When I read Acts Chapter 4 I see the church has these attributes1) The working of signs and wonders2) Gladly enduring persecution3) A powerful prayer meeting where the Holy Spirit fell4) Believers giving away their possesionsI find it shocking that we can even refer to North American Evangelical Christianity as "the church".When i was lukewarm I used to watch a tv show called "The Simpsons", that sadly many professed believers probably still watch. In one episode Homer didnt want to donate his kidney to his dad so he made him an artifical one. It was a penny whistle glued to a pop can... our religoin as a whole is just as false and worthless.Run for your life from the teachings of the imposter harlot and the false jesus being preached.in Christ - Jim
I would like to add..... The church is not bad but the church needs revival.We must not forget that most churches have in them a remnant of believers.This remnant loves the Lord, and they belong to him..........There is a pitfall to watch out for;When a person receives personal revival there is a tendency to look down on the lukewarm brothers.Let the fire of the Holy Ghost within you convict them,and let their lukewarmness break your heart.You will inspire them to "come up higher"........I do know you are sickensd by the condition of the church and I am too,so we must interceed.But the church is not bad.It is awesome to see God "sweep" into a church and change EVERYTHING.Leadersship included!Intercession is key to revival.We must pray for revival........David
David-Again, I should have clarified between the lukewarm Church, that Christ loves and can revive, and the false system that calls itself the church. I hate babylon, the false harlot.If you look at babylon throughout scripture (from jeremiah to revelation) you will see that it is an imposter, an enemy of the true Church.The interesting thing to ask is if you would stand up for the Jehova Witnesses or Mormons... why then do we stand up for the baptists, nazarines, assemblies of God, etc when based on their fruit they do not hold the truth in rightousness either? I understand that on paper their theology is better, but they deny their doctrine by their actions. (A form of godliness that denies the power of God by actions).in Christ - Jim
I think that you will both be greatly fed by David Wilkerson's sermon, "A Call to Anguish." He talks about the conditions of God's people today and what we are to do about it. You can find it here at sermonindex.net. Look on the side columns to see if its there. Its an audio sermon, so you can also search for it. It will shake you. He preaches with the conviction of the HOLY GHOST all over him. I challenge everyone to listen to it. -Jennifer Grace
But the church is not bad
I guess the reason I am "gun shy" about that statement is because we have been to so so many churches and never found a home.I wish I had a church home.I have had short experiences of being in a church home and there is nothing like it.My mother lives in another city and she told me the churches shes been to were so dry she cant stand it......Anyway I do know what everyones talking about.Wish it were different!.....David
When I read Acts Chapter 4 I see the church has these attributes1) The working of signs and wonders2) Gladly enduring persecution3) A powerful prayer meeting where the Holy Spirit fell4) Believers giving away their possesions
If we are to be honest with ourselves, each other and God, then we can see the Church in the west is in a deplorable condition.I emphasis the Church in the west, because in non western nations, there is a big difference to the Christianity they practice to that in the west. Hence the persecution they suffer.We are not worth persecuting.The outworking of the Holy Spirit should be evident in the church.Instead we see apathy, laziness, worldliness, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, living in sin etc.Maybe you don't see that where you are, but I do.So to say the church isn't bad is, shall we say, an understatement.We need repentance deeply.If Christians want to repent, they have to forsake the sins they love so much.It's either you choose the sin, or you choose God, but not both.So which will it be?God bless.