry me. But I paid for it, until I got into my twenties. No one would take me seriously.

Then I dressed for success, New York style in California, and became successful. Yes, I had to work at it, for clothes are merely where you start in business. But great style helps. Slowly change over to Neiman Marcus from Walmart as soon as you can.

But when I married, it was my husband saying, "You are not wearing that in public!"




Is the above the sermon you are looking for? If not, write back about what modesty issues you are thinking of. If it's what you need, use it with my blessing. But if you're a guy in a pulpit, you'll have to say you got it from me, or they'll never take you seriously. And since I've written it, it will be on my website for this Sunday.

Blessings,


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 2007/4/14 2:45Profile
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[b]Biblical Apparel by Denny Kenaston[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13210

[b]Biblical Principles On The Headship Veiling by Denny Kenaston[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13206

[b]Don't give in to the Pressure by Compilations[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=15165

[b](Biblical Manhood) -evening banquet by Paul Washer[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13055

[b](Biblical Manhood) -morning brunch by Paul Washer[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13054

I am sure there are more sermons on modesty if you dig "deeper" into the index.


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 2007/4/14 3:30Profile
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Quote:

sermonindex wrote:
[b]Biblical Apparel by Denny Kenaston[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13210

[b]Biblical Principles On The Headship Veiling by Denny Kenaston[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13206

[b]Don't give in to the Pressure by Compilations[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=15165

[b](Biblical Manhood) -evening banquet by Paul Washer[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13055

[b](Biblical Manhood) -morning brunch by Paul Washer[/b]
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=13054

I am sure there are more sermons on modesty if you dig "deeper" into the index.



Wow, Greg!

You sure know your stuff!!!

Forrest


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 2007/4/14 4:18Profile
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 Re: Looking for good sermon(s) on modesty....

Greetings, brother!

Not sure if you mind going off SI in your search, but this sermon has REALLY helped me:

http://charityministries.org/tapeministry/detail.cfm?index=3745

(Biblical Principles Of Modest Dress, Dean Taylor, Charity Youth Bible School 2006)

This sermon teaches the principles of modesty without the legalistic slant that many may come across with... I was very encouraged by how Brother Dean taught on this sensitive issue: "It's something we do to because we want to please our Lord!" is something he repeats more than once!

Praise the Lord for His Son, Who has redeemed us through His blood!


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Ryan G.

 2007/4/14 8:41Profile
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 Re: modesty

Here is a wonderful sermon by CJ Mahaney (from Sovereign Grace Ministries) called the [b]Soul Of Modesty[/b].

http://www.therebelution.com/downloads/soul_of_modesty.mp3

Alex and Brett Harris (of The Rebelution) brothers of Joshua Harris, have conducted a Modesty Survey on their site. I thought it was very interesting. The modesty survey was answered by teen and young men.

http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/

In Him, Chanin


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 2007/4/14 9:25Profile
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http://store.reviveourhearts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=76

My mom listened to this, I didn't because she didn't want me to, but she said it was really good.

God bless,
Jordan


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HomeFree89 wrote:
http://store.reviveourhearts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=76

My mom listened to this, I didn't because she didn't want me to, but she said it was really good.

God bless,
Jordan



I echo Jordan's recommendation. This teaching is what I recommend on the topic. I appreciate Nancy's balanced and biblical approach.

You can download fifteen mp3 files (each is about 15 minutes I think), or order the whole series.

http://www.reviveourhearts.com/radio/roh/today.php?pid=971

 2007/4/14 21:29
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 Re: Looking for good sermon(s) on modesty....

Hi tjservant...

The message links provided by Greg (sermonindex) are great! Melody Green (the wife of Keith Green) wrote and article which found at [i]Last Days Ministries[/i]' website entitled "[url=http://www.lastdaysministries.org/articles/uncoveringthetruthaboutmodesty.html][b]Uncovering the Truth About Modesty[/b][/url]."

It is a wonderfully simple article that covers the topic from a very direct perspective without focusing on less certain doctrinal issues (such as head coverings, etc...).

I hope this helps!

:-)


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Christopher

 2007/4/14 22:07Profile
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 Re: Looking for good sermon(s) on modesty....

We Shall All Stand Before the Judgment Seat of Christ-David Wilkerson....
He doesn't spend a lot of time on modesty as he addresses other things, too, but what he says is powerful and will stay with you...


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